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He wanted to watch his idol play in person one last time.

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Finish the road trip 6-4...I'll take it.

Baltimore Orioles...we here pimp.gif

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Just saw Chris Archer's comments on David Ortiz...he didn't pull any punches.

[Stephen A. Smith] HOWEVA [/Stephen A. Smith], if you REALLY have this much of a problem with Ortiz acting like an *** while on the field, as a pitcher, take the **** into your own hands during the game.
Papi said "Players today are too sensitive." Funny coming from a guy who is always complaining about something...official scorers, balls and strikes, David Price, etc.

Loved that bat flip though pimp.gif

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If he did that while I was pitching, he woulda found me waiting for him at first base without my glove on.

That's an automatic drill in the back the next two plate appearances.
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Baseball players can be fans too. I don't know. laugh.gif

I feel like he did it to piss off the Rockies and knew that by showing up, the media would create a firestorm out of it, possibly further pushing Colorado's hand. That's definitely an assumption on my part though.
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post #24964 of 77292
It's a huge news in NY that Yankees fans want him ASAP but they don't want to give up Bettances lol they're greedy fans
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The Braves mustered one run in 6 and a third against former Astros OF great Jason Lane sick.gif
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I really like what I've seen from Betances. I think Tulo is gonna cost too much. You take on the contract and have to give up 2-3 players.


Did Showtime have another baseball show this year? I can't remember what it was called but it was like Hard Knocks.
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The Braves mustered one run in 6 and a third against former Astros OF great Jason Lane sick.gif

And we won smile.gif you revived Gattis offense spark he won another game for Braves El Oso Blanco pimp.gif
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laugh.gif hey man, I have no problem admitting I was wrong about that. Hitting better, getting on base and actually not embarrassing himself behind the plate.
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Carlos Santana Doesn’t Care For Balls In Play.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
In a series of three GIFs from Friday night’s baseballing match between the Indians of Cleveland and the Royals of Kansas City, I’ll attempt to visually encapsulate Carlos Santana‘s 2014 season to date:
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In the second inning, Santana hit his team-leading 18th home run. Later in that very long second inning, Santana drew his MLB-leading 72nd walk. In the ninth, he struck out for the 87th time. Thus became the sixth game this season in which Carlos Santana had at-bats end in all three true outcomes (walk, strikeout, home run). Only Giancarlo Stanton, with eight, has had more TTO games than Santana.

The next day, Santana hit two more bombs and drew another walk. He didn’t strike out, but he did raise his TTO percentage to 43%. That is to say, nearly half the time Carlos Santana has come to the plate this season, he’s either struck out, walked or hit a dinger. That’s quickly approaching Adam Dunn territory, and Adam Dunn is the King of the TTO. In fact, only Dunn, Stanton, George Springer, Chris Davis, Chris Carter and Mike Napoli have a higher TTO% than Santana this year. Difference is, these are all notorious TTO guys. Dunn’s career TTO% is 51%. Everyone knew Springer was going to be a TTO guy. Davis, Carter, Napoli and Stanton all sit between 44-46% for their careers. Prior to this season, 36% of Carlos Santana’s plate appearances ended in a strikeout, walk or homer, which is still high, but not extraordinary high like it is now. This is somewhat of a new thing for Carlos Santana.

The whole season has been somewhat of a strange one for Carlos Santana.

It was announced in Spring Training that Santana would take over as the Indians everyday third baseman. Not only did that not work out (kind of), Santana struggled mightily at the plate (kind of).

On April 11, in just the 11th game of the season, Santana’s average dipped below .200. A month later, it was at .148. A month after that, it was .178. It wasn’t until June 21 that Santana got his average back above .200. Yet he always remained hovering around league-average production thanks to his rare combination of discipline and power. During this “slump”, some wanted him benched. Others wondered if he should be demoted to Triple-A. His name started to pop up as an expendable piece in trade rumors.

