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Doc is easily the best in the world at his craft.
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Halladay and I don't really think it's as close as people make it either
Hamels is underrated as hell this year, Philly's FO is smart they're going to resign him at the end of the year and let Roy walk. He's arguably the 5th best pitcher in the league behind Weaver and Verlander. Maybe Lincecum.
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just let Blanton goOriginally Posted by Proshares
Halladay and I don't really think it's as close as people make it either
Hamels is underrated as hell this year, Philly's FO is smart they're going to resign him at the end of the year and let Roy walk. He's arguably the 5th best pitcher in the league behind Weaver and Verlander. Maybe Lincecum.
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Halladay has performed better than any pitcher over the last 10 years, and I don't think there's that much room for debate.
The only people who I would put at his level over any significant amount of time would be (healthy) Johan Santana and (healthy) Pedro Martinez. Aside from injuries, those two compare to Doc pretty well as far as domination goes.
Roy just has that longevity till he's 70 type dominance, at age 34 there doesn't look like there's any slowing up any time soon
The only people who I would put at his level over any significant amount of time would be (healthy) Johan Santana and (healthy) Pedro Martinez. Aside from injuries, those two compare to Doc pretty well as far as domination goes.
Roy just has that longevity till he's 70 type dominance, at age 34 there doesn't look like there's any slowing up any time soon
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Halladay has performed better than any pitcher over the last 10 years, and I don't think there's that much room for debate.
The only people who I would put at his level over any significant amount of time would be (healthy) Johan Santana and (healthy) Pedro Martinez. Aside from injuries, those two compare to Doc pretty well as far as domination goes.
Roy just has that longevity till he's 70 type dominance, at age 34 there doesn't look like there's any slowing up any time soon
The only people who I would put at his level over any significant amount of time would be (healthy) Johan Santana and (healthy) Pedro Martinez. Aside from injuries, those two compare to Doc pretty well as far as domination goes.
Roy just has that longevity till he's 70 type dominance, at age 34 there doesn't look like there's any slowing up any time soon
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How C.C. and David Robertson didn't get selected
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Jair Jurrjens is pitching great baseball had a couple bad starts, but he may get be the starter for the ASG.
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Jair Jurrjens is pitching great baseball had a couple bad starts, but he may get be the starter for the ASG.
I think Tommy Hanson should be an All star.
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Originally Posted by bkmac
How C.C. and David Robertson didn't get selected.
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How C.C. and David Robertson didn't get selected.
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As dead serious as the hoody.Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Originally Posted by bkmac
How C.C. and David Robertson didn't get selected.Really?
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[/td][/tr][/table]You are lying to yourself for whatever reason if you don't agree with me. Considering Soriano was supposed to be our SU man, and he's out, and Joba is out too, Robertson has stepped it up and held our bullpen together.
All-Star selection system is flawed when it comes to relievers anyway. The best SU man should get the nod over at least one of the few closers that are selected, or another reliever. They are not recognized.
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As dead serious as the hoody.Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Originally Posted by bkmac
How C.C. and David Robertson didn't get selected.Really?
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[/td][/tr][/table]You are lying to yourself for whatever reason if you don't agree with me. Considering Soriano was supposed to be our SU man, and he's out, and Joba is out too, Robertson has stepped it up and held our bullpen together.
All-Star selection system is flawed when it comes to relievers anyway. The best SU man should get the nod over at least one of the few closers that are selected, or another reliever. They are not recognized.
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