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I know this isnt a new report, but I just read that Don Mattingly says that Brandon League will be the Dodgers closer this season and not Kenley Janson?!? WTF?!? As a Giants fan, I am absolutely thrilled with this decision. Brandon League is trash and Janson looks unhittable most of the time.

Can any Dodger fans weigh in on this? I am curious to know what your thoughts are.
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League finished the year strong if I remember correctly. I think with Janson's recent stints in the DL and having a heart/blood problem (I think that's what it is) I don't know if the dodgers can count on him to be healthy all year.

I don't mind it til league starts ****** blowing saves :lol:
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Completely unrelated topic but,

jordan you know where I can find a green and gold Dodger hat? It would be exactly A's colors but with "LA" in the middle.

Would any Lids in LA have it? I seen it online and now I got to have it.
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I've seen it, but I think it's been a min since I last saw it. I'll be on the lookout. What size?
 
mr jordan04 said:
Th3RealF0lkBlu3s said:
mr jordan04 said:
dland24 said:
I know this isnt a new report, but I just read that Don Mattingly says that Brandon League will be the Dodgers closer this season and not Kenley Janson?!? WTF?!? As a Giants fan, I am absolutely thrilled with this decision. Brandon League is trash and Janson looks unhittable most of the time.

Can any Dodger fans weigh in on this? I am curious to know what your thoughts are.
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League finished the year strong if I remember correctly. I think with Janson's recent stints in the DL and having a heart/blood problem (I think that's what it is) I don't know if the dodgers can count on him to be healthy all year.

I don't mind it til league starts ****** blowing saves :lol:
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Completely unrelated topic but,

jordan you know where I can find a green and gold Dodger hat? It would be exactly A's colors but with "LA" in the middle.

Would any Lids in LA have it? I seen it online and now I got to have it.
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I've seen it, but I think it's been a min since I last saw it. I'll be on the lookout. What size?
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7 3/8's ideally, I found it on ecapcity.com in 7 1/2 but that's a little too big.

Thanks for looking out homie.
 
Not only has Votto only pulled one foul ball into the stands during his 2,821 big-league plate appearances, but he can still remember the moment he put that baseball into the seats.
From Sports Illustrated:
"Sure, I remember it," Votto said. "It was my rookie year (in 2007). It wasn't that deep — and maybe 20, 30 feet foul. I haven't hit a long home run foul in my whole career."
I was stunned when Votto told me that. We were talking about pull hitting last Friday because I was intrigued that he had not hit a home run to rightfield all year. (Lo and behold, he smacked a Wandy Rodriguez breaking ball into the rightfield seats about two hours later.)
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and in 2010, he never popped up to the infield. i don't even know how rare that is, but it sounds amazing.

anytime this Votto/foul ball stuff comes up, i think of this video for some reason.




love this guy. he's hitting homers in bp again according to spring reports.
 
Hi dland,

MLB gives A's tentative guidelines for potential move to San Jose
Sources say the guidelines don't necessarily mean the Oakland team will ever move to San Jose, because the San Francisco Giants own the territorial rights and haven't been inclined to give them up.


By Bill Shaikin

February 20, 2013, 7:21 p.m.

The commissioner's office has provided the Oakland Athletics with tentative guidelines for a potential move to San Jose, according to three people familiar with the matter but not authorized to discuss it.

The existence of the guidelines does not necessarily mean the A's will move to San Jose soon, or at all. However, if the A's can satisfy the concerns of the league office, Commissioner Bud Selig could let club owners decide whether to approve the move.

The San Francisco Giants hold territorial rights to San Jose and oppose the proposed move there by the A's. The discussions between the A's and Major League Baseball do not affect the Giants' ability to challenge such a move.

Larry Baer, the Giants' president and chief executive, declined to comment Wednesday. Lew Wolff, the A's managing partner, also declined to comment.

MLB limited its comment to a one-sentence statement referring to the work of a committee Selig appointed four years ago, after the A's first unveiled plans to relocate to San Jose.

"The committee continues to work hard on this very complex, complicated situation," MLB spokesman Pat Courtney said in the statement.

It is unclear exactly what criteria the A's have been asked to fulfill or how difficult that might be. However, compensation to the Giants — how much they would have to be paid for the loss of their territorial rights — is not believed to be among the current list of matters for the A's to resolve.

Under Rule 1 of the Major League Rules, the A's would owe the Giants whatever "sum of money as the Commissioner deems appropriate."

The commissioner's office has expressed concerns about the viability of the proposed San Jose ballpark site and the financial projections offered by the A's in support of a move, according to people familiar with the discussions. It is unclear if the A's have been asked for guarantees on either score.

The A's have pledged to pay for a $500-million ballpark in San Jose. Once they got there, they would no longer be eligible for tens of millions in annual revenue sharing, although they would expect to make millions more from ticket sales, luxury seats and concessions.