Over the last month or so, Santana has been one of the hottest hitters in baseball, but still his average rests at just .232. He’s still striking out more than ever. Yet, thanks to a career-high .224 isolated slugging percentage and .371 on-base percentage, Santana is having the best offensive season of his career. His .368 wOBA and 138 wRC+ would both be single-season highs since becoming an everyday player in 2010. He’s hitting for more power than ever while also getting on base as often as ever. That’s the best possible combination of outcomes for a hitter, regardless of what batting average might lead you to believe.

Not only is Santana having the best offensive season of his career while hitting under .235, he might finish with one of the best offensive seasons of all-time under .235. According to ZiPS, Santana is projected to finish the season with a batting average of .233 and an OPS+ of 131. Since the liva ball era began nearly a hundred years ago in 1920, only five different players have posted an OPS+ north of 130 with a batting average south of .235. Carlos Pena did it most recently in 2009. Jack Cust did it in 2008. Before that, you have to go back 18 years to Mark McGwire‘s 1990 season. Gene Tenace did it three times in the 70′s. Harmon Killebrew did it in 1972 and Mel Ott in 1943. Even if Santana doesn’t end up quite meeting the exact criteria, it’s clear he’s in bizarrely historic company this season.

Even stranger is that there doesn’t appear to be much else out of line with Santana at the plate. There’s nothing different in the way he’s being pitched. He’s hitting both fastballs and offspeed pitches about the same as ever. He’s swinging at the same amount of pitches within the strike zone. He’s making contact at career levels. His batted ball mix has stayed consistent. The only real noticeable differences that sticks out is his career-high HR/FB%, backed by an average fly ball distance of 285 feet, up 11 feet from last season. If anything, given Santana’s spike in homers and strikeouts with no other significant changes, it seems like Santana might just be selling out for power. And selling out for power would make sense given Santana’s situation – the way he’s played defensively and the result it’s had on his batting average. Santana hits into the shift more often than most players in baseball and, as a result, is hitting just .200 on ground balls, well below the league average. Hitting home runs is one way to negate the effect of a shift, and Santana has helped make up for the lack of singles with an increase in his already-elite walk rate.

“But guys who walk a lot don’t drive anyone in!” Well first, two of Santana’s walks this season actually have driven runners in, so it’s not like it’s impossible. But if you’re really of the crowd that places the value of driving in runs over creating runs, Santana’s spike in power has allowed him to drive in runs as often as ever, with his projected 74 RBI falling right in line with totals of 74, 76 and 79 from years past.

Engaging Twitter user Nick W. Schaller also pointed out to me that Santana has improved his baserunning this season by five runs already, becoming an above-league average baserunner after being one of the very worst in the league the last two years. Most notably, Santana is scoring from second base on singles 86% of the time after doing so just 45% of the time prior.

Despite a batting average below .240, Carlos Santana is undoubtedly putting together the best season of his already-impressive young offensive career. His career-high power output is coupled with a league-best walk rate that gives him an elite on-base percentage. His spike in power production has him driving in runs as often as ever while a more aggressive and efficient approach on the bases has him scoring runs as often as ever. He’s creating, driving in and manufacturing runs in every facet of the game. There’s really no arguing with the production Santana has brought to the Indians lineup this season.

If you really needed more proof that batting average doesn’t mean a thing, look no further than what Carlos Santana is doing this year.
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Pro or others question?

Is a Syndergaard for Tulo trade a horrible idea?

Mets just desperately need another hitter to be able to contend for the division next year and with DeGrom emerging this year and Harvey slated to return next year, I can't help but think it would at least be worth entertaining although the switch from Coors to Citi terrifies me?
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Carlos Santana Doesn’t Care For Balls In Play.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
In a series of three GIFs from Friday night’s baseballing match between the Indians of Cleveland and the Royals of Kansas City, I’ll attempt to visually encapsulate Carlos Santana‘s 2014 season to date:
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2



3



In the second inning, Santana hit his team-leading 18th home run. Later in that very long second inning, Santana drew his MLB-leading 72nd walk. In the ninth, he struck out for the 87th time. Thus became the sixth game this season in which Carlos Santana had at-bats end in all three true outcomes (walk, strikeout, home run). Only Giancarlo Stanton, with eight, has had more TTO games than Santana.

