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I mean, they are still living things, right?
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i dont think they got a nervous system or anything like that though nerd.gif
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They don't have a nervous system
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I'm no biologist but I don't think plants have nervous systems.
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No.
They respond to certain things though.
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regardless of the lack of a nervous system if you take a razor blade to a (smallish) plant it will react to that similar to how we would to being cut open...albeit much slower
post #8 of 50
I think so... some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things...

Try arguing with a vegetarian that they are killing/hurting plants...
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also not a biologist, but wouldnt a plant need a brain to process the feeling of pain?
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I dont think so.....


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post #11 of 50
Plants can "show" pain. For example if you give your plant too much nutrients it will show nute burn on its leaves.
post #12 of 50
Plants do not have a "brain" which is what processes "pain"...they aren't sentient creatures like human either, nor feel pain like animals.

They have foliage and other parts that are meant to die. Fruit, vegetables and grains are meant to fall off and die to "spread seed".

 
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We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:

What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 
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Originally Posted by Method Man

We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:

What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 
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post #16 of 50
OP wat u smokin on right now?
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some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 
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Originally Posted by Method Man

We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:

What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 
feel things and feel pain are two different things
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Originally Posted by Method Man

We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:



What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 

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post #20 of 50
are you trying to be a meatetarian, OP?.. i hear its the latest hipster craze. 
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Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Method Man

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 

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post #22 of 50
7 11 with automatic sliding doors? Sort of want.
post #23 of 50
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Originally Posted by Method Man


some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 

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feel things and feel pain are two different things

... yet his response to the topic question, "do you think plants can feel pain," was "i think so."  
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Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Method Man

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 

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post #27 of 50
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Originally Posted by Method Man

We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:

What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 


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post #28 of 50
Idk about pain but plants 'can think and remember'.

Read more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10598926
post #29 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Method Man

We could talk about their lack of central nervous systems, nociceptors, etc. but let me just ask this:

What is the evolutionary benefit of pain for an inherently immobile life form?  In sentient creatures, pain avoidance promotes self-preservation.  How would a pain-sensing plant be more likely to survive and reproduce than a plant that's incapable of feeling pain?

some plants will close up when you try to touch them so I think they can feel things... 


By your logic, the automatic sliding door in front of your local 7-11 feels pain. 

The automatic sliding door in front of my local 7-11 is not a living thing though...

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post #30 of 50
I'd like to say no due to a  lack of a CNS. I'm not a plant so I'm not sure whether or not they have ways of "perceiving" damaging chemical and physical stimuli that is somewhat equivalent to pain in animals. Plants are not stagnant creatures they have ways of sensing different chemotactic(water, moisture, nutrients) and physical (sun) stimuli and growing toward them and away from damaging ones. But like I pointed out I doubt this is perceived in the same way a human being responds to a burning stove using their pain withdrawal reflex due to their relative lack of motility a pain that severe would not be evolutionarily beneficial as meth pointed out.


A better question would be whether or not plants "feel" or "sense" anything, it doesn't have to be the equivalent of the sensations we perceive as animals
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