Official PC thread.

I can get a free copy from MSDN but I really don't feel like backing up all of my stuff and restoring it. So I'm just sticking with 7 for a while
 
I've already racked up 114 hours on dark souls, to go with my 108 on ps3.
 
anybody know of any site that have an intro on how to build your own PC. I'm a little lost as where to start. Not sure if I should just upgrade my existing dell or start from scratch...
 
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^^^thanks, definitely will check out both. I'm leaning towards upgrading my current Dell PC since its only 2 1/2 yrs old and it needs a little performance boost
 
^^^thanks, definitely will check out both. I'm leaning towards upgrading my current Dell PC since its only 2 1/2 yrs old and it needs a little performance boost

definitely.

I built my pc 5 years ago.

And I refuse to build another pc until my current one keels over and dies..

:smokin
 
anybody know of any site that have an intro on how to build your own PC. I'm a little lost as where to start. Not sure if I should just upgrade my existing dell or start from scratch...
I'll steer you in the right direction...

The most important thing you want to consider in your motherboard, power supply, expandable memory and processor. I built my PC 3 years ago and it's still a MONSTER, with minor upgrades to memory and power.

"Micro Center" if you don't have one nearby then cop online, you may find cheaper parts on Amazon, I've copped parts for 2 cents before.


Your shell is important too, you want one that's gonna be able to upgrade with your motherboard.


If you're a gamer or do video or graphic design then you're gonna need a premium graphics card, Raedeon is pretty cool.


If you're into BIG hard drives you'll want a board with copper conductors... GIgabyte makes reliable boards with huge expandable memory and SATA ports.


There isn't one site you can go to, PC's are tailored to your needs, so you kind of have to feel it out, trial and error. It's a fun journey.
 
I'll steer you in the right direction...


The most important thing you want to consider in your motherboard, power supply, expandable memory and processor. I built my PC 3 years ago and it's still a MONSTER, with minor upgrades to memory and power.


"Micro Center" if you don't have one nearby then cop online, you may find cheaper parts on Amazon, I've copped parts for 2 cents before.



Your shell is important too, you want one that's gonna be able to upgrade with your motherboard.



If you're a gamer or do video or graphic design then you're gonna need a premium graphics card, Raedeon NVIDIA is pretty cool.



If you're into BIG hard drives you'll want a board with copper conductors... GIgabyte makes reliable boards with huge expandable memory and SATA ports.



There isn't one site you can go to, PC's are tailored to your needs, so you kind of have to feel it out, trial and error. It's a fun journey.
Fix'd.
 

Radeon cards are top dog right now especially after the newest drivers were released. Add to the fact they are not all voltage locked like nvidia cards. This coming from someone who has used nvidia mostly in my pc history. They are also cheaper. I do expect nvidia to respond with new drivers pretty soon though. They have to.

I saw that someone recommending a 800D as a case. If you're not going to watercool, dont bother with it. Air flow is not so good in that case. Look at a Switch 810 or Storm Trooper/Stryker.
 
Radeon cards are top dog right now especially after the newest drivers were released. Add to the fact they are not all voltage locked like nvidia cards. This coming from someone who has used nvidia mostly in my pc history. They are also cheaper. I do expect nvidia to respond with new drivers pretty soon though. They have to.
I saw that someone recommending a 800D as a case. If you're not going to watercool, dont bother with it. Air flow is not so good in that case. Look at a Switch 810 or Storm Trooper/Stryker.
Yeah, Radeon has better prices then Nvidia at the moment. You can't go wrong with either though.


