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Today in Baseball History
September 4th​

1906 The Highlanders beat the Boston Americans, 1-0, at Huntington Avenue Grounds, ending a run in which New York played five consecutive doubleheaders in six days. The overtime pays off when the team sweeps all of the twin bills, posting a record of 10-0 during the streak.

1913 In his major league debut, 22 year-old Hal Schwenk pitches 11 innings, giving up 12 hits, but earns a complete-game victory when St. Louis defeats the White Sox at Sportsman's Park, 5-4. The Browns' rookie southpaw will never again appear in a big league game.

1916 Reds' player-manager Christy Mathewson, pitching his only game not in a Giant uniform, beats his long-time nemesis Mordecai 'Three Finger' Brown and the Cubs, 10-8. In the 25 contests the two legends have faced one another, Matty, by winning the last decision, takes a 13-12 advantage in their final meeting.

1923 Sam Jones no-hits the A’s, 2–0 at Shibe Park. The Yankee hurler does not strike out any Philadelphia batters, a feat which will not be repeated again until 1969 when Ken Holtzman becomes another pitcher to record a no-hitter without fanning a hitter.

1924 The Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers) take a twin bill from the Braves, sweeping their fourth doubleheader in four consecutive days. Between September 1-3, the Brooks beat the Phillies six times.

1927 Pirate teammates Lloyd and Paul Waner become the first pair of brothers to both homer in the same game when they go deep in the team's 8-4 victory over Cincinnati at Redland Field. The siblings, who will also accomplish the feat in 1929 and 1938, each hit a bounce round-tripper.

1928 The Braves start a streak of playing nine consecutive doubleheaders, establishing a major league record. Boston will drop 14 of the 18 contests played during the twin bill marathon.

1941 The Yankees clinch their third straight pennant when they beat the Red Sox, 6-3. It is the earliest date in baseball history a team has captured a flag.

1949 At Philadelphia's Shibe Park‚ Tommy Holmes hits a two-run homer in the fifth inning of a 9-8 loss to the Phillies. Dating back to August 3rd, the Braves outfielder has hit 10 home runs without striking out once during that span.

1957 Orioles' rookie right-hander Jerry Walker throws a four-hitter, blanking Washington in 10 innings, 1-0. The shutout is the 18 year-old bonus baby's first major league victory.

1961 At Metropolitan Stadium, Joe Horlen makes his big league debut, hurling four innings of scoreless relief to get the win in the White Sox's 9-5 victory over Minnesota. The 24 year-old rookie right-hander, a last-minute call-up, is forced to wear the only road jersey the club has available, one without a number.

1966 The Dodgers become the first team to draw two million fans at home and two million on the road as 18,670 Crosley Field patrons watch Los Angeles beat their home town Reds, 8-6.

1969 After thirty-one games, the third longest consecutive game hitting streak in National League history ends as Dodger Willie Davis is stopped by **** Kelley and Gary Ross in a 3-0 loss to the Padres.

1969 Trailing by three runs entering the top of the ninth, the Orioles quickly tie the score when their first three batters, Frank Robinson, Boog Powell and Brooks Robinson, hit consecutive solo home runs off Earl Wilson. The Birds go on to score the eventual winning tally later in the frame and will beat the Tigers, 5-4.

1974 After pitching eight no-hit innings against the Reds, Don Wilson is pulled from the game by Astros' manager Preston Gomez in favor of a pinch hitter. Mike Cosgrove gives up a hit to Tony Perez in the ninth and Houston loses, 2-1.

1978 In his first major league at-bat, Dorian Boyland strikes out sitting on the bench. The Pirate rookie is removed with a 1-2 count when the Mets make a pitching change and pinch hitter Rennie Stennett takes the third strike.

1985 Following a three-homer game last night, Gary Carter ties a major league record by hitting two solo homers to become the 11th player in major league history to hit five home runs in two games.

1991 The Statistical Accuracy Committee re-defines a no-hit game as one which ends after nine or more innings with one team failing to get a hit, thereby removing 50 games from the list that had previously been considered hitless, including the 1959 performance of Harvey Haddix's 12 perfect innings against the Braves and Jim Maloney's 1965 1-0 loss to the Mets in 11-innings.

