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I honestly don't know what the rule would say about that play and if it was the correct call or not. I was just trolling to ruffle feathers.
 
I think the only reason the call was incorrect was because they called it in Otero. Obstruction should have been called on Moss.

The fact that Aybar intentionally created contact is irrelevant.
 
First to 80 wins :pimp:

The A's have been playing .500 baseball for about a month and a half. :smh:
 
So many players on the team slumping. Injuries too. But this team should be able to overcome that. We'll see what happens.
 
Dino has been absolutely garbage at the plate for a long time now. You can't have that hitting in the 5 hole now.
 
It's a bad call cause that 45' running lane is there for a reason. The fact he ran out of that lane into the pitcher, with the ball, makes aybar out. Now if he stay in the running lane and ran into the 1B instead, I'd agree with the interference.
 
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scout is a douche though 
 
I don't understand why people keep bringing up the running lane. You can run anywhere you want, but if you're hit by a thrown ball outside the lane, you're out. It simply has no relevance in the play last night.

The base runner has to the avoid defense players making a play on the ball, period. The fact he was awarded first base is a joke. Mlb is hiding behind "judgement" call.
 
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I don't understand why people keep bringing up the running lane. You can run anywhere you want, but if you're hit by a thrown ball outside the lane, you're out. It simply has no relevance in the play last night.

The base runner has to the avoid defense players making a play on the ball, period. The fact he was awarded first base is a joke. Mlb is hiding behind "judgement" call.
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Yes you can run anywhere you want, but once you start to path to a base, your running lane is a straight line to that bag. Whether you start on the foul line or from the on deck circle, you have to stay in that lane, aybar clearly ran out of this lane to create contact. Plus the fielder has a right to field the ball, which aybar interfered with. But if he stays in the running lane already painted on the basepath, this isn't an issue.
 
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Jewbacca said:
I don't understand why people keep bringing up the running lane. You can run anywhere you want, but if you're hit by a thrown ball outside the lane, you're out. It simply has no relevance in the play last night.

The base runner has to the avoid defense players making a play on the ball, period. The fact he was awarded first base is a joke. Mlb is hiding behind "judgement" call.
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Yes you can run anywhere you want, but once you start to path to a base, your running lane is a straight line to that bag. Whether you start on the foul line or from the on deck circle, you have to stay in that lane, aybar clearly ran out of this lane to create contact. Plus the fielder has a right to field the ball, which aybar interfered with. But if he stays in the running lane already painted on the basepath, this isn't an issue.
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Sorry sir, but this is incorrect.  Established baselines can change at any point (think run downs).  Once a baseline is established, the runner has three feet on either side of the line to work with. 

In this case, his established baseline was just inside the actual first base line.  He did not veer more than a foot or two to the fair side of the line.  The issue is not if he intentionally moved into the fielder or not.....its whether or not he was actually obstructed. 

Take a look at this picture here:

The established baseline is basically the edge of the grass. I haven't read any articles about this or anything, but Otero should not have been called with obstruction, because he is in possession of the ball.  Moss on the other hand is standing directly in the established baseline, and IF Aybar was forced to slow down at the time of this picture, obstruction absolutely could have been called.
 
I started typing out a long response, and then realized it wouldn't be worth it, but thank you haha
 
DLand makes a great case though. The judgement of that call is that if he kept running straight, he would've smacked into Moss. The reason people are upset with the call is because he hopped into Otero at the last moment, who was the one who happened to field the ball, which makes it seem like an easy call. However if he hops to the other side and gets clipped by Moss, the call of obstruction is probably a lot more clear.
 
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I'm sorry you can change your basepath at anytime. When the play is engaged as it was, running out of the base path is an out. You can run how ever when the ball is in the gap rounding first. But that ball was caught, the basepath is established.
And this is the reason the running lane is painted on the is painted 45 feet out. Don't ignore that fact too.
 
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Irrelevant.
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not really
 
In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball

is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or

inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing inter-

feres with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead;

except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three-foot line or inside (to the

left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;

Rule 6.05(k) Comment: The lines marking the three-foot lane are a part of that lane and a

batter-runner is required to have both feet within the three-foot lane or on the lines marking the lane.

The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach or slide in the

immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base.
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i mean thats why that 45 foot line is there.

but also when the pitcher had possession, aybar exited his established straight line bath path he created when the play was on. he went out of his way to run into the pitcher, plus the pitcher had the ball. moss never interfered because aybar moved left, and the pitcher had a right to be there.

im just in the camp that moss never obstructed the play.
 
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