2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

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JohnnyRedStorm said:
Sounds like Walker Buehler will need Tommy John. Keep using these tricks to boost velo, it's no big deal. Smh. It's getting ridiculous that people still teach/encourage these mechanics and brush off TJ surgery. Your elbow is a time bomb when you get Tommy John unless you tone down how hard you throw like Burnett did.
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Smarten me up on what you're saying... A link or something... Why so many surgeries in today's age?...
 
Check out this video by OTL. For a lot of these guys it's a timing issue with their arms when their front foot lands. The arm should be up in a right angle showing the ball to your arm side base (3rd righty 1st lefty) but a lot of these guys do different tweaks to stay on top of the ball more and throw harder:



Like here's Tom Seaver in a cleaner position at foot plant that decreases stress
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and here's Zack Wheeler who is the dreaded example of doing everything wrong
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and here's Matt Harvey showing the ball to center field so he can drag his arm across his body and get a few extra mph
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Here's Walker Buehler showing the ball to 2nd
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Check out this tweet on Derek Holland's mechanics.

Guys are always gonna get hurt, pitching isn't natural, but using these tricks to throw harder just make it an even more unnatural process than it should be
 
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CelticsPride34 said:
Explains why guys like Maddox never threw their arms out...
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Yep and why Nolan Ryan threw heat but maintained longevity. It isn't bad to throw hard, but it's bad when you're throwing hard the wrong way.

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AJ Burnett is one of the few guys to get TJ and have a long lasting career after it because he stopped trying to throw max speed each time he pitched. TJ isn't a death sentence, but if you keep trying to max out your velo, you're just weakening the repaired ligament at a quicker pace.
 
Lots of good stuff these last few posts, but just a disclaimer:

When looking at still pictures of a pitcher, just because their foot is down doesn't mean that's there initial foot plant.
 
Joe Pepitone says he used to hide his drugs in Wrigley Field's ivy :lol:

Longtime Yankees first baseman and outfielder Joe Pepitone, pictured above with former teammates Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle, opened up to Rolling Stone upon the reissue of his tell-all 1975 autobiography, Joe, You Coulda Made Us Proud.

In a fascinating but very explicit chat with Dan Epstein, Pepitone remembers playing pool against Frank Sinatra, smoking marijuana with Mantle, and hanging out with mafia members in New York’s club scene. And in one particularly colorful response, he details hiding the drugs he regularly got from fans in Wrigley Field’s ivy while playing for the Cubs in the early 1970s.

The full interview is not safe for work, but definitely worth reading if you’re not at work or your bosses aren’t uptight about stuff like this. The part about hiding drugs in the ivy is as follows, with the expletives deleted:

The Bleacher Bums at the Cubs’ ballpark, they’d hit me in the back with a (expletive) football during warm-ups, and I’d turn around and play catch with them. One time, someone hit me in the back with some foil, all wrapped up, and there’s like four joints in it. I went and stuck it in the ivy on the outfield wall, but I remembered where I put it. Once they saw me do that, the regular Bleacher Bums started throwing things at me every day; I’d get hit with a little packet, I’d look and there’s a gram of coke in there. I was like, “Holy (expletive)!” Right into the ivy with it! I’m telling you, I got speed, I got everything. Used to be I was always the first person at the ballpark, and the first one to leave; next thing you know, people are wondering why I’m hanging out at the ballpark so long. Leo [Durocher] goes, “You still here?” “Yeah, I gotta get a rubdown from the trainer!” Then I’d be out in centerfield with my shorts on, looking through the ivy to find my dope. I loved Chicago! With the (expletive) I was getting in centerfield, I woulda played for nothing!
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So there’s that. For more like it, check out the Rolling Stone interview, where Pepitone even weighs in on the numerous references he got in Seinfeld. Again, it’s not for the easily offended, or those who prefer their ballplayers pristine.
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Jewbacca2 said:
Lots of good stuff these last few posts, but just a disclaimer:

When looking at still pictures of a pitcher, just because their foot is down doesn't mean that's there initial foot plant.
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Very true. Watching the delivery in slow motion or creating a gif using the frames per second is more helpful. I just don't have those tools :lol:


15-19 year olds accounted for 56.7% of the Tommy John surgeries from 2007-11
20-24 years account for 22.2%

Damn shame
http://www.sportsmed.org/uploadedFi...l_Meeting_2015/Erickson UCLR Trends in US.pdf
 
Bolsinger lollipops a throw 10 feet over A-Gons head and the Nats announcer thinks it should be a 2 base hit :lol: cmon man thats an error all the way
 
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