The next day, Santana hit two more bombs and drew another walk. He didn’t strike out, but he did raise his TTO percentage to 43%. That is to say, nearly half the time Carlos Santana has come to the plate this season, he’s either struck out, walked or hit a dinger. That’s quickly approaching Adam Dunn territory, and Adam Dunn is the King of the TTO. In fact, only Dunn, Stanton, George Springer, Chris Davis, Chris Carter and Mike Napoli have a higher TTO% than Santana this year. Difference is, these are all notorious TTO guys. Dunn’s career TTO% is 51%. Everyone knew Springer was going to be a TTO guy. Davis, Carter, Napoli and Stanton all sit between 44-46% for their careers. Prior to this season, 36% of Carlos Santana’s plate appearances ended in a strikeout, walk or homer, which is still high, but not extraordinary high like it is now. This is somewhat of a new thing for Carlos Santana.

The whole season has been somewhat of a strange one for Carlos Santana.

It was announced in Spring Training that Santana would take over as the Indians everyday third baseman. Not only did that not work out (kind of), Santana struggled mightily at the plate (kind of).

On April 11, in just the 11th game of the season, Santana’s average dipped below .200. A month later, it was at .148. A month after that, it was .178. It wasn’t until June 21 that Santana got his average back above .200. Yet he always remained hovering around league-average production thanks to his rare combination of discipline and power. During this “slump”, some wanted him benched. Others wondered if he should be demoted to Triple-A. His name started to pop up as an expendable piece in trade rumors.

Over the last month or so, Santana has been one of the hottest hitters in baseball, but still his average rests at just .232. He’s still striking out more than ever. Yet, thanks to a career-high .224 isolated slugging percentage and .371 on-base percentage, Santana is having the best offensive season of his career. His .368 wOBA and 138 wRC+ would both be single-season highs since becoming an everyday player in 2010. He’s hitting for more power than ever while also getting on base as often as ever. That’s the best possible combination of outcomes for a hitter, regardless of what batting average might lead you to believe.

Not only is Santana having the best offensive season of his career while hitting under .235, he might finish with one of the best offensive seasons of all-time under .235. According to ZiPS, Santana is projected to finish the season with a batting average of .233 and an OPS+ of 131. Since the liva ball era began nearly a hundred years ago in 1920, only five different players have posted an OPS+ north of 130 with a batting average south of .235. Carlos Pena did it most recently in 2009. Jack Cust did it in 2008. Before that, you have to go back 18 years to Mark McGwire‘s 1990 season. Gene Tenace did it three times in the 70′s. Harmon Killebrew did it in 1972 and Mel Ott in 1943. Even if Santana doesn’t end up quite meeting the exact criteria, it’s clear he’s in bizarrely historic company this season.

Even stranger is that there doesn’t appear to be much else out of line with Santana at the plate. There’s nothing different in the way he’s being pitched. He’s hitting both fastballs and offspeed pitches about the same as ever. He’s swinging at the same amount of pitches within the strike zone. He’s making contact at career levels. His batted ball mix has stayed consistent. The only real noticeable differences that sticks out is his career-high HR/FB%, backed by an average fly ball distance of 285 feet, up 11 feet from last season. If anything, given Santana’s spike in homers and strikeouts with no other significant changes, it seems like Santana might just be selling out for power. And selling out for power would make sense given Santana’s situation – the way he’s played defensively and the result it’s had on his batting average. Santana hits into the shift more often than most players in baseball and, as a result, is hitting just .200 on ground balls, well below the league average. Hitting home runs is one way to negate the effect of a shift, and Santana has helped make up for the lack of singles with an increase in his already-elite walk rate.

