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here we go with the cheating accusations
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here we go with the cheating accusations


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here's a vine of Lester using the substance. - https://vine.co/v/hpAnrTTIXLE

he deserves to be fined and suspended for a very long time
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my question is, if they find Lester was cheating, what happens? Do they replay the game or what? 

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It's a chunk of grass/dirt... And that glove is ******g awesome...
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It's a chunk of grass/dirt... And that glove is ******g awesome...

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we'll see if the league does anything or if that's inconclusive evidence. without knowing what that spot on his glove is....can't come out and cry about him cheating though.

in regard to lester, i would hope he didn't cheat. and i would hope he's not dumb enough to actually cheat using a neon green substance that is in plain view. it's way too obvious and he cannot be that dumb. interested to find out if the league presses him for what's on that glove. vaseline doesn't make sense and pine tar wouldn't be that color. so i wonder what it is.
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Inconclusive evidence, certainly nothing as obvious as Kenny Rogers circa 2006, but enough to make you wonder. It's probably worth noting that Lester's counterpart, Adam Wainwright, didn't exactly deny doctoring the ball during an interview last summer. Lots of guys do it.


as OKB pointed out...this is a non story. stop your whining
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**** I forgot about Rogers laugh.gif

Cardinals complain like they played a 1-0 game. I understand it but still.

I agree. Just move along to game 2 at ths point. Boston's bats jumped all over Wainwright. What they do now is have Lester's glove inspected before he pitches in his second game this series.

Yup. They couldn't even prove Buchholz was doing it and it was WAY more obvious he was doing something shady.
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Suspend him??!! Y'all are crazy, that'll never happen.

baseball is generally permissive towards doctoring the ball, remember, Tony LaRussa didn't even accuse Kenny, he just hit with the "hey bruh..uh, its the world series cmon son, wipe your hand and lets keep it moving." laugh.gif

Im pretty sure they asked LaRussa after the game what it was about and he was like, im not talking about it, I told i saw something that I wanted stopped and he stopped it.

To most baseball players doctoring the ball is like half a step above stealing signs.



Kenny Rogers fyi a guy with low strikeout numbers, but also pretty high walks, who always managed to out perform his KK/BB numbers and induce weak contact consistently....hmnmmmmmmm???


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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

Gaylord Perry is in the hall, pitchers back in the day doctored the ball with impunity. Kenny Rogers did it in the world series, cheating is en grained in the culture of baseball.

This why steroid anger is hilariously stupid.

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Red Sox have a few cheaters in that clubhouse.
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Ah the Cards...c'mon. laugh.gif
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Red Sox have a few cheaters in that clubhouse.

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Lester is a pile of ****. They can't do anything about it. Game is over. They'll check his glove next start though. If they would have caught him during the game he would have been ejected. That's it.


Anyone been listening to the MLB vs Alex case? Wow. Baseball is looking pretty bad
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the classic 'caught red handed' - introducing Joe Niekro, younger brother of HOFer Phil...


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back before babe ruth & the beginnning of the home-run era, sometimes 1 baseball would be used for the entire game (as opposed to 100+ these days!)

fans were even made to throw back hr's to recycle the ball...



so apparently, by the 7th or 8th inning back then...the baseball resembled a rotten orange being throw as pitchers would tobacco spit-ball through the whole game.

also- the ball would become so dark & spin so recklessly - batters couldn't see it well after peek sunlight hours of the day & many strikeouts occurred in late-afternoon games that probably would have been hits otherwise


quit a difference between then and now (or is it?)
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here's a vine of Lester using the substance. - https://vine.co/v/hpAnrTTIXLE

he deserves to be fined and suspended for a very long time

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I did laugh out loud.

 

You must not watch enough baseball.

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Cheating in baseball...

There's cheating in sports period, baseball and football are the worst offenders, laugh.gif. I love both, laugh.gif

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." If you played organized sports, you have heard that multiple times. Unless you played your entire life in orange slices and participation trophies leagues. laugh.gif

It is what it is, tough for the Cards, they should've done what La Russa did.

Anyways, glove had nothing to do with the Cards ******** the bed (three errors) and Wainwright getting rocked. Stop focusing on the glove and try to steal game 2.
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Rogers did it against the A's in the '06 ALCS, too. ****ing bum.
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Using pine tar helps the pitcher grip the ball, just like rosin does. So I have no problem with a pitcher using pine tar, even if it is illegal. 

 

On the other hand, if he was using Vaseline or mullet grease (like Buchholz), that is completely different. The movement that can be gained from those substances is substantially different.  

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Yea but it makes the ball more slippery...you're not trying to do that this time of year I'd imagine.

Plus, did Lester really look like he had above average movement? He really looked like the same old Lester laugh.gif

Some Cardinals fans and most Yankees fans seem to be the only one calling for his head laugh.gif
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As a Yankee fan, it's my duty to take cheap shots at the Red Sox. laugh.gif
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Yea but it makes the ball more slippery...you're not trying to do that this time of year I'd imagine.

Plus, did Lester really look like he had above average movement? He really looked like the same old Lester laugh.gif

Some Cardinals fans and most Yankees fans seem to be the only one calling for his head laugh.gif

if you're talking about pine tar, it does not make the ball more slippery. It gives you a stickier more tacky grip. 

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my question is, if they find Lester was cheating, what happens? Do they replay the game or what?

 

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if you're talking about pine tar, it does not make the ball more slippery. It gives you a stickier more tacky grip. 

you can't put pin tar on a baseball, it can effect breaking *******, thats why its against the rules.

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As a Yankee fan, it's my duty to take cheap shots at the Red Sox. laugh.gif

I hear you laugh.gif I want em to lose without all this controversy, let it sting.

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if you're talking about pine tar, it does not make the ball more slippery. It gives you a stickier more tacky grip.

Was talking about Vaseline.
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