Is the option coming back/ already back in style?

martin - YES, an offense that relies that heavily on one person is the future of college football. i'm not getting carried away when I say 90% of teamswill be running this. Just look at the high school level right now. More and more teams will be adapting the spread each year (ie michigan, auburn). Having amobile quarterback nowadays isn't just a luxury, it will become a necessity in college football. When your qb is a threat to run on every play, it puts thedefense at a major disadvantage.
 
It's not that it *relies* on a certain player, but when a certain player knows how to run the offense almost flawlessly it's nearly impossible to stop. I'm not saying it's unstoppable by any means (see Oregon Ducks after Dennis Dixon went down), but it's coming back in style because certain players / teams can make it very, very effective.


Yeah, the personnel make the system. Yes, Dennis Dixon was the prototypical spread/zone-read option quarterback and when he got injured, the team sufferedbecause neither the backup QB's just couldn't execute as flawlessly as Dixon did. As far as I'm concerned, when Oregon was healthy, they only teamthat could beat them was themselves with turnovers (i.e. Cal game).

This is the problem that some Michigan fans are seeing with Rich Rod becoming the coach. Michigan, for the time being, doesn't have spread offense playersat some positions. But once you start getting the players with the type of talent that is needed to execute the offense, then you're golden.
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that is plain foolishness. YOU will NEVER EVER see 90% of collegefootball running the spread option. just like you didnt see 90% of colleges running the wishbone and option attack in the 80s & 90s when that offense wasstill flourishing.


The Spread Option is fools gold. It looks good and flashy until you play a team thats willing to bust that QB in the mouth every time.
Perriloux couldnt do %*%! vs UT cuz he was gettin his face pushed in. and When Pat Whtie was in the game vs Pitt he was getting hammered. U see at the end, on4th down, when the option for the QB run was available to pick up the 1st down, White handed it off, he wanted no parts of them hits.


VY didnt run that offense nearly as effectively vs tough Defensive teams. He did most of his damage on called passing plays that he just happened to scramble.

If you base your entire offense on the spread option, you will not end the season with a healthy QB (see Tim Tebow, Pat White & Dennis Dixon).
the same way defensive coaches caught up with Steve Spurriers "unstoppable" air attack, they will catch up with the spread (its already happening) .And like every other offensive cycle, it will come to an end, the same way the run n shoot did, the same way the wishbone did, and the same way the wing tveeroffense did.


This is the problem that some Michigan fans are seeing with Rich Rod becoming the coach. Michigan, for the time being, doesn't have spread offense players at some positions. But once you start getting the players with the type of talent that is needed to execute the offense, then you're golden.


Once again, RichRod is more then an option attack Coach. Look up his numbers at Tulane, a passing team.
He changed his approach to match his personell at WVU.

As far as I'm concerned, when Oregon was healthy, they only team that could beat them was themselves with turnovers (i.e. Cal game).



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@ Dr Funk. all of your replies in any college football thread are all" Pro Oregon related replies"
we see the avy and the Sig, we know you support Oregon.
wasnt it just last season yall were cursing Dennis Dixon's name, now he's DENNIS ALMIGHTY - the perfect Spread Option QB.
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Yes, that team could run it down everyone's throat.
They executed as well as anyone regardless of scheme.
Personell > Scheme everyday, all day

remember that.
 
i tried to tell these dudes, gunna
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like i said, get your ends off the edge to punk the QB and that offense is as dead as oregon's season
 
Well, that leads into my opinion.

I still think it can be done well at a team with the right players

i'm talkin option, not the spread crap
 
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i think it can work as a trick type of play every now and then, but once defenses know it's coming regularly, its gonna get blown up every time. NFL ends and olb's will shade outside and work their way in.

the jets caught us off guard once and ripped a decent gain, but every other time, our def got to the qb or rb in the backfield. their only gains came because of missed tackles. but it was pretty useless.
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I thought we were talking about college? I know the option gets blown up in the league... them dudes are all professionals.
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whoops...i get an L for not reading the thread more closely before posting
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Option works if you have the correct personnel i.e. Tommy Frazier, Scott Frost. It isn't that hard to defend though. It's all about the first dude tothe ball putting a hit on the QB even if he pitches and having a spy on the HB at all times.
 
gunna - funk is right, no one was stopping that offense.

weren't the wishbone and option predominantly run? the spread option is like running the wishbone out of a shotgun formation with a passing attack.
 
and as I recall in that cal game, that Option did NOT do Cal in, it was Dixon's passing that got them the lead, and in turn his INTs that did the Ducks in.
 
