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I mean Manny has never been a great offensive player at any level, I don't think he has the vision/pitch recognition to ever be great offensive player.

Meanwhile Bryce's performance given as a 19 year old historically suggests future greatness.

Hard to take Manny over Bryce.



I forgot that Stantons contract is expiring soon so technically Bryce's trade value is higher probably higher unless you can secure an extension.
 
also: They never should have moved Bryce off of catcher.

by all accounts he was a natural at the position with an 80 arm.

but even with that said, Mike Trout early greatness is making people lose sight of the fact that it's still a good bet that Bryce Harper becomes the generational talent he was billed at.
 
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Manny's defense is what sets him apart from his peers. The crazy thing is, you can mention him amongst the likes of Brooks Robinson to the most hardcore O's fan, and there wouldn't be much of an argument about where his defense is. I honestly put more stock (defensively) in someone playing 3rd than someone in the outfield. That's just me.
 
Manny's defense is what sets him apart from his peers. The crazy thing is, you can mention him amongst the likes of Brooks Robinson to the most hardcore O's fan, and there wouldn't be much of an argument about where his defense is. I honestly put more stock (defensively) in someone playing 3rd than someone in the outfield. That's just me.

Third base, second base and Centre are tied for positional adjustment.

I think Bryce can play average CF.

This comparison might sound like an insult but it isn't the best comparison Scott Rolen?

An often injured generational defensive talent who develops into an above average hitter.


Scott Rolen has a stealth really good hall of fame resume, he will never get in because people don't value D like that, unless you play for a famous team.
 
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you MIGHT pull the trigger?

That's a ******* no brainer! Stanton is arguably the best power hitter in the game and his bat in the lineup would do 10000000000000000x more than Harper's.
True :lol: but it'd be tough...there's always the chance Harper turns out to be an absolute stud, wouldn't want to give that up.
 
Harper's gonna be mashing 40 bombs in a season in no time. I think he's a real special player and I'm not sure why the hate is at the level it is. The only hope is that he stays on the field. I love the kids hustle too.
 
Harper's gonna be mashing 40 bombs in a season in no time. I think he's a real special player and I'm not sure why the hate is at the level it is. The only hope is that he stays on the field. I love the kids hustle too.
I had him hitting 38 this year, damn thumb injury :smh: It looks like he's finally got his stance/swing right again, and is keeping his head still. Love to see him start heating up as October approaches :pimp:
 
Harper's gonna be mashing 40 bombs in a season in no time. I think he's a real special player and I'm not sure why the hate is at the level it is. The only hope is that he stays on the field. I love the kids hustle too.

Because he's an ******* :lol: he's got that Bonds/Belle syndrome. But I love it. I'd love to see him flip Matt Williams off every time he gets on base and mush him every time he hits a HR.

But then again, I have a weird hate for Matt Williams :lol:
 
Because he's an ******* :lol: he's got that Bonds/Belle syndrome. But I love it. I'd love to see him flip Matt Williams off every time he gets on base and mush him every time he hits a HR.

But then again, I have a weird hate for Matt Williams :lol:
Albert Belle on the Indians was fuego. One of my favorite childhood memories.

Preferred Cal?
 
Manny's defense is what sets him apart from his peers. The crazy thing is, you can mention him amongst the likes of Brooks Robinson to the most hardcore O's fan, and there wouldn't be much of an argument about where his defense is. I honestly put more stock (defensively) in someone playing 3rd than someone in the outfield. That's just me.

Third base, second base and Centre are tied for positional adjustment.

I think Bryce can play average CF.

This comparison might sound like an insult but it isn't the best comparison Scott Rolen?

An often injured generational defensive talent who develops into an above average hitter.


Scott Rolen has a stealth really good hall of fame resume, he will never get in because people don't value D like that, unless you play for a famous team.

Hmmm....Rolen isn't a bad comparison. I just REALLY hope that this is the end of the major injuries for Manny. On one hand I'm happy that he's getting this **** out of the way early in his career...but on the other, it's obviously concerning. He said that after the last injury, the doctors are going to correct an abnormality in his knee. I don't think it was discovered until they did their last scope. It was something that would eventually led to him missing some time, so maybe...just maybe the silver lining is that catching it early is good for him in the long run.

