Originally Posted by MrONegative
Originally Posted by CP1708
Holy God damn hell.
See...I dunno. A part of me almost hates the new Spidey movies, cuz the first was like...irrevelant...and this doesn't look like it's gonna buck the trend.
The Raimi Spider-mans...you HAD to feel something about them. You HAD to care, there was no choice in it. There are real superheroes at the movie theaters for first time. And Tobey Maguire...I can't stand that dude's face. He's such a goober. Every damn thing he's in, he's annoying and a goober (except Brothers from 09 with Gyllenhaal and Portman where he killed it). But as Peter Parker? Perfect casting. Peter should be a goober.
And I can't stand that snaggletooth Kirsten Dunst, but 1 & 2 were the best she ever was. James Franco was a beyond perfect Harry Osborn. Willem Dafoe went in...even though his costume was a joke. Rosemary Harris was so damn perfect as Aunt May. And Clifford Harris embodied Uncle Ben iconically. J. Jonah Jameson...JK Simmons...are you kidding me? Give up. JK Simmons' J. Jonah was on a Heath's Joker level of so completely owning a comic book role that they minus whale retire the character for a generation or 2.
The films were soaked in Sam Raimi's style every single frame. And the tone he took with the stories were so on point between real world and comic book, that no CBM has ever nailed it again. They'll either segregate the gritty/serious stuff from the wacky/jokey stuff, or they just shoot it like a sci-fi action movie that happens to be based on comic books. But it was the moments. I don't care where you rank the first 2 Spideys, or if you haven't seen em in 10 years, but I do know that you remember about 20 moments from each 1 of em.
The cage fight? "Bone Saw is ready" is the greatest quote I have heard in my life. Anything J. Jonah said. Every scene with Uncle Ben. The random cutaways to NYers talking about Spidey. Bruce Campbell being awesome. Tobey's "I'm hurt" face. The cafeteria. The dinner with Norman. Willem Dafoe telling the whole movie to hold his ****. Macy Gray still existing. Norman telling Pete not to tell Harry. When Peter told Aunt May he caused Uncle Ben's death. The upside down kiss. Doc Ock vs. the doctors. Alfred Molina being awesome in general. Peter delivering pizza. Aunt May at the bank. The train fight. The car through the cafe window. The whole ending to SM2. That brave new world cgi. Jokes that worked, and a whole cast that worked together.
I haven't seen the originals in years. But I know everyone remembers most of the those. And don't get me wrong...the 3rd one is a crime against hope. But I can't stand the 2 main leads of the Spidey movies, and I loved those flicks. Watch the first 2 again, and notice all the little things they do.
These new ones... Casting Sally Field and Martin Sheen is a joke. Sally Field is always just Sally Field. That's Forrest's mom. And Sheen...that's the former president of the US, that ain't Uncle Ben. **** you. And, for me, when you don't have a real Aunt May or Uncle Ben...your Spider-man is soulless. Now, I like Andrew Garfield. I just want him to be in something other than this role. Andrew Garfield would've made a better Harry Osborn. He really
is too cool and confident to make Spider-man make sense. Aaron Johnson's Kick-*** was a realer Peter Parker than him.
It feels like they wanted to make a SM that people who hate comic books would watch and ended up just making a sci-fi action HS movie with Vampire Diaries in the middle. And every other scene is so blah. We got spoiled bad. Sam Raimi never wasted a minute of his movies, and put his personal stamp on every scene. ASM is so generic and forgettable. And the story was weak. And there's no Aunt May or Uncle Ben. And the bad guy was something you were already forgetting before it was over.
I will say this much. From what I've seen, Sam Raimi would be proud of their Electro. Jamie looks ridiculous as hell, which is perfect Raimi, but sticks out like a sore thumb with fugazi Raimi. And having Oscorp be the one size fits all for all the forgettable and repetitive origin stories of the bad guys, is a good look.
But it seems like Andrew Garfield's still doing his Al Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon. And I respect not even trying to live up to Dafoe's Norman, but having Harry go from intro'd to Goblin in 1 flick... I see a lot of special effects and think...that's a cool video game, but where's the soul of the movie? Is it just gonna be dance around the action, big cgi...oops Gwen Stacy, the end? And now there's gonna be 4 or 5 or 6 of them with side-quels for Venom and friends?
I like Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone on screen. A lot of people said Emma should've been MJ cuz of her hair color, but she shoulda been MJ cuz of that kind of charisma she has. It's a testament to how good she is that she makes Gwen works, but all the things she's the best at are MJ. And let's be honest, Her whole career...she's the Kirsten Dunst we deserved. And while she's on screen, I can just enjoy a teen flick starring the two of them,...until Spider-Man things need to happen and it gets irrelevant again. The problem isn't that they rebooted it too quick or the that the fight scenes and cgi needed to get better. It's the characters and the story and the moments that are few and far between and his voice and the feeling that you are not in confident hands that had anything special to really say at all.
So yeah, my expectations are Transformers 4 level. It looks cool, I guess. Maybe I'm just jaded.
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