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NIKESUX said:
The HOF will continue to be a joke as long as they have these sportswriters playing the role of god. I'm still in shock that Craig Biggio made it in. He wasn't even the 2-3rd best player on his team. Jeff Kent who probably is, as much as I hate to say, one of the best second basemen of all time only got 15% of the votes required??? You serious???



P.S. Keep Bud out of the Hall too as long as Pete Rose and the roiders are out as well
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Biggio's peak years were pretty incredible. He had 3000 hits and was an all-star at multiple positions. He was a 7 time all star, won 4 silver sluggers, and a gold glove.

I completely agree his numbers are underwhelming, but he is def a HOF caliber player.
 
Th3RealF0lkBlu3s said:
I'm disappointed in all of you. All this useless talk over the HoF and no one brings up the sick new Padres unis?
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Those are just mockups by some artist/Padres fan that wants the team to bring the old school colors back. Maybe the Padres bring back the brown in '16 but no plans right now.
 
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Yeah just heard about it on HotStove. Its by a visual effects artist name John Brubaker. Eventually they'll go back to the brown if the fans want. 
 
Proshares said:
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Cal is always funny to me when it comes to these idiots who say "look how big he is, he had to be on roids". This guy played 2,000+ games in a row in the heart of the era but never had a shot thrown his way (which is the way it should be). But Jeff Bagwell has big forearms so he was on the juice and is on the outs.
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I was simply using him as an example as a Hall of Famer who is universally respected and has never had even a slight question about possible PED use. 

We can change my example to Paul Molitor or Greg Maddux or someone if that makes it better.
 
Scalabrine said:
Halladay a first ballot guy? I'd think so but maybe not
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As much as this pains me to say as a Roy Halladay fan, not only do I think he is NOT a first ballot Hall of Famer, I don't think it is a guarantee that he is a Hall of Famer, period.

He has 2 Cy Youngs, which will certainly carry some weight.  But a 3.38 career ERA with only 208 career wins is not going to do him any favors.  Throwing a no hitter in the playoffs also carries some weight, but he only has 5 career postseason starts. 
 
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He was brilliant with the Mets if we had an offense he could've won close to 20 games a year before he got hurt. But I agree his career was too short.
 
Looks like jaso, d robertson, b powell

As a a's fan, not thrilled

The mlb talent for shark is now just a utility non starter
Rob and Wend were fine for next year.
Bb clearly doesn't like any ss he drafts!!!
This doesn't make up the "11 game" diff he harped on after winter meeting trades. He is not a 5 war player anymore.
I wonder who we get for barreto?

This would've been fine to replace jed last year...
 
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Powell and jaso really don't add to much

So it's rob for a rental and if team pitching can't keep games close, he's flipped in July
 
I think this article does a good job of summing up Billy's mindset this offseason. He's replacing subpar players (your Barton's and Sogard's) with average-above average players. Addition by subtraction, basically.

Moving Toward a Unified Theory of the A’s Offseason
by Miles Wray - January 9, 2015

Perhaps all of the wheeling and dealing is not over just yet, but seeing as it’s been a few weeks since the Oakland A’s have made a trade, perhaps Billy Beane‘s manic winter has wound down to something like a conclusion. Here’s more or less what’s happened so far:
In Out
Taylor Thompson Adam Dunn
Billy Butler Daric Barton
Ike Davis Hiroyuki Nakajima
Franklin Barreto Alberto Callaspo
Kendall Graveman Geovany Soto
Brett Lawrie Jason Hammel
Sean Nolin Jed Lowrie
Joey Wendle Jon Lester
Chris Bassitt Jonny Gomes
Josh Phegley Luke Gregerson
Rangel Ravelo Josh Donaldson
Marcus Semien Kyle Blanks
Mark Canha Brandon Moss
Eury De la Rosa Josh Lindblom
Jesse Hahn Jeff Samardzija
R.J. Alvarez Michael Ynoa
Austin House
Derek Norris
Seth Streich
Nick Punto
I’ve been a big fan of what Beane has been doing this offseason because, heck, it’s entertaining! Things have been so unpredictable in Oakland that no move would surprise us next. Sometimes proponents of different schools of thought are split when it comes to grading transactions, but this is a rare case of universal bewilderment.

It feels like we’ll only truly understand these moves in hindsight, once some actual games have been played. Will Oakland be positioned as a buyer or as a seller during next July’s trade deadline? Either option seems a viable possibility.

While I could be proven wrong if Oakland rolls out a 70-win season, here’s my best guess as to what it all means: Beane is trying to fill up his roster with as many players who are league average or better (2+ WAR) as he can. That is, Beane would be willing to trade away one star-level player (i.e., Jeff Samardzija) in exchange for two players who project as about league-average (i.e., Marcus Semien and Josh Phegley). As Dave has written about recently, the difference in value between a star player and an average one just might be a lot smaller than we think. Perhaps Oakland is operating under the assumption that a lineup without weak spots totally makes up that gap between star and mere starter.

