Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[noblekane]

Clooney and Depp probably sucked more ***** than those other guys.

please no :x

 

[trilluminated]

Vanessa Hudgens got some ratchet stoner chick in her.

I like that.

i never knew she was so ditzy..

i like it though.

 

[knowledgebones72]

It's looking like Ryan gosling is about to be the official ill dude of the 2010's.

 

[mitchellicious]

Vanessa Hudgens got some ratchet stoner chick in her.







I like that.

She seems annoying as ****

 

[mitchellicious]

Also I've said it before and I'll say it again, F&F1 is just Point Break with cars instead of surfing.

 

[venom lyrix]

I know I told people to not read anything about Pines due to spoilers from some sites like THR and Rolling Stone and the Russian Movie Poster has a minor spoiler on it...idk who approves these things.

But my review is finished, it is spoiler free for those that want an idea of what they are getting themselves into

Spoiler Free review

Review: The Place Beyond the Pines - A multi-layered epic story of the consequences for choices we make and how those choices reverberate through generations - http://wp.me/p2CCWq-2KK

 

[mronegative]

Finally got up the nerve to check out Cosmopolis.
David Cronenberg always makes kinda bizarre, interesting movies, but sometimes they're just on a planet I do not want to visit.

This is one of those.

Cosmopolis feels like it'd be a better graphic novel than it was a movie, with every issue being a different meeting dude takes in his limo or cafe. Robert Pattinson isn't a...compelling enough actor or presence to put a whole movie on his back. It's so stripped down, that he's gotta be damn fascinating to make this even watchable. And Cronenberg doesn't have enough visual flair, like a Fincher or Scorcese or Boyle to make a basically one-man show with cameos work. It looks like the same, bland, scene over and over, made all the worse because all Pattinson does is brood.

And this film does seem to have...something(?) to say about the class war in America. But good luck digging that out. Brooding and acting with charisma' are two opposite things. Brooding's muscle memory. It's being the boxing practice partner. It's trying not to get hit too much, and staying so far in your lane, that no one can really say you sucked. It's safe. It's anti-corny, because maybe if you ran in there and tried to push that big charisma, the cracks in your ability would show. It might seem like good acting, but that's hiding plain sight. They always said that Robert Pattinson was the one from Twilight who actually had talent. Maybe that bar ain't so high. This made me think less of him. Dude just retreated into brooding, when the film begged him to show charisma, because that was the only pulse the movie was gonna have. And he didn't. And it was strange film...like a play, and the ending was just weird.

It sucked. And it sucked completely because of Cronenberg and Pattinson.
It's pretentious trash. It looked cheap, and Pattinson was a black hole.

I think I actually regret watching it.

And I got a newfound respect for James Franco. All I could think of was how he could've at least made this into something.

 

[CP1708]

Bella can act. She's the ceiling from Twilight.

Personally, I like Keanu. But honest question real quick, can he act? Not just persona carry a movie, can he ACT? Because I'm thinking........is Speed his best performance, and that's it? I almost give him credit for the one with Diane Keaton and Jack, but is that it? Role wise, performance wise, is he Hollywood looks, summer blockbuster talent only? Constantine???

 

[thenoguy]

Cosmopolis is based on a Don Delillo novel if you weren't aware, so that may be why it didn't feel like a movie. 

 

[mronegative]

Random.

Keanu's an interesting dude. He's almost like his generation's James Franco. And a lot of times people say Franco sucks, but really it's him being miscasted. I think Keanu's miscasted and misused all the time. He's got a really particular affect and voice, but when you aim him right, he's great. You push too hard...have him do something or say something that maybe works for the character, but not Keanu...you get unintentional comedy. That Nicolas Cage effect.

I haven't seen it in forever, but I thought he was great in Hardball, and you ain't getting anything but bias about Constantine from me. That's such an awesome, memorable, well done, underrated movie. Everyone was good in it. Weisz, Shia, Djimon, Tilda, everyone. He sold that completely for me. And obviously...The Matrix movies. Those are all really different roles. I don't think it's Keanu Does _______.

His thing is...he's got the dude version of Mila Kunis' problem, where his voice is unchangeable. It's just locked into one way of being, and you have to work around that. He'll always sound like Ted no matter what, just like she'll always sound like Meg. And you can really use that to great effect, or ignore it and have him seem super out of place and dumb as rocks.

 

[mastamind033]

Keanu has a fascinating career, never gonna blow you away with a performance but never gonna ruin a movie or role with his acting (other than Dracula, that was bad) either. Yet he's still a movie star who's been around for over 20 decades, can't really think of anybody like him in Hollywood.

 

[duba169]

Keanu reeves played Buddha...


Buddha!

 

[johnnyredstorm]

A Scanner Darkly was pretty decent.

 

[crazy ebw]

A Scanner Darkly was pretty decent.

I couldn't get with that one. Keanu is definitely an interesting dude though. Hardball was

 

[CP1708]

I asked the question blind last night, I was goin off the top of my head without his resume in front of me.

Like I said, I'm a fan, like his work, I just know he's limited. In an ironic sense, you could put he and Aniston together. Lot of solid movies, considered "stars" but neither sets any sort of bar anywhere.

The Matrix was great, with or without him. What's funny is he doesn't elevate Matrix, but it elevates HIM. That role was PERFECT for him. Sit there, don't say much, look serious all the time, cover your eyes, kick some ***. Done. You or I coulda done that film, but for him it works perfectly.

Completely forgot Hardball, and I agree, that was really good.