1991 Following commissioner Fay Vincent's recommendation, baseball's committee on statistical accuracy votes to eliminate the distinction of number of games played in a league's schedule in determining the all-time home run mark hit in a season. The decision can't take away an asterisk because it really never existed in the record books, but it does remove Babe Ruth's name, leaving the other Yankee outfielder, Roger Maris, as the undisputed home run champ with 61 hit in 1961.

1993 Jim Abbott, born without a right hand, no-hits the Indians at Yankee Stadium, 4-0, becoming the first pinstripe pitcher in a decade to throw a no-no. In the ninth inning, leadoff hitter Kenny Lofton is loudly booed by the fans after he fouls off a bunt in an attempt to make the one-handed pitcher field a ball.

1993 With their 6-5 loss to the Reds, the Phillies set a new National League record by not being blanked in 151 straight games. The major league mark for avoiding a shutout is 308 consecutive contests, accomplished by the Yankees.

1995 Robin Ventura becomes the eighth player to hit two grand slams in the same game. The third baseman's blasts in the fourth and fifth innings power the White Sox past Texas at The Ballpark in Arlington, 14-3.

1996 Babe Dahlgren, the man who replaced Lou Gehrig at first base to end the streak, dies in Arcadia, California. In the game, he goes 2-for-4, including a home run, in a 22-2 victory over the Tigers at Briggs Stadium.

1998 Defeating the White Sox, 11-6, the Yankees win their 100th game on the earliest date in major league history, besting the 1906 Chicago Cubs and 1954 Cleveland Indians by five days. The 1906 Cubs set the major league record for fewest contests to reach 100 victories, accomplishing the milestone in 132 games.

1999 The Reds set a National League record with nine homers with as they rout the Phillies, 22-3. Eddie Taubensee (2), Greg Vaughn, Jeffrey Hammonds, Aaron Boone, Dimitri Young, Pokey Reese, Brian Johnson and Mark Lewis all go yard for Cincinnati.

2000 The Red Sox honor Hall of Fame catcher Carlton Fisk. The New Hampshire resident, who played his first nine seasons with Boston, joins Bobby Doerr (1), Joe Cronin (4), Carl Yastrzemski (8) and Ted Williams (9) in having his number (27) be retired at Fenway.

2002 In front of 55,528 fans at the Coliseum, the A's set an American League record by extending their winning streak to 20 consecutive games. After blowing an 11-run lead to the Royals, Scott Hatteberg hits a walk off home run in the bottom of the ninth inning, giving Oakland the historic victory, 12-11.

2003 In his first at-bat after his arrest in Pittsburgh for felony counts of sexual assault and related charges, Ramon Castro receives a supportive ovation from the Florida fans as he approaches the batter box as a pinch-hitter. The Marlin catcher connects for a home run in the 5-1 victory against the Pirates.

2006 With an 8-5 comeback victory over the Diamondbacks, the Marlins improve their record to 69-68. After an 11-31 start, Florida becomes the first club in big league history to have a winning record after being 20 games under .500.

2007 Francisco Cordero establishes a new Milwaukee mark when he gets his 40th save, pitching a scoreless ninth inning in the Brewers' 5-3 win over Houston. The right-handed reliever surpasses the record previously shared by Dan Kolb (2004) and Derrick Turnbow (2005).

2007 In the fifth inning of Florida's loss 4-3 to Washington, Miguel Cabrera singles off Shawn Hill to drive home Hanley Ramirez for his 500th career RBI. The Marlin third baseman reaches the milestone at the age of 24 years and 139 days with only Hall of Famers Mel Ott (23, 74 days) and Ted Williams (24 years, 4 days) getting to the mark at a younger age.

2010 Jim Thome hits a pair of homers to pass Mark McGwire for eighth place on the all-time career list with 584. The Twins designated hitter's historic round-trippers, which he blasts in the third and fourth innings off Colby Lewis at Target Field, contribute to Minnesota's 12-4 victory over Texas.

2012 An unofficial rain delay occurs in Toronto when the retractable roof of the Rogers Centre closes so slowly that the fans have to run for cover as the stands and field get soaked with rain that begins to fall during the middle of the sixth inning. Surprisingly, there have been six official rain delays in the Rogers Centre, formerly known as the Skydome.