“But guys who walk a lot don’t drive anyone in!” Well first, two of Santana’s walks this season actually have driven runners in, so it’s not like it’s impossible. But if you’re really of the crowd that places the value of driving in runs over creating runs, Santana’s spike in power has allowed him to drive in runs as often as ever, with his projected 74 RBI falling right in line with totals of 74, 76 and 79 from years past.

Engaging Twitter user Nick W. Schaller also pointed out to me that Santana has improved his baserunning this season by five runs already, becoming an above-league average baserunner after being one of the very worst in the league the last two years. Most notably, Santana is scoring from second base on singles 86% of the time after doing so just 45% of the time prior.

Despite a batting average below .240, Carlos Santana is undoubtedly putting together the best season of his already-impressive young offensive career. His career-high power output is coupled with a league-best walk rate that gives him an elite on-base percentage. His spike in power production has him driving in runs as often as ever while a more aggressive and efficient approach on the bases has him scoring runs as often as ever. He’s creating, driving in and manufacturing runs in every facet of the game. There’s really no arguing with the production Santana has brought to the Indians lineup this season.

If you really needed more proof that batting average doesn’t mean a thing, look no further than what Carlos Santana is doing this year.
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As much grief as I give Tulo for this year, he usually has pretty even home/road splits. I think you make that trade 10 times outta 10.

But when it comes to the Mets, I don't think they should do anything until Collins and the Wilpons are out of commission. They'll screw it all up, I'm convinced of that.
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Damn I really wish the athletics would of picked up Barney. They sure need him
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I'll throw up on command if Betances is traded for Tulo.
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I wouldn't give you Tulowitzki for 10 Betances'.
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I'm inclined to dislike Red Sox's but baseball players who strive to entertain like Papi and Manny will always be my favourite. pimp.gif

So boohoo Chris Archer, don't throw meatballs to one of the greatest power hitters of the last decade. laugh.gif
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i hate baseball's unwritten rules and 'respect for the game' bs
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For me it's not about respect for the game, it's flat out, don't show us up like that, then ***** like a lil girl whenever someone does somethin you don't like, which Ortiz is known to do.

If that was #500 or something, or like Bonds hitting #73, etc, wanna dance a lil, I'm good with that.

He almost took 10 seconds to get to first base man. laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif


I'm fine with him doin that. Just like he gonna be fine when I drill him in the back the next two at bats. pimp.gif
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I'm with CP on this one. Not big on beaning guys, but when you hotdog it like that or worse, get ready to duck. The one thing that pisses me off the most though is these dudes that wanna charge the mound or talk **** when a pitch gets away from the hurler and plunks them. Not the ones that are going straight for their spine, but the breaking balls/cutters/2 seamers/etc that run in too much and get away from the pitcher.

I rather keep Thor than trade him for Tulo since that contract is atrocious. And he's 30 and has been injury prone..
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no problem with Ortiz bat flipping and strutting...and no problem if he gets beaned for it either
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Hey we got Danny Valencia WATCH OUT BALTIMORE.



good trade need someone who can hit left handed pitching, we can take B-more we got a bunch of games against them at the end I think.
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I know money talks but why would you sign
a long term deal knowing that they aren't a winning franchise.
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Ego. Thinking your the guy to single-handedly change the winning culture in an organization.
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Tulo isn't going to the Mets. They won't take that contract and won't give up enough players.


I like players doing the bat flip but I'm tired of Ortiz and all his antics. Especially after all the crying and whining he does. When you got Joe Torre telling you to stop whining, it's time to be quiet and just play.
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I wouldn't say it's his ego. He couldn't have foreseen how atrocious Colorado would have run everything into the ground the last few years. I'm guessing he thought him and Cargo could carry the load. I can't stress enough how horrific that franchise has been run since they made the series. From A ball to the majors.
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Red Sox are raw
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Brett Gardner hits his second homer of the night off Darvish, Darvish just laughs.
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Drew Storen has been pure filth this year. Love to see him bounce back like this.
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Good start for the Bucs


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