2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

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I'm saying I couldn't give two ***** less about a discussion about something so incredibly arbitrary and subjective.
that make sense, but doesn't remotely correlate with what you initially said. Anyways, it's a conversation ... That's the beauty, what you see as subjective can open eyes ...

Example Clemens .. He was vital for the Yankees, but what Cap he's wearing?
 
Won't matter Clemens ain't getting into the hall for fifty years :lol:

Didn't Vlad used to hit bottle caps with a broom stick growing up? Amazing story that guy has. So happy he was able to have the prolific career he did.
 
Won't matter Clemens ain't getting into the hall for fifty years :lol:

Didn't Vlad used to hit bottle caps with a broom stick growing up? Amazing story that guy has. So happy he was able to have the prolific career he did.
That's BS .. Clemes, Bonds, etc deserve to get in. Frank talk about at arbitrary and subjective ... ****
 
I agree with you although I hate Clemens. They all should get in and we move on. Sellig let them get away wih that stuff. Same with Pete Rose at this point. Just put them all in and we move on.
 
I didn't mention Pete because he was betting on games, but I so agree. What he did after his playing career was done should have no bearing on what he did on the field. He should be allowed to be inducted in the HOF even if he has a lifetime band. I however, dont think his band should be lifted. It can give others the idea that the type of band is going to be temporary.
 
It's a slippery slope with Rose and I understand why he may never get in and it's fine. But man, screw it, let's just move on. He Prob won't ever get in which is fine, but those steroid players definitely deserve eventual inductions. Bonds was one of the bests ever.
 
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Never change Bartolo, never change :lol:
 
I go back and forth on Pete. He broke the 'Cardinal rule'.

Amazes me how Cincy forgives him so quick when he embarrassed them by denying (and they all vehemently agreed) and when it came to sell a book he told the truth
 
It's a slippery slope with Rose and I understand why he may never get in and it's fine. But man, screw it, let's just move on. He Prob won't ever get in which is fine, but those steroid players definitely deserve eventual inductions. Bonds was one of the bests ever.
bonds pre steroids was a sure hall of famer. Dude was constantly hitting over 300, stealing bases and hitting HR 30/30's and 2 40/40, great defender etc ... I remember the pirates outfield Bonds, VanSlick and Bonilla ... **** was sick .. The Bonilla went to the mets .. lmao ..
 
Anyone read Pete's book? I have it but I buy books and never read them. Gotta start Pedro's and get through it.

I always say Bonds pre balco was a hofer. After balco he became an immortal. That bat speed was unstoppable. He had an amazing eye at the plate to begin with but once he went God mode that obp became ridiculous. I remember him being walked with the bases loaded :lol:
 
Rose should be in and so should every steriod guy especially Bonds.


They wanna act like dudes ain't been on amphetamines and the like since the beginning of baseball.

Bonds still one of the best hitters regardless, Rose especially.
 
Anyone read Pete's book? I have it but I buy books and never read them. Gotta start Pedro's and get through it.

I always say Bonds pre balco was a hofer. After balco he became an immortal. That bat speed was unstoppable. He had an amazing eye at the plate to begin with but once he went God mode that obp became ridiculous. I remember him being walked with the bases loaded :lol:

My parents bought it for me... Never opened it :lol:

One day, one day.
 
Rose should be in and so should every steriod guy especially Bonds.


They wanna act like dudes ain't been on amphetamines and the like since the beginning of baseball.

Bonds still one of the best hitters regardless, Rose especially.

Reps for truth
 
Tragedy Rose isn't in but I think his day will come soon. Just hope he isn't dead before it happens :smh:

He's gonna be an analyst on fox right?
 
Tragedy Rose isn't in but I think his day will come soon. Just hope he isn't dead before it happens :smh:

He's gonna be an analyst on fox right?
it is, but what he did was also a f up. I think this is MLB making him pay.

Again, the band shouldnt be lifted, but it shouldnt be the excuse to not vote him in. That's bs ...
 
As much as people want to hate on Alex, I think he had a valid argument ...Dude had a ridiculous contract and was under pressure to performed. He used steroids to perform ...

But yes, put him in put all of them in ... This is the era they played ... F it
 
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