Let’s look at the 2015 Steamer600 projections for all the players who ended the 2014 season with the A’s, and then all the players who are currently on the Oakland roster. I included everybody who was projected for at least 100 PAs or 30 innings pitched in the majors:
2014 A’s in 2015 WAR600 2015 A’s in 2015 WAR600
Josh Donaldson 5.3 Brett Lawrie 4.2
Josh Reddick 3.4 Josh Reddick 3.4
Jon Lester 3.3 Stephen Vogt 2.7
Brandon Moss 2.9 Sonny Gray 2.6
Stephen Vogt 2.7 Scott Kazmir 2.6
Sonny Gray 2.6 Craig Gentry 2.4
Scott Kazmir 2.6 Ike Davis 2.3
Jeff Samardzija 2.5 Marcus Semien 2.3
Derek Norris 2.5 Coco Crisp 2.1
Craig Gentry 2.4 Josh Phegley 2.0
Jed Lowrie 2.3 Eric Sogard 1.8
Jason Hammel 2.3 John Jaso 1.4
Coco Crisp 2.1 Billy Butler 1.4
Eric Sogard 1.8 Jesse Hahn 1.2
Geovany Soto 1.7 Jarrod Parker 1.2
John Jaso 1.4 Sam Fuld 1.1
Kyle Blanks 1.3 Nate Freiman 1.0
Jarrod Parker 1.2 A.J. Griffin 1.0
Sam Fuld 1.1 Sean Doolittle 1.0
Nate Freiman 1.0 Andy Parrino 0.8
A.J. Griffin 1.0 Ryan Cook 0.5
Sean Doolittle 1.0 Eric O’Flaherty 0.4
Alberto Callaspo 0.9 Fernando Abad 0.3
Andy Parrino 0.8 R.J. Alvarez 0.3
Adam Dunn 0.6 Evan Scribner 0.3
Ryan Cook 0.5 Dan Otero 0.2
Nick Punto 0.5 Jesse Chavez -0.1
Eric O’Flaherty 0.4 Drew Pomeranz -0.1
Luke Gregerson 0.4 Sean Nolin -0.1
Fernando Abad 0.3 Eury de la Rosa -0.3
Evan Scribner 0.3 Chris Bassitt -0.4
Dan Otero 0.2
Jonny Gomes 0.2
Jesse Chavez -0.1
Drew Pomeranz -0.1
So if the A’s returned their exact same lineup for 2015, they would have 13 players who are projected to produce at least 2 WAR over the course of a full season of playoff time. With the lineup the A’s actually have, they now have 10 such players.

Obviously 13 is a larger number than 10. But consider: the A’s end-season roster from last year was the result of some very expensive trade-deadline moves. Lester, Samardzija, and Hammel were purchased at a high price, with both Lester and Hammel due to become free agents at the end of last season. For all of the big names they’ve traded away this offseason, it’s remarkable, then, that the A’s have ended up with almost the same number of average-or-better players they had before their trade deadline action. (Yoenis Cespedes, traded for Lester, was another projected average-or-better player on Oakland’s roster last year.)

This is actually a pretty unique piece of roster construction. The Seattle Mariners, which FanGraphs currently projects as having the second-best record in 2015, only have eight average-or-better players (Robinson Cano, Kyle Seager, Brad Miller, Mike Zunino, Chris Taylor, Austin Jackson, Felix Hernandez, Hisashi Iwakuma). The Angels, projected to finish two games better than the A’s, also have eight (Mike Trout, Erick Aybar, Albert Pujols, Kole Calhoun, Chris Iannetta, David Freese, Garrett Richards, Tyler Skaggs). After pushing so many chips in the middle of the table this winter, the White Sox have all of six (Jose Abreu, Alexei Ramirez, Adam Eaton, Chris Sale, Samardzija, Jose Quintana).

Projected to have the league’s best record, the Dodgers have an impressive 13 of these players (Yasiel Puig, Adrian Gonzalez, Juan Uribe, Howie Kendrick, Jimmy Rollins, Yasmani Grandal, Joc Pederson, Carl Crawford, A.J. Ellis, Clayton Kershaw, Zack Greinke, Brandon McCarthy, Hyun-Jin Ryu). The main difference being that the Dodgers will spend about four times as much on their team in 2015 as the A’s will.

By acquiring league-average players in addition to intriguing prospects, Beane just might be giving himself his best possible chance at fulfilling the intrinsically opposite goals of (1) cutting payroll and (2) remaining in contention. On Opening Day last year, the A’s had a payroll that was about 130% the size of their payroll a year previous, and about 160% the size of the payroll the year before that. If reducing payroll was the A’s top priority heading into the winter, well, Beane has definitely made lemonade out of lemons here.

Or, shoot, maybe he’s just rebuilding.
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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/moving-toward-a-unified-theory-of-the-as-offseason/
 
Rosenthal tweeted the Nats, Mets, and Rays were close to a three team deal at the Winter Meetings.

Mets would've recieved Ian Desmond, Nats would've recieved Ben Zobrist and Yunel Escobar, and the Rays would've recieved some top prospects. In the end, the Mets pulled out.
 
Wonder if the Rays trade longo as part of the rebuild

Also wonder if the Rockies send tulo out for ton of top prospects or if they try and build around him cargo and other pieces they have
 
It all comes down to money on both of those deals. IIRC, Longo is still only at $11mm the next couple of years and he's signed until 2023 but those last couple years are killer...$18mm at 35 and $19mm at 36. So you wonder how much they'll get back because they won't pay anything if their history sticks.

Tulo, I get a feeling they'll pay a good portion and get back a good amount of prospects.
 
I dont have a problem with Sandy but jesus, our first chance to contend in years and we still having gaping holes we need to fill. i want tulo :frown:
 
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