The MLB guidelines are believed to be fluid, with the objective of determining whether the A's can "satisfy the Commissioner as to the bona fides" of the relocation proposal "and as to the financial ability and character of the owners of such Club to maintain such Club," in accordance with Rule 1.

The A's would need 75% of the clubs to approve a move to San Jose and to rescind the Giants' territorial rights, so the Giants could stop the move by lining up seven clubs to vote with them. Even if the A's satisfy the MLB concerns and proceed to a vote, it is not incumbent upon Selig to endorse the proposal.

The Giants –- or other entities, whether on behalf of the team or independently — also could sue to try to halt a San Jose ballpark project.

It is unlikely the A's could move to San Jose before 2018.

In December, Wolff asked Oakland Coliseum officials to let his team remain there through 2017. In his proposal, he pledged the A's would not leave before then "regardless of the outcome of our efforts to obtain a new facility in the City of San Jose."

Selig has long said the A's need a new ballpark. Wolff joined the A's in 2003, as the vice president in charge of a securing that new ballpark, then led an ownership group that bought the team outright in 2005.

In 2009, after the collapse of a three-year effort to secure a new ballpark in the Alameda County city of Fremont, Wolff turned his attention to a site 15 miles away, in San Jose.

Under MLB's constitution, the Giants have exclusive rights to Santa Clara County, which includes San Jose. The Giants argued that those rights should be upheld and that they could suffer significant economic damage if the Santa Clara County fans and businesses that support their team switch their financial allegiance to the A's.

Selig responded by forming a task force to determine whether the A's might find a new ballpark in Oakland or anywhere else in their own territory.

"The A's cannot and will not continue indefinitely in their current situation," Selig said in the news release announcing the appointment of the task force.

That was four years ago. In the interim, Selig has been unable to broker a compromise between the A's and Giants.
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0221-athletics-san-jose-20130221,0,1177347.story
 
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Of course. I just want you to realize that the gears are churning for this move. And to enjoy the SJ Giants while you can.
 
You ever been to an SJ Giants game? They are fun as hell!!!

I really hope you guys get a new stadium. I really do. I am a huge baseball fan, not just a Giants fan. Its awesome having two teams in our area. Ultimately, I wouldnt be pissed if they got a new stadium in San Jose. I would just prefer they figure something out and stay in the East Bay.
 
Well, for one, the Giants aren't surrendering those corporate dollars.

Two, if it comes to owners votes it sets an ominous precedent should other teams want to relocate in the future. Let's take Tampa Bay for example, great team but can't sellout games despite the talent and wins. Awful stadium too. What if they wanted to relocate to Delaware? That would cut into the Nationals and Orioles revenue and it would be devastating to them because they'd lose corporate sponsors. If the owners approve a move for the A's to San Jose they're also approving other teams to come into their territory and take their sponsors as well in the future.
 
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Well, for one, the Giants aren't surrendering those corporate dollars.

Two, if it comes to owners votes it sets an ominous precedent should other teams want to relocate in the future. Let's take Tampa Bay for example, great team but can't sellout games despite the talent and wins. Awful stadium too. What if they wanted to relocate to Delaware? That would cut into the Nationals and Orioles revenue and it would be devastating to them because they'd lose corporate sponsors. If the owners approve a move for the A's to San Jose they're also approving other teams to come into their territory and take their sponsors as well in the future.
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I don't think comparing the A's moving somewhere else in Cali to the Rays moving all the way to Delaware fair.
 
Lightweight Champion said:
Well, for one, the Giants aren't surrendering those corporate dollars.

Two, if it comes to owners votes it sets an ominous precedent should other teams want to relocate in the future. Let's take Tampa Bay for example, great team but can't sellout games despite the talent and wins. Awful stadium too. What if they wanted to relocate to Delaware? That would cut into the Nationals and Orioles revenue and it would be devastating to them because they'd lose corporate sponsors. If the owners approve a move for the A's to San Jose they're also approving other teams to come into their territory and take their sponsors as well in the future.
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First, the Giants have already backed off to a degree concerning how they've defended the Santa Clara territory. Before, there was absolutely ZERO language suggesting that the Giants would give up Santa Clara. Now, Larry Baer says that he agrees that the A's need a stadium and he hopes they get one, far from how he used to discuss the issue. The writing is on the wall. And how does it make sense that the Giants have access to BOTH of the major corporate cities in the area and the A's are left to languish? How is that beneficial for Major League Baseball? MLB doesn't revolve around the Giants whims, as you know.

Secondly, owners have already spoken out on the A's behalf on the need to move. White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf did so last year, directly stating that the A's need to move to San Jose. And Reinsdorf isn't just some schmuck owner, either: he's one of the most influential in baseball, having owned the White Sox for over thirty years and oversaw the committee which moved the Expos to DC. Him speaking on the issue says volumes on how owners view the situation.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19493558

Coming from a Kings fan, I'm a little amused at how simply it comes to you to say that the Giants require San Jose's corporate money. It's that arrogance that makes me smile when I think about you Giants/Kings fans who are going to lose the Kings to Seattle.
 