Taken from Tom's Hardware.
[table][tr][th=""]Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart[/th][/tr][tr][th=""]GeForce[/th][th=""]Radeon[/th][th=""]Intel[/th][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 690[/td][td] [/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 590[/td][td]Discrete: HD 6990, 7970 GHz Ed.[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 680[/td][td]Discrete: HD 7970[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 670[/td][td]Discrete: HD 5970, 7950[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 580, 660 Ti[/td][td]Discrete: HD 7870[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 295, 480, 570, 660
Go (mobile): 680M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 4870 X2, 6970, 7850
Mobility: 7970M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 470, 560 Ti, 560 Ti 448 Core[/td][td]Discrete: HD 4850 X2, HD 5870, HD 6950
Mobility: 7950M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 560, 650 Ti
Go (mobile): 580M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 5850, HD 6870 
Mobility: 6990M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 9800 GX2, 285, 460 256-bit, 465
Go (mobile): 675M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 6850, HD 7770
Mobility: 6900M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: GTX 260, 275, 280, 460 192-bit, 460 SE, 550 Ti, 560 SE, 650
Go (mobile): 570M, 670M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 4870, 5770, 4890, 5830, 6770,  6790, 7750
Mobility: HD 5870, 6800M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250, GTS 450 
Go (mobile): 560M, 660M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 3870 X2, 4850, 5750, 6750
Mobility: HD 4850, 5850, 7870M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 GTX, 8800 GTS 512 MB, GT 545 (GDDR5)
Go (mobile): GTX 280M, 285M, 555M (GDDR5)[/td][td]Discrete: HD 4770
Mobility: HD 4860, 7770M, 7850M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT, GT 545 (DDR3), GT 640 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): 9800M GTX, GTX 260M (112), GTS 360M (GDDR5), 555M (DDR3)[/td][td]Discrete: HD 4830, HD 5670, HD 6670 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 5770, HD 5750, 6600M/6700M (GDDR5), 7750M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, GT 240 (GDDR5)
Go (mobile): 9800M GTS, GTX 160M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 2900 XT, HD 3870, HD 5570 (GDDR5), HD 6570 (GDDR5)
Mobility: 6500M (GDDR5), 6600M/6700M (DDR3), 7730M[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, GT 240 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): GTX 260M (96), GTS 150M, GTS 360M (DDR3)[/td][td]Discrete: HD 3850 512 MB, HD 4670, HD 5570 (DDR3), HD 6570 (DDR3), HD 6670 (DDR3)
Mobility: HD 3870, HD 5730, HD 5650, 6500M (DDR3)[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 8800 GT 256 MB, 8800 GTS 320 MB, GT 440 GDDR5, GT 630 GDDR5
Go (mobile): 8800M[/td][td]Discrete: HD 2900 PRO, HD 3850 256 MB, 5550 (GDDR5)
Mobility: HD 3850[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 7950 GX2, GT 440 DDR3, GT 630 DDR3[/td][td]Discrete: X1950 XTX, HD 4650 (DDR3), 5550 (DDR3)[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 7800 GTX 512, 7900 GTO, 7900 GTX, GT 430, GT 530
Go (mobile): 550M[/td][td]Discrete: X1900 XT, X1950 XT, X1900 XTX[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 7800 GTX, 7900 GT, 7950 G, GT 220 (DDR3)
Go (mobile): 525M, 540M[/td][td]Discrete: X1800 XT, X1900 AIW, X1900 GT, X1950 PRO, HD 2900 GT, HD 5550 (DDR2)[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 7800 GT, 7900 GS, 8600 GTS, 9500 GT (GDDR3), GT 220 (DDR2)
Go (mobile): 7950 GTX[/td][td]Discrete: X1800 XL, X1950 GT, HD 4650 (DDR2), HD 6450
Mobility: X1800 XT, HD 4650, HD 5165, 6400M
Integrated: 6620G, 6550D[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 7800 GS, 8600 GS, 8600 GT (GDDR3), 9500 GT (DDR2) 
