Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

What's the Ruby .gif for? :nerd:
dbl post, don't read into it. :nerd: :lol:

But yeah, Synecdoche is so daunting/taxing. If you're going to watch it, you have to commit to it. I have tried revisiting three of four times, and after maybe eight minutes, I give up taking it in and thinking about what I know is coming and put on Knocked Up or some !+%* to attempt to clear my head.
Basically....when you watch it, it'll feel like one of the most profound, 'over your head, but still within reach' films you've seen.


Why does it seem like the same people are getting major roles in hollywood? I understand its obvious but like..how cant actors from shows like Entourage, Wire, etc...why doesnt the main characters on major shows get major movie deals?

You know when people say 'that show sucks' or 'the acting is bad,' about a TV show. A lot of the time, they're not really hating...they're just using an unfair scale to compare it to. Movies.

The actors of Entourage are all about 5'1 and all they're really asked to do is be themselves and play it cool. None of them seemed to really have deep dramatic chops where you'd think...alright, he's ready for something greater. They were all good, and a little iconic in their straightforward, "me with a twist" roles. It's just...this was probably their role of a lifetime and they'd have to get that lucky again for you to really see them again.

Think of it like this...had it not been for Entourage, would any of them have made it like they did?
Would you even know their names? Would they have been at all memorable if they showed up in other things first? Cuz it's not like they were new.

Money, hype, looks, talent. In some combination, that's it for all of them. The camera is harsh as ****. Big name movie people are a lot better looking than even you think they are. So if you don't have grab the room's attention looks, people have your looks burnt into their brains as being this one character, you can only get hype for playing that character, your voice, look and mannerisms are so particular that you always seem like that character, and you're not talented, lucky or watchable enough to breakthrough as another character...good luck getting a studio to throw real money at a project with you as the lead.

And yeah...people get typecasted. Sometimes when people have seen so much of you on the small screen, they don't want to pay to see you on the big screen in a less good role.

And those dudes did make enough money, that you could understand how they might lean back for a minute. I mean the show's only been gone a couple years.

But the one exception and standout was Piven. He could've made it to the next level (and he tried), but he tanked hard with The Goods.
That guy's been around since the 80s, and had strong Entourage hype, so that was basically his big shot at becoming a movie star.

You gotta be lucky and smart and get in with the right people. Lucky enough to capitalize on your hype, smart enough to do something good, and it woulda been nice if he knew Apatow and could've gotten into Superbad maybe, or Adam Sandler when he was a can't miss...or even a dramatic role. I mean The Goods was an Adam McKay & friends thing, so that's something. He could've made it like Vince Vaughan thing, but it sucked.

Plus, isn't Piven a notorious ******* in real life?

Actually, come to think of it...unless they really did just wanna lay low once the show was over, how bad of actors did these guys need to be, to have the mountain of connections a show like Entourage could give you, and to turn it into nothing.

With movies you gotta find unexpected things that blow up, or else you're trying to get the role over Bradley Cooper and Mark Wahlberg and all of them. And unlike you, they can guarantee more people than the ones who saw The Goods will show up for them. And they are better.

Film and TV is different. TV seems harder, cuz you only get a few takes a scene and you gotta crank out half a movie every week, whereas they get a month or more, a ton of preproduction, a big name director, the works. But film is more finessed than TV. I mean, there are exception like Breaking Bad (which is really just a long film), but with television, they scream everything at the audience. Everything's louder and bolder and blunter and more exaggerated and repetitive. And there's so much dialogue and plot that all they really need from most TV actors a lot of the time is your face, your voice and the exact same performance. Film, they need you to create something from scratch, make it watchable and worth paying to see and different.

I mean that's stardom. With TV...Adrian Grenier wasn't famous at all. Vincent Chase was. Ari Gold was famous. Johnny Bananas was who people liked.