Also, not for nothing, but Harper hasn't exactly been the model of good health as well. I mean, he hasn't had the devastating knee injuries like Manny, but I think the way he plays the game (going 110% at all times) is going to have an affect on his overall health. He'll learn, I think, to scale it back a bit. Easier said than done, because I don't think it's necessarily in his DNA to do so.


An O's fan shouldn't take that as an insult.

Didn't they get Encarnacion for him back then?

Yea, I think it was Rolen for Edwin Encarnacion

IF Manny can keep his health, I think he's got a higher upside than Bryce Harper.

******* knee injury, man. Dude was hitting his stride after a slow start.

Your bias is :lol:

IMO, Manny has had the better overall career so far.

you MIGHT pull the trigger?

That's a ******* no brainer! Stanton is arguably the best power hitter in the game and his bat in the lineup would do 10000000000000000x more than Harper's.
True :lol: but it'd be tough...there's always the chance Harper turns out to be an absolute stud, wouldn't want to give that up.

I think Harper will be a perennial 30-35 HR type of guy. That might even come next year. The key is his health. He's had some tough luck, but as the one Nat that I do like, I hope he goes HAM.

Harper's gonna be mashing 40 bombs in a season in no time. I think he's a real special player and I'm not sure why the hate is at the level it is. The only hope is that he stays on the field. I love the kids hustle too.

Like Pro said, people think he's like Belle/Bonds. A lot of folks have a hard time separating the man on the field with the man off of it. He's a real good dude with a good head on his shoulders. Honestly, I think he will be one of the few phenoms who live up to the hype.


True :lol: but it'd be tough...there's always the chance Harper turns out to be an absolute stud, wouldn't want to give that up.

no way you trade Harper for stanton with free agency looming.

OK, Osh...it's a hypothetical. Take free agency out of it. Right now, it's a no-brainer to trade Harper for Stanton. Obviously, Harper isn't near his prime...but the scary thing is...you can say the same for Stanton. He's only, what? 3-4 years older? I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. To me, Stanton is one of the 5 best position players in the game right now. Harper has the potential to be there, but he's no where close.
 
I really like Mookie Betts, but what are the Sox going to do with him? Rusney Castillo in Center, pedroia at 2nd? Where could he play? same for JBJ.
 
a few of the baseball games were wild lastnight felt like all the ones i bet

yankees - down 4-3 going into bottom 9th, 2 HR in bottom 9th to win with a walkoff (was worried about this game as they were down whole game pretty much) yankees win 5-4

Orioles - start up 7-2 going into top 6th ( Cincy scores 1, then top 7th scores another 4 to tie) at this point im like nah this cant be serious. ( Bottom 7th the Os score 2 Runs) 
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 and never looked back. Os win 9-7 

Tigers - Another game that started off great. 4 runs in the first, Indians start a comeback, now its tied in the bottom 7th. Score stayed the same till top 11th. tiger put up 7 Runs and win 11-4 
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Mariners - Just blew the Ranger out, It was 9-1 after 3.

deff an intense night
 
I can't lie, watching that Rays/Yanks game live...Yanks beat the piss out of them for 5 innings and then WHAM, just like that extras :lol: I was excited for the 50 Rays fans there.

And all these fraudulent reporters crying on ESPN "THE YANKEES ARE INTENTIONALLY LOSING TO KEEP THE RED SOX OUT". Peter Gammons on TV looking like someone shot his dog moaning "It doesn't matter that the Yankees are aging and they want to prepare for the playoffs. It's about integrity."

Then they all get called out on it the next day :lol:
 
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I can't lie, watching that Rays/Yanks game live...Yanks beat the piss out of them for 5 innings and then WHAM, just like that extras :lol: I was excited for the 50 Rays fans there.

And all these fraudulent reporters crying on ESPN "THE YANKEES ARE INTENTIONALLY LOSING TO KEEP THE RED SOX OUT". Peter Gammons on TV looking like someone shot his dog moaning "It doesn't matter that the Yankees are aging and they want to prepare for the playoffs. It's about integrity."

Then they all get called out on it the next day :lol:

:lol: u ain't lying...Trop is Yankee Stadium, South.

I mean, yall got Aaron ******* Boone....to drop one in heartbreaking fashion was a win for all of us who enjoy seeing the Yankees struggle :lol:
 
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