Go (mobile): 7800 GTX, 7900 GTX[/td][td]Discrete: X800 XT (& PE), X850 XT (& PE), X1650 XT, X1800 GTO, HD 2600 XT, HD 3650 (DDR3), HD 3670
Mobility: X1900, 3670 
Integrated: 6520G, 6530D[/td][td]Integrated: Intel HD Graphics 4000[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 6800 GT, 6800 GS (PCIe), 8600 GT (DDR2), GT 520
Go (mobile): 7800, Go 7900 GS, 520M, 520MX[/td][td]Discrete: X800 XL, X800 GTO2/GTO16, HD 2600 PRO, HD 3650 (DDR2), 
Mobility: X800 XT, HD 2600 XT, 3650 
Integrated: 6410D, 6480G[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 6800 GS (AGP)
Go (mobile): 6800 Ultra, 7600 GT, 8600M GT, 8700M GT, 410M[/td][td]Discrete: X800 GTO 256 MB, X800 PRO, X850 PRO, X1650 GT
Mobility: HD 2600 
Integrated: 6370D, 6380G[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 6800, 7300 GT GDDR3, 7600 GS, 8600M GS 
Go (mobile): 6800, 7700[/td][td]Discrete: X800, X800 GTO 128 MB, X1600 XT, X1650 PRO
Mobility: X1800, HD 5145, HD 5470 (GDDR5)[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 6600 GT, 6800LE, 6800 XT, 7300 GT (DDR2), 8500 GT, 9400 GT 
Go (mobile): 7600 (128-bit)[/td][td]Discrete: 9800 XT, X700 PRO, X800 GT, X800 SE, X1300 XT, X1600 PRO, HD 2400 XT, HD 4350, HD 4550, HD 5450
Mobility: X800, 3470, HD 5470 (DDR3), HD 5450, HD 5430, 6300M
Integrated: HD 6310, HD 6320[/td][td]Integrated: Intel HD Graphics 3000[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: FX 5900, FX 5900 Ultra, FX 5950 Ultra, 6600 (128-bit)
Go (mobile): 6800 (128-bit)
Integrated: 9300, 9400[/td][td]Discrete: 9700, 9700 PRO, 9800, 9800 PRO, X700, X1300 PRO, X1550, HD 2400 PRO
Mobility: X1450, X1600, X1700, 2400 XT, X2500, 3450
Integrated: HD 3200, HD 3300, HD 4200, HD 4250, HD 4290, HD 6250, HD 6290 [/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900 XT
Go (mobile): 6600, Go 7600 (64-bit)[/td][td]Discrete: 9500 PRO, 9600 XT, 9800 PRO (128-bit), X600 XT, X1050 (128-bit)
Mobility: 9800, X700, X1350, X1400, X2300, HD 2400[/td][td]Integrated: Intel HD Graphics (Core i5-6x1), 2000[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 4 Ti 4600, 4 Ti 4800, FX 5700 Ultra, 6200, 8300, 8400 G, G 210, G 310
Go (mobile): 315M[/td][td]Discrete: 9600 PRO, 9800 LE, X600 PRO, HD 2300
Mobility: 9700 (128-bit), X600, X1300
Integrated: Xpress 1250[/td][td]Integrated: Intel HD Graphics (Core i3 5x0, Core i5-6x0)[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 4 Ti4200, 4 Ti4400, 4 Ti4800 SE, FX 5600 Ultra, FX 5700, 6600 (64-bit), 7300 GS, 8400M GS, 9300M G, 9300M GS[/td][td]Discrete: 9500, 9550, 9600, X300, X1050 (64-bit) 
Mobility: 9600[/td][td]Integrated: Intel HD Graphics (Pentium G)[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 3 Ti500, FX 5200 Ultra, FX 5600, FX 5700 LE, 6200 TC, 6600 LE, 7200 GS, 7300 LE
Go (mobile): 5700, 8200M, 9200M GS, 9100
Integrated: 8200, 8300[/td][td]Discrete: 8500, 9100, 9000 PRO, 9600 LE, X300 SE, X1150
Mobility 9700 (64-bit)[/td][td]Integrated: GMA X4500[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 3, 3 Ti200, FX 5200 (128-bit), FX 5500, 
Go (mobile): 5600, 6200, 6400, 7200, 7300, 7400 (64-bit)[/td][td]Discrete: 9000, 9200, 9250
Mobility: 9600 (64-bit), X300[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: FX 5200 (64 bit)
Go (mobile): 7200, 7400 (32-bit)
Integrated: 6100, 6150, 7025, 7050[/td][td]Discrete: 9200 SE
Integrated: Xpress 200M, Xpress 1000, Xpress 1150[/td][td]Integrated: GMA X3000, X3100, X3500[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 2 GTS, 4 MX 440, 2 Ultra, 2 Ti, 2 Ti 200[/td][td]Discrete: 7500[/td][td]Integrated: GMA 3000, 3100[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: 256, 2 MX 200, 4 MX 420, 2 MX 400[/td][td]Discrete: SDR, LE, DDR, 7000, 7200[/td][td]Integrated: GMA 500, 900, 950[/td][/tr][tr][td]Discrete: Nvidia TNT[/td][td]Discrete: Rage 128[/td][td]Discrete: Intel 740[/td][/tr][/table]
There you have it folks; the best cards  for the money this month. Now all that’s left to do is to find and purchase them.