A part of the allure of film is, you're in you're out, over in a couple hours. A character and performance can make you famous, but you're the star. Dwight Schrute was one of the biggest comedy stars of aughts. Rainn Wilson wasn't. Sheldon is one of the biggest comedy stars right now. Jim Parsons isn't. With movies, you can be a one-hit wonder, get buzz and be forgotten in a year. With tv, it doesn't seem like they're one-hit wonders, because there's a new episode every week and they're famous for years and years, but once it's over...You get lucky and smart like Jennifer Aniston, or you get like everybody else from Friends. I mean...who rose up outta The Sopranos?

The thing is, their characters are the stars. They're just the people we wish were their characters, so when they try to be someone else...good luck, hope you knew the right people and made a smart, timely decision. And when they try to do the same thing as on TV, all people will think is...ehhhh...doesn't look nearly as good as his/her tv character, and I can watch that for free. Or worse...to try not to get typecasted, they'll go their other way. If they're a villain on TV, they'll try to be the hero. If they funny, they'll try to be serious, and just put people who think they know them off from the go.

Taylor Kitsch was lucky and timely...but he wasn't good and he got in with the wrong people. He's not this bad, but he isn't a big charisma guy. He's a speak softly and brood guy. That guy can't be the lead in your summer action movie, especially if it's terrible like Battleship. So few people watched Friday Night Lights, that he didn't get typecasted as Riggins...but he got miscasted as hell.

Just scrolled up. :smh:...I gotta stop doing this. :lol:

cliffs...Movie actors get famous. TV actors don't really get famous, their character does.
They gotta get lucky, smart, good and get in with the right people to jump up to movies.
 
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Don't you dare stop doing that. :lol: This is your playground.

Good point on Aniston, but I have to ask, how? It's not just luck. She has one hell of a resume in terms of she has very few bombs. Everything she does is watchable. And our of all of the Friends, she's the most succesful, with Cox coming in second.

I remember Fox was all sorts of confused why NOBODY from 90210 could make it outside of the show, but Party of Five came along and like 4 of those guys got roles elsewhere, how?

As for Piven, I don't get it. He was INCREDIBLE as Ari. One of my favorite character in anything. Movies, TV, plays, whatever. He was unreal. But the few roles I have seen him in elsewhere, Heat, The Family Man, Old School, he doesn't do ****. :lol:

It's a very interesting. I like it alot. Sarah Michelle Gellar, she died as soon as Buffy wrapped. I thought she would be around a while, but nope. Meanwhile, her doucher husband Freddy Prince made crap movie after crap movie like it was nothing. :lol:
 
i hope the next 300 and sin city dont mess up their good name..

not a fan of reboots either but Robocop seems like it could possibly go well.
 
Aniston got in with the right people...Brad Pitt. :lol:

I think she owes her movie career to Angelina Jolie. Kept her name in the papers forever.

Sarah Michelle...yeah....I remember her lowkey sniping at Joss late in show, talking about how she made Buffy what it was, and he needed her more than she needed him, and she couldn't wait to be done with it and move on to movies.

Mmhmm.
 
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Maybe he'll give her a job in Avengers 2, bringing him coffee. :lol:

But Aniston was getting solid movies done before Brad tho. Office Space, Rock Star, She's the One, another romcom I can't remember right now weren't those before Pitt? (I don't know their timeline)
 
You people bugging. Dominic West was great as Jigsaw. Warzone was very good. Over the top but done on purpose it worked.


John Carter gets flack because of it failing commercially. And like most films that fail people often regurgitate what the media said about the film. I thought it was one of the better hero movies of last year. John Carter and Dredd were well done.
 
Just saw vahalia rising. Strange movie. Beautiful on location shots. Intense action scenes but they are very rare.

Its like an art film that lures u in with a very violent beginning.

I dont know about all the symbolism and if it was actually meaningful. Is there true depth? No idea. But its an intersting change of pace
 
You people bugging. Dominic West was great as Jigsaw. Warzone was very good. Over the top but done on purpose it worked.


John Carter gets flack because of it failing commercially. And like most films that fail people often regurgitate what the media said about the film. I thought it was one of the better hero movies of last year. John Carter and Dredd were well done.

