2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

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beating the Braves doesn't warrant a "the way the Nats are playing" 
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^ Pretty much. This team has choked when it mattered most all year. Matt Williams at the helm will continue to **** us.
 
I'd love to re-sign Cespedes but I understand that's not happening and I can live with it. Because all along, getting him was about trying to win this year. Now the supposed ace wants to worry about 3 years from now than the moment, even though he's complained for months about not pitching enough.
 
I want everyone to take a step back, and just think about how logically flawed an innings limit is.

At least little league baseball gives kids pitch limits and not innings limits :lol:





The pitch breakdown is a better metric, but all pitches aren't created equal either since different pitches put a little different stress in different parts of the arm.
 
So then you all figure this the high point for Mets baseball for the foreseeable future even with such a monstrous pitching staff.
 
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So then you all figure this the high point for Mets baseball for the foreseeable future even with such a monstrous pitching staff.
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basically yes, which is why I'm frustrated. they made numerous moves to cash their chips and try to win it all this year. every trade made was for a rental (except Addison Reed, but he doesn't count really).
 
Gotcha. At the very least they recognize they have something brewing in an extremely small window so why not capitalize on it now.
 
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I've been trying to dig into this, is the 180 innings limit from Dr. Andrews or Boras? I read an article that said Andrews recommended 180 innings, and another that said Boras and his team set their own guidelines.

If it's docs orders can't really argue that, any other reason then SMH. Unless he's feeling any discomfort, good to go
 
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I've been trying to dig into this, is the 180 innings limit from Dr. Andrews or Boras? I read an article that said Andrews recommended 180 innings, and another that said Boras and his team set their own guidelines.

If it's docs orders can't really argue that, any other reason then SMH. Unless he's feeling any discomfort, good to go
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It's Boras and his sample size study of 4 pitchers :lol:
 
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It's Boras and his sample size study of 4 pitchers :lol:
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:lol: So the other articles I read were inaccurate and Harvey is a mental ******. Got it.

at the 180 mark, as Boras said was the wish of orthopedist James Andrews (who performed Harvey’s October 2013 surgery). The Mets, in this battle of “He said, they said” with Boras, assert they have utilized guidelines, rather than a hard-innings limit, with Harvey and have received no such mandate from Andrews.
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http://nypost.com/2015/09/05/boras-harvey-alderson-turmoil-was-inevitable-but-is-more-to-come/
 
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:lol: there is no scientific answer, even if you did a retrospective study of every TJ surgery every pitcher is different at best you could try to pick up trends. That said, unless he's feeling discomfort, good to go.
 
Flores is that dude. I can't wait to see him reach full potential. It's going to be fun.
Cespedes is too good for the NL. 13 home run in 33 games. So ridiculous.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...babying-pitchers-doesn-work-article-1.1730546

I don't usually believe anything from NY Daily News but Bill Madden is really a good sportswriter. He's a member of Baseball Writers Association of America.

“It’s because pitchers simply don’t throw as much as we did,” Ryan replied, matter-of-factly. “That’s the real issue here. When I pitched, we pitched every fourth day and guys would pitch 300 innings and it wasn’t considered a big deal. If you don’t get on the mound and develop stamina, you’re risking injury. This whole thing with the 100-pitch count limit — I have a real problem with that. Pitchers are all different and when you put standard limitations on them, you’re not utilizing their talent.”
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“I absolutely agree with Nolan that more is better,” John said. “Years ago, I’d have gone along with the thinking that there’s only so many bullets in your arm. But we’ve ‘dumbed down’ our thinking today to believing that pitch counts and innings limitations are the way to go to preserve arms. Starting in 1975 with the White Sox, when Johnny Sain was my pitching coach, I would throw six days a week out of seven and it was the best my arm ever felt. For the next 13 years, I never missed a start, except once when I had the flu. Sain believed in throwing between starts and it’s no coincidence that one of his disciples, Leo Mazzone, subscribed to that same philosophy, practicing and throwing every day, as pitching coach for the Braves. The Braves had the best pitching staffs in baseball in the ’90s and all guys like (Greg) Maddux and (Tom) Glavine did was pitch and win and never got hurt.”
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Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka 21m21 minutes ago
23rd HR for Kris Bryant. 16 of those 23 have either tied the game or given #Cubs the lead.

Captain Clutch

Jon (NUHighlights) ‏@itsjondavis 19m19 minutes ago
Kris Bryant just did this. This is where it hit the video board.
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