***PRO-AM/COLLEGE/HS BASKETBALL/AAU PLAYERS CHIME IN..AND ASK THE REF***

Originally Posted by bigsupa

AFTER SHOWING THIS TO ONE OF MY SUPERVISOR'S HE SAID WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES...SO PRETTY MUCH THE GULLY WOULD HAVE CREEPED OUT.

I REMEMBER A CHIP GAME A WHILE BACK WHERE THE UNCLE OF A STAR PLAYER CAME OUT OF THE STANDS AFTER THE GAME AND KNOCKED A REF IN THE MOUTH CAUSING HIM TO LOSE TEETH. THE SAD PART WAS THE UNCLE WAS ANOTHER FELLOW REF AND HAS BEEN BLACK LISTED FROM EVERY OFFICIATING ANY SPORT ...EVER!

MOST OF US HAVE REGULAR JOBS...I KNOW AN MMA FIGHTER WHO REFS JUST FOR THE $$ AND SOME COPS AS EXTRA CASH SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH.

Trust me that specific ref would of been DESTROYED had he tried to defend himself.
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa

AFTER SHOWING THIS TO ONE OF MY SUPERVISOR'S HE SAID WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES...SO PRETTY MUCH THE GULLY WOULD HAVE CREEPED OUT.

I REMEMBER A CHIP GAME A WHILE BACK WHERE THE UNCLE OF A STAR PLAYER CAME OUT OF THE STANDS AFTER THE GAME AND KNOCKED A REF IN THE MOUTH CAUSING HIM TO LOSE TEETH. THE SAD PART WAS THE UNCLE WAS ANOTHER FELLOW REF AND HAS BEEN BLACK LISTED FROM EVERY OFFICIATING ANY SPORT ...EVER!

MOST OF US HAVE REGULAR JOBS...I KNOW AN MMA FIGHTER WHO REFS JUST FOR THE $$ AND SOME COPS AS EXTRA CASH SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH.

Trust me that specific ref would of been DESTROYED had he tried to defend himself.
 
ITS JANUARY...

SEASON IS GETTING HECTIC NOW...GAMES ARE MORE BACK TO BACK AND MEAN MORE AND MORE..

ANY ONE GOT SCENARIOS THEY NEED AN EXPLANATION ON?
 
ITS JANUARY...

SEASON IS GETTING HECTIC NOW...GAMES ARE MORE BACK TO BACK AND MEAN MORE AND MORE..

ANY ONE GOT SCENARIOS THEY NEED AN EXPLANATION ON?
 
Damn I meant to bring back this thread but I couldn't find it.

1. Can you admit to the idea of "make up" calls?

2. Have you ever had to give a TEAM a tech because of how their fans were acting?
 
Damn I meant to bring back this thread but I couldn't find it.

1. Can you admit to the idea of "make up" calls?

2. Have you ever had to give a TEAM a tech because of how their fans were acting?
 
Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
 
Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Damn I meant to bring back this thread but I couldn't find it.

1. Can you admit to the idea of "make up" calls?

2. Have you ever had to give a TEAM a tech because of how their fans were acting?

1. MAKE UP CALLS AS IN HOW?

2. NO I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T BUT YES THERE IS A POSSIBILITY A COACH..NOT A TEAM CAN GET ONE...IT WILL BE AN INDIRECT TO THE COACH NOT A DIRECT TECH TO THE COACH. LIKE PLAYERS 2 DIRECT TECHS TO A COACH AND THEY ARE TOSSED..BUT IF A COACH HAS A DIRECT TECH., THEN YOUR STAR PLAYER IS CALLED FOR A TRAVEL AND HIS PARENTS ARE CURSING AT ME FROM BEHIND THE BENCH AND ONLY AFTER WE HAVE TOLD YOU TO HANDLE THE CROWD IS WHEN I WILL TEE YOU UP...BUT ITS NOT YOUR 2ND DIRECT. ITS YOUR 1ST INDIRECT ONE MORE INDIRECT THEN YOU GO.

AS FAR AS CROWD CONTROL GOES WHEN I WALK INTO AN ARENA OR GYM 1ST THING I DO IS SEE WHO IS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY AND THE FACILITY IT COULD BE THE SCHOOL'S AD OR ARENA SECURITY SO ANY SITUATIONS OR PROBLEMS WITH THE FANS I GO OVER TO THAT PERSON IN CHARGE THEN POINT TO THE PERSON THAT'S ACTING A FOOL  AND SAY IF THIS PERSON DOESNT NOT CALM DOWN THEY HAVE TO LEAVE OR THE GAME IS FORFIETED 9/10 IT WORKS. THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE IT WAS THE 2 TEAMS..4 AT THE SCORERS TABLE AND THE 3 REFS AND JUST SECURITY. SO IT CAN HAPPEN...WE EJECTED THE ENTIRE GYM OUT NO FANS WERE ALLOWED BACK IN...TOOK LIKE 30MIN BUT FINALLY GAME WENT ON.
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Damn I meant to bring back this thread but I couldn't find it.