Warzone is literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen
 
Yeah...after seeing Rust and Bone, it's kinda ridiculous that Naomi got nominated for The Impossible over Marion. I mean, they both have similar roles, one's a tourist trying to find her family after she gets deeply wounded in a freak tsunami, the other is a killer whale trainer that loses her legs (and in a way her life) in a freak accident. Except Naomi's kind of a supporting character in her own movie. And Marion's performance is just fuller and better and more challenging and complicated and nuanced in just about every way. Cuz honestly...Naomi in The Impossible is just glorified torture porn.

Marion ***** on that openly. It's just that Impossible was bigger, "important," and in English was why it got more hype.

I do kind of get why there wasn't too much love for the movie Rust and Bone, though. Like early in the year people were hyping it up, then nothing. Marion's story will stay with you. That's some Oscar-grade stuff right there and it's so unique, how they pulled off the legless effect, and how completely she sells every bit of it. That imagery is just real strong. Especially the tats. :nerd:

But his story...ehhhh He's an backyard brawl, Kimbo Slice-type MMA fighter. Sketchy manager and all. Things just get dumb cuz...on the side he and his manager get paid to install spy cameras in the back of supermarkets to spy on employees who might be stealing. *yawn* And I guess it's illegal in France to spy on your own employees? That's ssdd in America. :lol: But somehow that's really important down the stretch.

It just seems so...random and too foreign for life. Like the dumbness of that being a big thing in a movie like this, can't be something that gets lost in translation. And Marion and he share the movie down the middle, so while you've got amazing Oscar-worthy stuff on one side...you've got a kinda throwaway backyard Lionheart mixed with Tommy from Warrior on the other side. He's really good, but his story isn't, and that makes it a kinda average movie.
 
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With movies you gotta find unexpected things that blow up, or else you're trying to get the role over Bradley Cooper and Mark Wahlberg and all of them. And unlike you, they can guarantee more people than the ones who saw The Goods will show up for them. And they are better.

Film and TV is different. TV seems harder, cuz you only get a few takes a scene and you gotta crank out half a movie every week, whereas they get a month or more, a ton of preproduction, a big name director, the works. But film is more finessed than TV. I mean, there are exception like Breaking Bad (which is really just a long film), but with television, they scream everything at the audience. Everything's louder and bolder and blunter and more exaggerated and repetitive. And there's so much dialogue and plot that all they really need from most TV actors a lot of the time is your face, your voice and the exact same performance. Film, they need you to create something from scratch, make it watchable and worth paying to see and different.

I mean that's stardom. With TV...Adrian Grenier wasn't famous at all. Vincent Chase was. Ari Gold was famous. Johnny Bananas was who people liked.

A part of the allure of film is, you're in you're out, over in a couple hours. A character and performance can make you famous, but you're the star. Dwight Schrute was one of the biggest comedy stars of aughts. Rainn Wilson wasn't. Sheldon is one of the biggest comedy stars right now. Jim Parsons isn't. With movies, you can be a one-hit wonder, get buzz and be forgotten in a year. With tv, it doesn't seem like they're one-hit wonders, because there's a new episode every week and they're famous for years and years, but once it's over...You get lucky and smart like Jennifer Aniston, or you get like everybody else from Friends. I mean...who rose up outta The Sopranos?

The thing is, their characters are the stars. They're just the people we wish were their characters, so when they try to be someone else...good luck, hope you knew the right people and made a smart, timely decision. And when they try to do the same thing as on TV, all people will think is...ehhhh...doesn't look nearly as good as his/her tv character, and I can watch that for free. Or worse...to try not to get typecasted, they'll go their other way. If they're a villain on TV, they'll try to be the hero. If they funny, they'll try to be serious, and just put people who think they know them off from the go.

Taylor Kitsch was lucky and timely...but he wasn't good and he got in with the wrong people. He's not this bad, but he isn't a big charisma guy. He's a speak softly and brood guy. That guy can't be the lead in your summer action movie, especially if it's terrible like Battleship. So few people watched Friday Night Lights, that he didn't get typecasted as Riggins...but he got miscasted as hell.

