Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

Watched Escape Plan was good thought it could have been better. Was in and out of the movie but it still gave me the 90s action film feel. At the end Arnold reminded me of his Commando self. Still not an OK story where everything follows this one path to the end.
 
Casino dragged to me. Goodfellas I could watch from beginning to end once a week and not feel bored. I can't remember the last time I said "I need to watch Casino right now"
 
No one has the balls to tell Scorsese that he needed to edit down Casino. I also think WOWS needed to be edited down a bit too. Scorcese tends to beat you on the head with certain narratives in his movies. At some point I find myself saying ok Marty, I get it let's move on.

BTW, now that the field has been identified, I can't see anyone beating McConaughey. IMO, his performance was transformative unlike the rest of the field.

I hate him but I think Leto should win too. He really humanized his character... That scene when he had to tell his dad... :x That right there should wrap up the award for him.
 
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He did edit Wolf. If he had it his way the movie would be 4+ hrs :lol:

Why do you hate Leto? I had forgot all about him until DBC.
 
Casino > Fellas > Wolf

Fellas drags like **** after Tommy gets killed and story becomes Liotta drug mule.
 
Master Zik said:
He did edit Wolf. If he had it his way the movie would be 4+ hrs :lol:

Why do you hate Leto? I had forgot all about him until DBC.
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I hate his poser band, plus he tried to beat up Frodo back stage at a music festival for saying he didn't care for them either in an interview. Having said that, he killed his role in Dallas Buyers Club so much so that he should win the Best Supporting & Best Lead. :D
 
Just finished season 1 of the Killing.

I am liking Joel Kinnaman, the accent he pulls off is mind bottling good
 
Finish watching The Spectacular Now and was a good feel good movie(if i want to give it that title) Dude was just over thinking a lot things in life even though he was in high school. I enjoyed the movie.
 
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Finish watching The Spectacular Now and was a good feel good movie(if i want to give it that title) Dude was just over thinking a lot things in life even though he was in high school. I enjoyed the movie.
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That scene...


... when she got out of the car & got hit by another car had my wife & I along with everyone in the theater shook & like WTF!?!?!

Came out of no where... :smh: :x :wow: :stoneface: :lol: 0]
 
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Unfair to compare Goodfellas to Casino IMO, the story itself is just more compelling but Casino was still a great film even with some of the down points. De Niro's performance was stronger in Casino, love the dichotomy of him being so powerful/dictator like in his profession but being so subservient to a harlot when he should've known better.

Goodfellas GOAT though
 
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WOWS wouldn't even make my top 5 Scorsese flicks. Maybe not even top 10. Here are my top 5 in no particular order - Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Good Fellas, The Departed, & maybe Mean Streets...

I think the reason why WOWS resonates with everyone so much, particularly with the younger generation is because we live in the age of reality television. It plays to people's voyeuristic tendencies like people that slow up traffic to get a good long look at a gruesome accident. People like seeing Leo's "character" celebrating big Willy style, getting laid, the "Dionysus" orgies, the drugs, etc. I think dudes wish they could live a little like that. Belfort is a scumbag liar. Nothing he says or does should be trusted much less looked at with any entertainment value. Truth be told, I felt kinda slimy after watching the flick.
 
So real life versions of guys in other Scorcese movies aren't scumbags too?

Nobody is arguing that and I don't believe that the movie embellishes or celebrates his life. I viewed the film as more of a cautionary tale in how excess, greed and a lack of discipline can destroy a man and the lives of those he encounters.
 
No, Henry Hill is a scum bag also but I personally put Belfort as the bigger scum bag. He stole millions from people, victims he still owes money too. He had no conscience about lying & preying on hi victims to a somewhat lesser extent than Madoof. Same animal. I really hope this movie doesn't enable him to platform like a reality TV show. That would be really tragic. All in all, the movie was solid but I honestly thought it was a little beneath Scorcese.
 
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Yeah I'm not a huge fan of ranking movies that just came out especially if I've only seen them once
 
Henry Hill was involved in catching bodies and all types of other violence though, neither one is better than the other
 
Interesting op ed or letter from Christina McDowell, formerly Christina Prousalis (the daughter of Tom Prousalis).

http://www.laweekly.com/informer/20...street-and-the-wolf-himself?showFullText=true

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, dear Kings of Hollywood, but you have been conned.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Christina McDowell, formerly Christina Prousalis. I am the daughter of Tom Prousalis, a man the Washington Post described as "just some guy on trial for penny-stock fraud." (I had to change my name after my father stole my identity and then threatened to steal it again, but I'll get to that part later.) I was 18 and a freshman in college when my father and his attorneys forced me to attend his trial at New York City's federal courthouse so that he "looked good" for the jury - the consummate family man.

And you, Jordan Belfort, Wall Street's self-described Wolf: You remember my father, right? You were chosen to be the government's star witness in testifying against him. You had pleaded guilty to money laundering and securities fraud (it was the least you could do) and become a government witness in two dozen cases involving your former business associate, but my father's attorneys blocked your testimony because had you testified it would have revealed more than a half-dozen other corrupt stock offerings too. And, well, that would have been a disaster. It would have just been too many liars, and too many schemes for the jurors, attorneys or the judge to follow.