What I think people misunderstand about the spread-option, is that it doesn't have to be entirely based on the running game. Obviously if you have goodrunning backs, you're going to use them to the fullest of their abilities. If the run works, of course the coaches are going to rely on the running game,whereas if the passing game is being effective, the coaches will lean on the arm of the quarterback.

The spread is designed to distance the players across the field, creating gaps in coverage for the defense. If you watch any film from West Virginia, Oregon,Florida, App. State, Mizzou, you'll see how it works. Dixon, Edwards, Tebow, White, Daniels, all have different elements to their offense. Which in turn,bring different looks to the team's offense.

They just did a thing about it on College Football Live and pointed out some great things. This offense is consistently evolving. And as long as it works, Idon't see why anybody wouldn't continue to use it.

And sure, I'll praise Oregon, if you watched any of their earlier games this year, you'll know how effective the offense was. If me being a fan of theteam causes you to discount what they did, well sorry if that's the case.

What I noticed out of other options is that:

1. Tebow was so effective as a passer, because he was the main rushing threat. When the guy who slings the football to the receivers is also the primaryrusher, then you have to account for both sides of that player.

2. When you have Pat White, Steve Slaton, and Noel Devine, it's obvious that the strength of that team is the running game. And when nobody can stop thatrushing attack, why would you stray from it?

I also find it interesting when people are quick to point out injuries to the players of the spread option. Yes, if the quarterback is a threat to run, andtakes advantage of it, then of course he will be more susceptible to being hit. But the game is football, and the players and coaches know about those risks. Ithink a lot of people point to the collapse of Oregon and the WVU losses to Pitt and USF and argue that the team revolves around the QB. But if you think aboutit, usually the best player on the team is either the quarterback or the running back. In other cases the best player is on defense (Glenn Dorsey) oranother offensive position (Michael Crabtree), but if your best player is injured, regardless of the position, the team is clearly not a better team than theywere with them.

Injuries can ruin any team, in any league. IMO, injuries aren't the downfall of ANY offense. Injuries are part of the game, and as unfortunate asthey are, the risk is always going to be there.
 
I also find it interesting when people are quick to point out injuries to the players of the spread option. Yes, if the quarterback is a threat to run, and takes advantage of it, then of course he will be more susceptible to being hit. But the game is football, and the players and coaches know about those risks. I think a lot of people point to the collapse of Oregon and the WVU losses to Pitt and USF and argue that the team revolves around the QB. But if you think about it, usually the best player on the team is either the quarterback or the running back. In other cases the best player is on defense (Glenn Dorsey) or another offensive position (Michael Crabtree), but if your best player is injured, regardless of the position, the team is clearly not a better team than they were with them.
well, your QB already handles the ball every play, the risk is already immensely high
Now to give him the same QB 20 carries on top of the 10 - 15 passing plays where he's already a sitting duck is not a recipe for success, You are askingfor injuries. and if not injuries you will be asking for tentative play out fo your "offensive leader"
U can watch WVA vs USF, UF vs UGA and WVA vs Pitt as some examples.
You keep putting someone in the line of fire, they are going to get shot, period. You put players in positions they are not built for and they will get hurt orthe results of the plays wont be the result you intended when you drew them up.


If me being a fan of the team causes you to discount what they did, well sorry if that's the case.
Its not about you being a fan of the Ducks, its about being able to talk college football without the every reply being Duck related or Duckinspired


but back to the thread topic, In my humble opinion, the option is not coming back in style and to think that damn near 100 NCAA Division 1 teams will be usingthe option offense next yr or in the near future is very foolish.
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