Just scrolled up. :smh:...I gotta stop doing this. :lol:

cliffs...Movie actors get famous. TV actors don't really get famous, their character does.
They gotta get lucky, smart, good and get in with the right people to jump up to movies.
Everything so ******g on point right here :smokin

Now with this in mind, is it a wrap for Matthew Fox after he involved himself with Tyler Perry and that tomfoolery? As for movies and him the only other thing that comes to mind I think was called Vantage Point and he played a generic watered down Jack from LOST role in it with the bigger names and more recognizable actors being more important and the real key pieces.

I didn't watch it and probably won't but he looked like he really tried to prepare for that role. Now I know the movie wasn't good but he did look menacing as a bad guy and him even taking that kind of role would be seen as a risk. The idea of him doing that I liked just wish it was a different movie.
 
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how is tv to films being talked about without any mention of clooney yet?

or johnny depp

for some of these guys, i think they're just making terrible decisions when they do get their shot.. you kinda have to realize who you are and stay in your lane

obviously, aniston is synonymous with friends.. but, i think her biggest issue is what happened with brad pitt and angelina jolie.. just how everything went down.. she's basically a living lifetime movie
 
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Few TV stars could ever match Clooney's movie star quality. And not many would have the versatility that Depp brings. 
 
For the Anna Kendrick and Game of Thrones fans... she's pretty much the Queen.

First this..

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Now..

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and naturally this was made by someone

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Allow me to pledge allegiance to House Kendrick, then.

Now with this in mind, is it a wrap for Matthew Fox after he involved himself with Tyler Perry and that tomfoolery?
Yeah...I think Speed Racer was his real big shot. He was really good in it too, but people were not about that movie when it came out. :lol:

obviously, aniston is synonymous with friends.. but, i think her biggest issue is what happened with brad pitt and angelina jolie.. just how everything went down.. she's basically a living lifetime movie
I think Simmons mentioned her and said something that made a lot of sense to me. Angelina is the best thing that happened to Aniston's career, cuz she got a decade straight of good tabloid press that kept her movie career strong, even though she makes mostly garbage movies. And like anyone else stays in the tabloids as much as her, would've had tons of **** thrown on them by now, but instead she got the permanent victim pass and free press for her movies.

I think he even said, she should never get married, cuz "poor, lonely Jenn" is a goldmine. :smh: :lol:
 
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how is tv to films being talked about without any mention of clooney yet?

or johnny depp



for some of these guys, i think they're just making terrible decisions when they do get their shot.. you kinda have to realize who you are and stay in your lane


obviously, aniston is synonymous with friends.. but, i think her biggest issue is what happened with brad pitt and angelina jolie.. just how everything went down.. she's basically a living lifetime movie

I agree that a lot of tv actors try to rush into movies and seem to do any kind of film and hope it will blow them up. I remember listening to an old WTF podcast with Maron interviewing Jon Hamm and Hamm talking about this exact subject. He said he wants to ease himself into film, that's why he's mostly done supporting roles like The Town and Bridesmaids so far. He's been offered a good amount of films were he would be the star but admitted he's not quite ready for that yet and that it has to be a perfect role, script, director, etc. before he's throwing himself out there.
 
New Images From Ryan Gosling And Nicolas Winding Refn’s Kickboxing Picture, Only God Forgives
Bangkok. Ten years ago Julian killed a cop and went on the run. Now he manages a Thai boxing club as a front for a drugs operation. Respected in the criminal underworld, deep inside, he feels empty.

When Julian’s brother murders a prostitute the police call on retired cop Chang – the Angel of Vengeance. Chang allows the father to kill his daughter’s murderer, then ‘restores order’ by chopping off the man’s right hand. Julian’s mother Jenna – the head of a powerful criminal organization – arrives in Bangkok to collect her son’s body. She dispatches Julian to find his killers and ‘raise hell’.




If Gosling pulls this off *cue weebay gif*
 
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