1. Can you admit to the idea of "make up" calls?

2. Have you ever had to give a TEAM a tech because of how their fans were acting?

1. MAKE UP CALLS AS IN HOW?

2. NO I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T BUT YES THERE IS A POSSIBILITY A COACH..NOT A TEAM CAN GET ONE...IT WILL BE AN INDIRECT TO THE COACH NOT A DIRECT TECH TO THE COACH. LIKE PLAYERS 2 DIRECT TECHS TO A COACH AND THEY ARE TOSSED..BUT IF A COACH HAS A DIRECT TECH., THEN YOUR STAR PLAYER IS CALLED FOR A TRAVEL AND HIS PARENTS ARE CURSING AT ME FROM BEHIND THE BENCH AND ONLY AFTER WE HAVE TOLD YOU TO HANDLE THE CROWD IS WHEN I WILL TEE YOU UP...BUT ITS NOT YOUR 2ND DIRECT. ITS YOUR 1ST INDIRECT ONE MORE INDIRECT THEN YOU GO.

AS FAR AS CROWD CONTROL GOES WHEN I WALK INTO AN ARENA OR GYM 1ST THING I DO IS SEE WHO IS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY AND THE FACILITY IT COULD BE THE SCHOOL'S AD OR ARENA SECURITY SO ANY SITUATIONS OR PROBLEMS WITH THE FANS I GO OVER TO THAT PERSON IN CHARGE THEN POINT TO THE PERSON THAT'S ACTING A FOOL  AND SAY IF THIS PERSON DOESNT NOT CALM DOWN THEY HAVE TO LEAVE OR THE GAME IS FORFIETED 9/10 IT WORKS. THERE HAVE BEEN SITUATIONS WHERE IT WAS THE 2 TEAMS..4 AT THE SCORERS TABLE AND THE 3 REFS AND JUST SECURITY. SO IT CAN HAPPEN...WE EJECTED THE ENTIRE GYM OUT NO FANS WERE ALLOWED BACK IN...TOOK LIKE 30MIN BUT FINALLY GAME WENT ON.
 
Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
 
Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
That's the type of make up call I think they are talking about. Not a make up call in the sense of calling a foul when the kid is wide open.

Do you ref any corporate league games in the city? or know any one that does?
 
Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
That's the type of make up call I think they are talking about. Not a make up call in the sense of calling a foul when the kid is wide open.

Do you ref any corporate league games in the city? or know any one that does?
 
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY

Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
That's the type of make up call I think they are talking about. Not a make up call in the sense of calling a foul when the kid is wide open.

Do you ref any corporate league games in the city? or know any one that does?
WASSUP LOS!!!

I KNOW A COUPLE OF GUYS WHO DO...I PERSONALLY DONT...THEY MONEY IS NOT WORTH THE HEADACHES...BESIDES MY SCHEDULE DURING THE SEASON IS TOO NUTS TO GO DO THOSE GAMES.
 
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY

Originally Posted by bigsupa

Originally Posted by Ecook0808

Yeah make up calls forsure...

Do u ever think u "owe" a team a call after missing something?

When I was playing NAIA I remember getting hacked and turning it over, the ref that didn't make the call admitted he missed it and "he got us"...
IN COLLEGE BALL WE TEND TO LET YOU GUYS TAKE A LIL HIT HERE N THERE IF YOU FINISH AND SCORE WE'LL KEEP THE GAME GOING...SO IF WE "KICK" A CALL AND WE TELL YOU WE GOT YOU..WE WONT MAKE UP A CALL BUT IF YOU GET A LIL TICKY TACK FOUL WE'LL CALL IT AND PROB GIVE U AN AND 1

YOU MUST HAVE RESPECTED THE REFS CUZ THATS WHO WE WOULD SAY THAT TO...ARROGANT PLAYERS GET NO REMORSE AND WE GO BY THE BOOK. REFFING IS MAINLY COMMON SENSE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE RULE BOOK!
That's the type of make up call I think they are talking about. Not a make up call in the sense of calling a foul when the kid is wide open.

Do you ref any corporate league games in the city? or know any one that does?
WASSUP LOS!!!

I KNOW A COUPLE OF GUYS WHO DO...I PERSONALLY DONT...THEY MONEY IS NOT WORTH THE HEADACHES...BESIDES MY SCHEDULE DURING THE SEASON IS TOO NUTS TO GO DO THOSE GAMES.
 
I had this situation where I fouled a guy hard on a fast break by going for his arms with my left hand, and (in my mind) to protect the player from taking a hard landing, wrapped my other arm around him to brace his fall.

The ref called me for a flagrant foul and his explanation was, "wrapping both arms around him was unnecessary". I tried to explain to him that I was trying to brace the player from taking a hard fall, but he stuck by his explanation.

1. Is this call justified and would you have called this a flagrant foul? If yes, then what should I have done? Just hack away at the arms and hope the other guy can brace himself (when IMO, this is more dangerous than what i did?)
 
I had this situation where I fouled a guy hard on a fast break by going for his arms with my left hand, and (in my mind) to protect the player from taking a hard landing, wrapped my other arm around him to brace his fall.

The ref called me for a flagrant foul and his explanation was, "wrapping both arms around him was unnecessary". I tried to explain to him that I was trying to brace the player from taking a hard fall, but he stuck by his explanation.