2012 Yadier Molina collects his 1,00th career hit, an infield single in the second inning of the Cardinals' 5-1 victory against New York at Busch Stadium. The 31 year-old popular Redbird backstop, who enjoys a 2-for-3 night at the plate, will finish the season with a .279 career batting average

2013 In a 20-4 rout of the Tigers at Fenway Park, the Red Sox hit eight home runs, matching a franchise record last accomplished 35 years ago. Boston homers in six of eight frames they bat with Mike Napoli, Ryan Lavarnway, Daniel Nava, Will Middlebrooks, David Ortiz (2), Jacoby Ellsbury, and Stephen Drew all going deep in the Fenway Park contest.
 
Man, Carlos Gonzalez is on another planet since he got healthy.

He and Arenado playing Coors is making a last place team so fun to watch. :lol:
 
Not surprised about CarGo's performance. He always hit too well in second half of seasons in his entire career.
 
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He's just gotta stay healthy, he was killing early in the season but his knee failed him and he turned to mush.
 
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awwsome said:
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He's just gotta stay healthy, he was killing early in the season but his knee failed him and he turned to mush.
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I share a fantasy team with my friend and we had the option of dealing Moustakas for CarGo right before the hot streak started. I wanted to do the deal, but he wasn't into it so it never happened. Damn shame, he's been on fire ever since.
 
the Mets are in a tough spot with this Harvey/Boras thing....

no matter what they do they're the bad guys
 
that's what i'm saying

if they shut him down when he hits 180 ip: What're they doing shutting down their ace in the thick of a pennant race?

if they pitch him over the limit: What're they doing pushing their ace over what he can handle coming off Tommy John surgery?
 
I don't care. If his elbow goes it goes. I want a World Series.

We saw what happened to the Nats shutting down Strasburg. I'm good on that.
 
That's complete horse**** to put one of your best pitchers on ice for the season if he's healthy. We need to go back to the old school pitchers that threw complete games
 
If Boras doesn't like it, tough luck. I'd trade Harvey to the worst team in baseball for nothing to make his life miserable before I shut him down in a pennant race.
 
We saw what happened with Stras when they shut him down. Missed a chance to go on a postseason run and he still misses a bunch of starts each year. Nothing is guaranteed in life, and just because a guy throws 20 less innings doesn't mean he's going to magically be healthy forever. If his body is weak, he'll get hurt one way or another.
 
Don't get me wrong. deGrom is my dude. He's my number one favorite Met this year but Harvey is definitely better than deGrom. 0.76 era in August. :x

Knowing Harvey too well, he'd ignore his agent's words. He wants to pitch and win more than anything. It's in his blood. That's one of things I like about him.

I say let Harvey pitch. This is probably our only chance. Alderson gave up prospects for good hitters. Cespedes has been on fire but he's on his contract year. It is hard to tell if he will do the same thing in the future since he gets his new big contract. Wright won't probably be same again. Spinal stenosis is no joke. Cuddyer is getting old. We might lose Murphy due to financial reason. Wilpon and his partners faced a $250 mill loan which it would take them 4-5 years to finish it off. Alderson and Mets fans know this year is our best chance.
 
Strasburg gave up 5 ER in 2 of his last 3 starts in 2012. He was hitting a wall and they didn't expect to make the playoffs that year which is why the shutdown was in order. They did the same thing with Jordan Zimmermann a year before. They missed a chance to go on a postseason run because Drew Storen imploded. Strasburg wouldn't have helped him throw one more strike in the 9th.

Also, he doesn't miss a bunch of starts each year. This is the first season he's missed time since the shutdown and none of the issues have to deal with his arm. You're just running with the narrative. If I'm the Mets I wouldn't shut him down, but I'd definitely cap him before 200 innings. You guys complain about the Mets franchise not doing things correctly and handling injuries improperly and then you say let Harvey got out there and blow his elbow so you can have the satisfaction of your team winning? C'mon man. He's the face of the franchise, you don't trot him out there to die when a doctor's opinion says otherwise. Boras is a jackass and is definitely looking out for his own interests on the financial side, but he is right about that.
 
Let guys pitch. If they get hurt, they get hurt.

Until there's actual scientific proof that clearly shows X will lead to injury, let guys pitch. All of this within reason though.

Arbitrary 180 inning cap though? That's laughable :lol:

Not all innings are created equal, so that seriously makes no logical sense.
 
Alderson said it Harvey's pitched a "soft" 166 innings & they're gonna let him go over the limit
 
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