Don’t worry too much about which brand you choose, because all of the cards out there are close to Nvidia’s and ATI’s reference designs. Just pay attention to price, warranty, and the manufacturer’s reputation for honoring the warranty if something goes wrong.

Also remember that the stores don’t follow this list. Things will change over the course of the month and you’ll probably have to adapt your buying strategy to deal with fluctuating prices. Good luck!
 
Thanks guys. I know this is probably a dumb question, but is upgrading my current Dell Inspiron setup possible, as far as the motherboard, processor, graphics card goes, It's not slow by any means but I know it can be a lot better. My windows index is like a 3.4. Other than a graphics card where would I look to upgrade if I were going to do some gaming. I have 3.00 GB memory and a Pentium Dual-Core CPI E5300 @ 2.60GHz processor
 
best thing you can do is for general improvement is to get an ssd. Makes a world of difference.
however I wouldn't waste any money on that current system if you plan on gaming. save up for a new build & name throw in a ssd.
 
Thanks guys. I know this is probably a dumb question, but is upgrading my current Dell Inspiron setup possible, as far as the motherboard, processor, graphics card goes, It's not slow by any means but I know it can be a lot better. My windows index is like a 3.4. Other than a graphics card where would I look to upgrade if I were going to do some gaming. I have 3.00 GB memory and a Pentium Dual-Core CPI E5300 @ 2.60GHz processor
you could increase the memory from 3g to 6 (memory is cheap ~$30-60)? I am guessing your machine could handle that, you can quickly check this by searching your inspiron model and looking for a max memory.

also if you are running windows, select a basic display mode...it helps in some cases.
 
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I can get a free copy from MSDN but I really don't feel like backing up all of my stuff and restoring it. So I'm just sticking with 7 for a while

Really itching to reformat my rig soon. Some software install messed up my files. :smh: Not sure if I'll take the plunge with Windows 8 right away. I'd say I'll give it a while before I do so.

Radeon cards are top dog right now especially after the newest drivers were released. Add to the fact they are not all voltage locked like nvidia cards. This coming from someone who has used nvidia mostly in my pc history. They are also cheaper. I do expect nvidia to respond with new drivers pretty soon though. They have to.
I saw that someone recommending a 800D as a case. If you're not going to watercool, dont bother with it. Air flow is not so good in that case. Look at a Switch 810 or Storm Trooper/Stryker.

NVIDIA's a @#$ for voltage-locking GPUs. I'm only biased towards them since I've had unfortunately terrible experience with ATi and their drivers. :smh: ATi/AMD definitely offers more value for money, though.