But the record shows you and my father were in cahoots together with MVSI Inc. of Vienna, e-Net Inc. of Germantown, Md., Octagon Corp. of Arlington, Va., and Czech Industries Inc. of Washington, D.C., and so on - a list of seemingly innocuous, legitimate companies that stretches on. I'll spare you. Nobody cares. All of them were taken public by the Wolf of Wall Street's firm Stratton Oakmont Inc in order to defraud unwitting investors and enrich yourselves.

As an 18-year-old, I had no idea what was going on. But then again, did anyone? Certainly your investors didn't - and they were left holding the bag when you cashed out your holdings and got rich off their money.

So Marty and Leo, while you glide through press junkets and look forward to awards season, let me tell you the truth - what happened to my mother, my two sisters and me.

The day my father had to surrender to prison, I drove him. My mother had locked herself in the bathroom crying and throwing up, becoming nothing short of a more beautiful version of Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine. Ironically enough, Marty, she looks like a cross between Sharon Stone and Michelle Pfeiffer. Totally your leading ingénue type. Anyhow, after my father successfully laundered money in my name, hiding what was left of our assets from the government in a Wells Fargo bank account, I arrived home to discover multiple phone calls from creditors and attorneys threatening to sue me. He'd left me in nearly $100,000 worth of debt. He left and never told me.

After all of that liquidated money was gone from the Wells Fargo bank account, things got pretty bad. My younger sister ran away at 17. My older sister struggled to finish school in Texas. I couch-surfed for two years, sometimes dressing out of my car and stealing pieces of salami out of my boyfriends' refrigerators in the middle of the night, because I was so hungry and so ashamed that I couldn't feed myself. Tips at the restaurant weren't cutting it. It's a pretty confusing experience to go from flying private with Dad to an evening where he's begging you for a piece of your paycheck so he can buy food for dinner.

But, here's the real kicker -

I believed him.

I believed everything my father told me. I believed it was the government's fault he was going to prison and leaving his little princess, I believed it was your fault, Jordan Belfort. I believed that by taking out all those credit cards in my name, my father was attempting to save me. I believed him when he got out, and when he told me everything would be OK. I believed him until he tried to do the same thing all over again - until I was at risk of being arrested myself (and I'm saving that story for the memoir).

So here's the deal. You people are dangerous. Your film is a reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals. We want to get lost in what? These phony financiers' fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.

And yet you're glorifying it - you who call yourselves liberals. You were honored for career excellence and for your cultural influence by the Kennedy Center, Marty. You drive a Honda hybrid, Leo. Did you think about the cultural message you'd be sending when you decided to make this film? You have successfully aligned yourself with an accomplished criminal, a guy who still hasn't made full restitution to his victims, exacerbating our national obsession with wealth and status and glorifying greed and psychopathic behavior. And don't even get me started on the incomprehensible way in which your film degrades women, the misogynistic, ***-backwards message you endorse to younger generations of men.

But hey, listen boys, I get it. I was conned, too. By. My. Own. Dad! I drove a white Range Rover in high school, snorted half of Colombia, and got any guy I ever wanted because my father would take them flying in his King Air.

And then I unraveled the truth. The truth about my father and his behavior: that behind all of it was really just insidious soul-sucking shame masked by addiction, which we love to call ambition, which is really just greed. Greed and the desire for fame (exactly what you've successfully given self-appointed motivational speaker/financial guru Jordan Belfort, whose business opportunities will surely multiply thanks to this film).

For me, it's become goddamn unbearable.

But I refuse to give up.

Belfort's victims, my father's victims, don't have a chance at keeping up with the Joneses. They're left destitute, having lost their life savings at the age of 80. They can't pay their medical bills or help send their children off to college because of characters like the ones glorified in Terry Winters' screenplay.

Let me ask you guys something. What makes you think this man deserves to be the protagonist in this story? Do you think his victims are going to want to watch it? Did we forget about the damage that accompanied all those rollicking good times? Or are we sweeping it under the carpet for the sale of a movie ticket? And not just on any day, but on Christmas morning??

So here's what I'm going to do first. I'm going to hand you my shame. Right now, in this very moment. The shame that I've been carrying for far too long as a result of being collateral damage. Because each of you should feel ashamed. And then I'm going to go pre-order my tickets to August: Osage County in support of Julia and Meryl - because, at least, as screwed up as that family is, they talk about the truth.

I urge each and every human being in America NOT to support this film, because if you do, you're simply continuing to feed the Wolves of Wall Street.

Yours truly,

Christina McDowell
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Love The Departed, can't see it in my top 5 Marty flicks though. I know these will all be considered Casino, Cape Fear, Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, The Aviator, and Shutter Island.
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Just finished season 1 of the Killing.

I am liking Joel Kinnaman, the accent he pulls off is mind bottling good
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Best thing about the entire series.

Holder :pimp:
 
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psk2310 said:
That scene...
 
... when she got out of the car & got hit by another car had my wife & I along with everyone in the theater shook & like WTF!?!?!
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Son I yelled out WTF!!!!! when she got hit by the car. At that point he was telling his girl she doesn't love him. You just came for the ride. My thoughts were dude Fing up a good thing.
But i did like how the movie ended.
 
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