1. Is this call justified and would you have called this a flagrant foul? If yes, then what should I have done? Just hack away at the arms and hope the other guy can brace himself (when IMO, this is more dangerous than what i did?)
 
Originally Posted by mogzz04

I had this situation where I fouled a guy hard on a fast break by going for his arms with my left hand, and (in my mind) to protect the player from taking a hard landing, wrapped my other arm around him to brace his fall.

The ref called me for a flagrant foul and his explanation was, "wrapping both arms around him was unnecessary". I tried to explain to him that I was trying to brace the player from taking a hard fall, but he stuck by his explanation.

1. Is this call justified and would you have called this a flagrant foul? If yes, then what should I have done? Just hack away at the arms and hope the other guy can brace himself (when IMO, this is more dangerous than what i did?)

WERE YOU EJECTED FROM THE GAME RIGHT AFTER? IF NOT YOU GOT HIT WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOU;..NOT A FLAGRANT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INTENTIONAL FOUL SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS CALL...IF HE WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT CALL. IF I SEE THAT YOU ARE MAKING A SURE ATTEMPT TO SWIPE THE BALL THEN I WOULD HAVE JUST GONE WITH THE FOUL. SOME GUYS JUST DON'T USE THEIR JUDGMENT AND AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME ITS AN INTENTIONAL FOUL AND DON'T USE COMMON SENSE.

AUTOMATIC INTENTIONALS ARE:
* 2 HANDS PUSH FROM BEHIND
* GRABBING A JERSEY
* HARD CONTACT ON A SHOOTER WITHOUT INTENT OF BLOCKING BALL
* GRABBING PLAYER WITHOUT LETTING HIM MOVE (BEAR HUG)

ONLY ADVICE I HAVE FOR YOU IS UNLESS ITS A WEAK FREE THROW SHOOTER JUST LET HIM SCORE. YOU WOULD RATHER LOSE 2 PTS RATHER THAN 8...2PT GOAL IF BALL GOES IN, 2 FREE THROWS THEY GET THE BALL BACK FOR THE INTENTIONAL AND A POSSIBILITY FOR A 3PT GOAL AND 1...YES IT SEEN IT HAPPEN.
 
Originally Posted by mogzz04

I had this situation where I fouled a guy hard on a fast break by going for his arms with my left hand, and (in my mind) to protect the player from taking a hard landing, wrapped my other arm around him to brace his fall.

The ref called me for a flagrant foul and his explanation was, "wrapping both arms around him was unnecessary". I tried to explain to him that I was trying to brace the player from taking a hard fall, but he stuck by his explanation.

1. Is this call justified and would you have called this a flagrant foul? If yes, then what should I have done? Just hack away at the arms and hope the other guy can brace himself (when IMO, this is more dangerous than what i did?)

WERE YOU EJECTED FROM THE GAME RIGHT AFTER? IF NOT YOU GOT HIT WITH AN INTENTIONAL FOU;..NOT A FLAGRANT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INTENTIONAL FOUL SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS CALL...IF HE WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT CALL. IF I SEE THAT YOU ARE MAKING A SURE ATTEMPT TO SWIPE THE BALL THEN I WOULD HAVE JUST GONE WITH THE FOUL. SOME GUYS JUST DON'T USE THEIR JUDGMENT AND AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME ITS AN INTENTIONAL FOUL AND DON'T USE COMMON SENSE.

AUTOMATIC INTENTIONALS ARE:
* 2 HANDS PUSH FROM BEHIND
* GRABBING A JERSEY
* HARD CONTACT ON A SHOOTER WITHOUT INTENT OF BLOCKING BALL
* GRABBING PLAYER WITHOUT LETTING HIM MOVE (BEAR HUG)

ONLY ADVICE I HAVE FOR YOU IS UNLESS ITS A WEAK FREE THROW SHOOTER JUST LET HIM SCORE. YOU WOULD RATHER LOSE 2 PTS RATHER THAN 8...2PT GOAL IF BALL GOES IN, 2 FREE THROWS THEY GET THE BALL BACK FOR THE INTENTIONAL AND A POSSIBILITY FOR A 3PT GOAL AND 1...YES IT SEEN IT HAPPEN.
 
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I WILL BE WORKING THAT GAME.

ITS ON CHANNEL SNY.
 
GUYS MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET PHYSICALS...MONDAY NIGHT AT MY GAME A DUDE JUST FELL OVER AND DIED ON THE COURT...IT WAS THE MOST SCARIEST ISSSH I HAVE SEEN ON A COURT.

I HEARD HE CAUGHT A HEART ATTACK AND DIED INSTANTLY...

MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY...I HEARD HE HAD A NEWBORN BABY.
 
GUYS MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET PHYSICALS...MONDAY NIGHT AT MY GAME A DUDE JUST FELL OVER AND DIED ON THE COURT...IT WAS THE MOST SCARIEST ISSSH I HAVE SEEN ON A COURT.

I HEARD HE CAUGHT A HEART ATTACK AND DIED INSTANTLY...

MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY...I HEARD HE HAD A NEWBORN BABY.
 
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