Yeah, if you're looking for a good tower, the NZXT Switch 810 is hard to beat. Lots of room for watercooling in that case, but I don't like the fact that it has a lot of plastic. The CM Storm Trooper/Stryker is definitely a good choice as well. The handle is a big plus, if you go to LANs, or move your rig around a lot. Can't go wrong with either, to be honest. Look into the NZXT Phantom as well. It comes in two sizes and is much more affordable than the aforementioned two. Simply put, you have to be certain which direction you would want your build to go in, and just purchase what case you need to move forward in that direction. A little headroom can definitely be appreciated in planning. Heck, I thought I was happy with a Cooler Master Elite 430 (a small mid-tower), but I got rid of that in less than a year and got a Cooler Master Cosmos II (which is larger). Definitely much easier tinkering with the rig and hiding all those wires. :lol:

best thing you can do is for general improvement is to get an ssd. Makes a world of difference.
however I wouldn't waste any money on that current system if you plan on gaming. save up for a new build & name throw in a ssd.
This. What do you plan on using the rig for by the way? :nerd:
 
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I really just wanted to upgrade the performance and do some light gaming, nothing really more than fifa, pes and some 2K. I really didnt want to have to build a computer from the ground up but I might start saving if thats wats gonna give me the best performance.
 
CPU finally came in.

:smokin

got that thang installed in about 20 mins since I was a little rusty.:lol:

cleaning the thermal paste off the heatsink and old cpu was really what took the longest.

going from a 2.2 ghz single core to a 2.4 dual core made a world of difference.

next upgrades for me are to buy an ssd and 1gb more ram.
 
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CPU finally came in.

:smokin

got that thang installed in about 20 mins since I was a little rusty.:lol:

cleaning the thermal paste off the heatsink and old cpu was really what took the longest.

going from a 2.2 ghz single core to a 2.4 dual core made a world of difference.

next upgrades for me are to buy an ssd and 1gb more ram.

srs?

& rockstar can go **** themselves for screwing pc gamers once again.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/gta-next/1226536p1.html
 
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i guess my journey to my perfect rig starts on BF...
going to cop me a 2-3 tera hd (recommend me brands please)
depending if it's on sale cpu processor i5
case (i'm looking at Obsidian Series[emoji]174[/emoji] 650D Mid-Tower Case)
and prolly a really strong/powerful power supply (recommendations appreciated :))
 
i guess my journey to my perfect rig starts on BF...
going to cop me a 2-3 tera hd (recommend me brands please)
depending if it's on sale cpu processor i5
case (i'm looking at Obsidian Series[emoji]174[/emoji] 650D Mid-Tower Case)
and prolly a really strong/powerful power supply (recommendations appreciated :))

HDD: Western Digital or Seagate
GET A BOOT SSD and Install BF3 on it. At least 128GB... preferrably 256GB. Load times are much more bearable. You will thank me.
Processor: i5 3570K should last you a long while.
Case: Good choice on the 650D :smokin Silverstone makes good cases as well.
PSU: Output depends on how many components you plan on hooking up to the rig. At least 750W should be enough for an SLI/Crossfire setup. The new Platinum rated ones are awesome. Corsair AX or Seasonic. I use a Seasonic P-1000 (1000W) if that helps.



Really tempted to do a fresh install on my rig. Might as well upgrade to Windows 8, as the System Builder edition's only $99 on Amazon. Would save more time than having to reinstall Win 7 and then upgrade to Win 8 when something goes wrong. Any ideas on how long the introductory price offer lasts? I'm keen on purchasing one after this month's credit card cut-off date, so I don't have to pay for it until December. :lol: Looking to cop a new USB 3.0 External drive to backup my files before the fresh install, too.
 
I think it's Jan 31st (that's when the other offers end :\ )
couldn't you just get the upgrade copy for $40 & do a clean install from it?
 
^ Oh. Great.

Well, I just borrowed this copy from a friend. Lol :tongue: Might as well go get my own copy so I can do clean installs when something gets effed up again.
 
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