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Mariners.
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Mariners.

pulling for the M's since my team is all but done
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pulling for the M's since my team is all but done

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pulling for the M's since my team is all but done

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Tito would be ashamed of you.

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i meant in the playoffs (assuming the M's make it). sorry to say, my friend...but i don't think the tribe will be playing in october
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Delabar may never pitch in the majors again, no confidence in him.

Drabek, the history of guys with two Tommy Johns is not good, no expeirence coming out of the bullpen.

Drabek has pitched out of the pen before. Not much, but he has.
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Unless they clone 4 more Klubers I would have to agree mean.gif
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Manny Machado's right knee... sick.gif

My very uneducated guess - ACL tear.
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Manny Machado's right knee... sick.gif

My very uneducated guess - ACL tear.

I think so too. My joint snapped just like that.
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Love baseball, but man, I can't stand these payroll figures.

A league where one team's annual payroll is $44 million, while another's is $235 million. Reformation needed, penalties aren't reform.
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Love baseball, but man, I can't stand these payroll figures.

A league where one team's annual payroll is $44 million, while another's is $235 million. Reformation needed, penalties aren't reform.


It's incredibly frustrating. Sports are one of the very few industries where I want the free market suppressed (or completely open it up and let teams do what is best for them. This will NEVER happen though)
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It's incredibly frustrating. Sports are one of the very few industries where I want the free market suppressed (or completely open it up and let teams do what is best for them. This will NEVER happen though)
The blow will be lessened when the Pirates win a WS within the next 5 years. Led by Cole, Cutch, Taillon, Polanco, Marte.
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I'd still bet good money Kansas City misses the playoffs. Unless someone other than Gordon and Cain hit. Or who knows, maybe Shields/Guthrie/Ventura/Duffy really are this good.

*prays for Ned Yost to be Ned Yost*
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I'd still bet good money Kansas City misses the playoffs. Unless someone other than Gordon and Cain hit. Or who knows, maybe Shields/Guthrie/Ventura/Duffy really are this good.

*prays for Ned Yost to be Ned Yost*

Unfortunately, I would too.

 

Hot teams get cold and cold teams get hot so fast in baseball.

 

Billy Butler has been playing A LOT better but I don't know how long that can last...the pitching staff will continue to do their thing...but the offense has to keep it up. We will see. The end of their schedule is extremely easy.

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Love baseball, but man, I can't stand these payroll figures.

A league where one team's annual payroll is $44 million, while another's is $235 million. Reformation needed, penalties aren't reform.


It's incredibly frustrating. Sports are one of the very few industries where I want the free market suppressed (or completely open it up and let teams do what is best for them. This will NEVER happen though)

You'll have to take that up with the owners then laugh.gif it's not like the Marlins or the Mets don't spend because they can't spend. Teams have the ability to spend and do what is best for them. But, you have owners like Loria and the Wilpons who are not concerned with putting good ball clubs out on the field and are just taking advantage of fans/cities/tax breaks to earn huge check.

Might come off sounding like a homer but I don't think it is justifiable to blame a team like the Yankees or Boston or the Dodgers because their ownership will spend whatever it takes on the free agent market and on the international market to win AND they have the TV deal money to spend willingly. Some teams see a deal like the Joe Mauer deal working out so poorly and decide to not ever spend that kind of money again. Other teams have a deal like CC or A-Rod on their books but their philosophy is not to rebuild from the bottom up.

Another reason those teams payrolls are so tiny compared to others is that they don't scout and pay talent internationally.
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Most of these teams choose to be cheap. Mets, Marlins, Brewers and so on. Luxury Tax is hard enough on the big spending teams.
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Teams are not freely able to move, they are bound to the market size they are in. Some choose to spend less but don't act like it is an open and even playing field, it is not. Hence why I said completely open it up or go the NFL route to maximize the success of the league

MLB has barriers up on these teams on a variety of items except spending (unless you count the tax but I don't know if that discourages 'bad' contracts)
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I read somewhere that verlander has never been on the DL? eek.gif if true
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I read somewhere that verlander has never been on the DL? eek.gif if true
JV has never missed a start because of health issue. Pirates game was his shortest start since '08 against the Yanks.

Leyland ran him into the ground, Upton a distraction, or is he just washed?
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Sorry of discussed but the 2015 all star logo with Mr Redlegs looming like a shadow is amazing. Well done MLB/Cincy marketing
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Any explanation as to why Verlander all of a sudden, sucks?
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Any explanation as to why Verlander all of a sudden, sucks?
Decreased velocity and decline in his curveball.
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Any explanation as to why Verlander all of a sudden, sucks?
Decreased velocity and decline in his curveball.

Was it a steady decline? Meaning, did anyone see this coming? He's been a fantastic pitcher for the past 5-7 years and all of a sudden the wheels fall off? Jeez....
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If Kate Upton was my girl, I wouldn't have enough energy to even put my uniform on. I don't blame Justin one bit.
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@dmxfury You're right as well...I'm just gonna agree to disagree on some of the points.

I'm going to imagine that he's been hurt for at least 80% of the season so far. It's not just the velo dipping, it's the fact that he doesn't have the strength to even get to 95 anymore. Couple that with the low % of strikes he's throwing this season (command/control issue) and he's done for this season at least. A writer friend mentioned something to me about his erratic release points this season as well but I never looked into it.
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If Kate Upton was my girl, I wouldn't have enough energy to even put my uniform on. I don't blame Justin one bit.

He already has gifted MVP and now gets to nail that daily mean.gif
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Was it a steady decline? Meaning, did anyone see this coming? He's been a fantastic pitcher for the past 5-7 years and all of a sudden the wheels fall off? Jeez....
I personally didn't call it or see it coming. I suppose all good things come to an end, and all men eventually fall victim to some Shakespearean tragedy.
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If Kate Upton was my girl, I wouldn't have enough energy to even put my uniform on. I don't blame Justin one bit.
Dare I say overrated.
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@dmxfury You're right as well...I'm just gonna agree to disagree on some of the points.

I'm going to imagine that he's been hurt for at least 80% of the season so far. It's not just the velo dipping, it's the fact that he doesn't have the strength to even get to 95 anymore. Couple that with the low % of strikes he's throwing this season (command/control issue) and he's done for this season at least. A writer friend mentioned something to me about his erratic release points this season as well but I never looked into it.
In relation to his curve, it's hitting the strike zone 8% less than last year.
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Dare I say overrated.

Son....
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No doubt Pro and I did use a very simplified view. It just sucks when a small payroll or market team has to be so careful with contracts because one bad one can sink the franchise for years. No luxury of having that bad one and still able to compete and sign other guys
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Outside of her chest game, don't love her face.
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