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Th3RealF0lkBlu3s said:
Lightweight Champion said:
Well, for one, the Giants aren't surrendering those corporate dollars.

Two, if it comes to owners votes it sets an ominous precedent should other teams want to relocate in the future. Let's take Tampa Bay for example, great team but can't sellout games despite the talent and wins. Awful stadium too. What if they wanted to relocate to Delaware? That would cut into the Nationals and Orioles revenue and it would be devastating to them because they'd lose corporate sponsors. If the owners approve a move for the A's to San Jose they're also approving other teams to come into their territory and take their sponsors as well in the future.
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First, the Giants have already backed off to a degree concerning how they've defended the Santa Clara territory. Before, there was absolutely ZERO language suggesting that the Giants would give up Santa Clara. Now, Larry Baer says that he agrees that the A's need a stadium and he hopes they get one, far from how he used to discuss the issue. The writing is on the wall. And how does it make sense that the Giants have access to BOTH of the major corporate cities in the area and the A's are left to languish? How is that beneficial for Major League Baseball? MLB doesn't revolve around the Giants whims, you know.

Secondly, owners have already spoken out on the A's behalf on the need to move. White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf did so last year, directly stating that the A's need to move to San Jose. And Reinsdorf isn't just some schmuck owner, either: he's one of the most influential in baseball, having owned the White Sox for over thirty years and oversaw the committee which moved the Expos to DC. Him speaking on the issue says volumes on how owners view the situation.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19493558

Coming from a Kings fan, I'm a little amused at how simply it comes to you to say that the Giants require San Jose's corporate money. It's that arrogance that makes me smile when I think about you Giants/Kings fans who are going to lose the Kings to Seattle.
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I dont disagree with much of what you said in this post....however I dont see how you come to the conclusion that because Larry Baer said the yellow, that it somehow means the green is no longer how he feels.

Saying the A's need a new stadium in no way means he is saying that he is suggesting that the Giants would give up Santa Clara.

Unless there is some quote I havent read, that you forgot to include in your post.
 
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dland24 said:
Th3RealF0lkBlu3s said:
Lightweight Champion said:
Well, for one, the Giants aren't surrendering those corporate dollars.

Two, if it comes to owners votes it sets an ominous precedent should other teams want to relocate in the future. Let's take Tampa Bay for example, great team but can't sellout games despite the talent and wins. Awful stadium too. What if they wanted to relocate to Delaware? That would cut into the Nationals and Orioles revenue and it would be devastating to them because they'd lose corporate sponsors. If the owners approve a move for the A's to San Jose they're also approving other teams to come into their territory and take their sponsors as well in the future.
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First, the Giants have already backed off to a degree concerning how they've defended the Santa Clara territory. Before, there was absolutely ZERO language suggesting that the Giants would give up Santa Clara. Now, Larry Baer says that he agrees that the A's need a stadium and he hopes they get one, far from how he used to discuss the issue. The writing is on the wall. And how does it make sense that the Giants have access to BOTH of the major corporate cities in the area and the A's are left to languish? How is that beneficial for Major League Baseball? MLB doesn't revolve around the Giants whims, you know.

Secondly, owners have already spoken out on the A's behalf on the need to move. White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf did so last year, directly stating that the A's need to move to San Jose. And Reinsdorf isn't just some schmuck owner, either: he's one of the most influential in baseball, having owned the White Sox for over thirty years and oversaw the committee which moved the Expos to DC. Him speaking on the issue says volumes on how owners view the situation.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19493558

Coming from a Kings fan, I'm a little amused at how simply it comes to you to say that the Giants require San Jose's corporate money. It's that arrogance that makes me smile when I think about you Giants/Kings fans who are going to lose the Kings to Seattle.
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I dont disagree with much of what you said in this post....however I dont see how you come to the conclusion that because Larry Baer said the yellow, that it somehow means the green is no longer how he feels.

Saying the A's need a new stadium in no way means he is saying that he is suggesting that the Giants would give up Santa Clara.

Unless there is some quote I havent read, that you forgot to include in your post.
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I'm actually looking for an article I read a couple months back correlating Baer's language concerning the stadium situation to developments that were becoming public at the time. I'll post it if I can find it.
 
JumpmanFromDaBay said:
Nowitness41Dirk said:
JumpmanFromDaBay said:
Moving to SJ would hurt the fans who go to games from the Walnut Creek Area. Atleast an hour away :smh:
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All 11 of them?
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:smh:

I don't blame ppl for not going. That place is terrible for baseball now. It's in the worst location.
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It really is. No shops around, nothing to do before or after games. Located in a terrible part of Oakland (though gentrification could transform the area in 10-20 years' time.)

It's almost exactly like Candlestick. Except I'd say that I prefer the Coliseum to Candlestick, which I think is the worst park I've ever been to (and I was there to see both Giants and Niner games).
 
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