Some of my favorites of his, Point Break a classic, but Swayze steals that and it's the action itself that carries it, not Keanu.
Devil's Advocate. One of his most underrated movies. Wife and I have watched that 90 times. We love it.
Chain Reaction, had heart, great cast of actors around him, but formulaic random action movie.

OH ****!!!!!! The Watcher. I forgot about that movie. First time I ever saw him play a "bad" guy. A serial killer, easily 10 or 15 people have seen this movie.

Street Kings. Street Kings......I dunno. I kninda liked him here. He plays the bad cop, ala Denzel, yet he does what I kept expectin from Denzel in Training Day, he really does turn out to be the good cop. I would give this one a look I suppose, just in terms of he's a little more diverse than normal, for him at least.

He has a bunch of others I don't even know about. Lake House, I think that was him and Bullock tryin to recreate something from Speed, like Leo and Winslet doin another movie together.

I dunno, he certainly seems to TRY and do other works, do different things, step outside the action hero stuff, he wisely turned down Speed 2 ( ) he's tried to show some versaitlity, I just don't know if he has it. I know he's not all about Hollywood and all that, you never hear anything about him, he's quiet as hell when he's not doin a movie, never in trouble, or dating this chick or that chick.......... .........

 

[mronegative]

^Keanu just kinda has a way about him. If it's an offbeat movie and he's in it, I know something interesting might happen.
I mean, I really thought Day the Earth Stood Still might be good. ...Can we talk about how Jennifer Connolly doesn't age?

A Scanner Darkly was pretty decent.

Forgot about that. They used him perfectly there.

and lemme leave this right here

 

[venom lyrix]

Random.

Keanu's an interesting dude. He's almost like his generation's James Franco.

woah woah no way

I hate Franco more so because of his attitude, smugness and holier then thou attitude. Keanu is a horrible actor, picks the worst roles and has consistently been a mockery.

The question posed above was is he even acting...it doesn't feel like it...Matrix, Devils Advocate...good movies but there's no way Keanu blew us away in those films.

 

[unknwn]

I know I told people to not read anything about Pines due to spoilers from some sites like THR and Rolling Stone and the Russian Movie Poster has a minor spoiler on it...idk who approves these things.

But my review is finished, it is spoiler free for those that want an idea of what they are getting themselves into

Spoiler Free review

Review: The Place Beyond the Pines - A multi-layered epic story of the consequences for choices we make and how those choices reverberate through generations - http://wp.me/p2CCWq-2KK

Can't wait to see this

 

[CP1708]

Can we talk about how Jennifer Connolly doesn't age?

Flawless.


Jennifer's in Hollywood man. Connelly, Anniston, Lawrence, Garner, Lopez, Love Hewitt...... sheesh.

 

[mronegative]

^She looks like Rocketeerwas yesterday.


And when I say Keanu's like Franco, I mean...they both have this inherent otherness to them. I wouldn't call it eccentric. Some of things Franco does on his own time is eccentric as hell, and yeah, Franco's a better actor, but they both have a fixed affect that they have to work around or work with. Keanu's surfer bro to Franco's stoner drawl. Yeah, Keanu can be pretty empty behind the eyes sometimes, but I think he's a good actor.

Keanu just has a bad habit of running away from the things he's good at, while Franco gets it and has fun with it. It was a blessing that Pineapple Express was a legit good movie, that didn't make everyone think Franco was dumb as rocks, like Bill & Ted kinda did with Keanu.

And with Franco...I think it just became open season on dude after he hosted the Oscars.

 

[CP1708]

I think Franco has a lot of range to him tho, I don't know if Keanu has that.

 

[mronegative]

Well yeah. Franco's a legit, really good actor. He's a lot more expressive . I'm just saying, they both have this sorta...built in persona, that can pull you out of a movie, or have you feeling like they were really miscast. There isn't a James Franco-type. There isn't a Keanu-type. You cast one of em, you gotta work around the way they come off and their affect. When you cast them, you add this strangeness to your movie. The top-level guy like that is probably Joaquin Phoenix. You can't just put them in a straight movie, because you're either wasting that quality about them or leaving them feeling miscast in the movie. (But in Keanu's case...there a lot of interesting roles you couldn't put him in either )

And on top of all that, Keanu has a signature unchangeable voice. He will always sound like Ted from Bill & Ted in one way or another.
I dunno...maybe all that means is he's just memorably different. This is the same dude I was hoping wouldn't ruin Cowboy Bebop.

 

[big j 33]

If Franco didn't try so hard with his obvious persona, I'd probably like him a lot more.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Have no problem with Franco. I really wouldn't compare him to Reeves. He's actually very good and to me can fit seamlessly in a couple kind of roles. I initially wouldn't have thought he'd fit in a comedy like Pineapple Express or a biopic like Milk but he tends to step his game up. I don't feel anyway about Franco's persona in movies. I agree he isn't a type like Keanu and they're both unique in that way but that about it.

Keanu to me is in a closer lane to my boy Nic Cage word to that Toy Story pic when it comes to you having to work around the persona to get to the character they're playing and movie.

It's clear Keanu is limited. I like him for what he does though but he's not in a lot of great stuff. I liked Constantine, had a similar feel to Hellboy. I forgot I watched Street Kings but that was okay (recall Hugh Laurie was in that). After that I can't really list a bunch of movies he's been in where I liked his performance. Not gonna count Bill & Ted

Some of those movies CP mentions I barely remember. Was Point Break the one they were climbing some mountain? Devil's Advocate is the exception cuz I feel you could've switched Keanu out with Matthew McConaughey and it would've been as good or better.

 

[big j 33]