Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[Master Zik]

So the other day I caught some of Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance basically for the first time (I saw most of the first GR and experienced enough of that trash no matter how much of a fan of Nic Cage I am), what the ****? Yoooo like WOW from the 15 min or so somewhere in the middle of the movie that I saw that was so bad.

Forget the bad acting or story. Who directed this? They were using shaky cam for regular conversations. The camera angles were wild :x

Not the biggest GR fan but damn it had potential to be better than that.

 

[danikerhino]

So the other day I caught some of Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance basically for the first time (I saw most of the first GR and experienced enough of that trash no matter how much of a fan of Nic Cage I am), what the ****? Yoooo like WOW from the 15 min or so somewhere in the middle of the movie that I saw that was so bad.

Forget the bad acting or story. Who directed this? They were using shaky cam for regular conversations. The camera angles were wild :x

Not the biggest GR fan but damn it had potential to be better than that.

Wasted CGI......horrible execution. What the hell was the crew thinking when they were producing this roll of garbage.

 

[duba169]

Have a good feeling about silicon valley. It's like entourage with a PLOT so far.

 

[duba169]

I honestly think disliking the Simpsons is the 'It' thing to do. Longest running sitcom, known as the 'og adult, network cartoon.'

Personally I still love the show, been watching as long as I can remember, week in week out I generally enjoi the show. This episode went to far away from what they do Way to much going on, to many storylines. Plus they've done a future episode...actually two I believe.

No... It's just Bad most of the time unfortunately. Im a huge fan but I can see the show had a massive drop off

 

[am1x90xnike]

Where? When? What specifically has become bad about the show? Like I've said, I've caught most of the show over the years, watched it with people that say the same stuff and they were laughing, but holding it back so they can stand by their statement.

Like I said, there are bad episodes, but that's not the norm in my opinion. It's just as clever as it used to be.


I think people are so used to that Family Guy/South Park humor that they don't view the Simpsons as 'edgy' as they used to. It's the same way with standup, a dude up there telling jokes like Rodney Dangerfield isn't going to get the same laughs as Zach Galifinakas, the crowd has changed, but to me the jokes are still just as good.

But hey, don't watch and maybe it'll go off the air, if it has to end it had a good run and I for one will give it all the respect it deserves should they sit on the couch one last time.

 

[duba169]

It would take wayyyyy too long for me to dive into this but I assure you it isn't because I'm looking for it to be a Seth Macfarlane show or wanna be cool

If i had to briefly describe the decline in greatness it would be that the show has no heart. Very few moments like the following:

 

[Master Zik]

So I'm guessing Paul's brother look like him and have a similar build? For a while I thought they were just gonna rewrite w/e they needed to for what Paul didn't get to.

On a related note, his other movie doesn't look that appealing to me. It came off like a real action heavy on the fighting flick (but not necessarily martial arts) with a Rumble in Bronx splash given the setting, cops, drug dealers but then I saw the parkour and the crazy jumping from building to building and through windows I dunno man.

I honestly think disliking the Simpsons is the 'It' thing to do. Longest running sitcom, known as the 'og adult, network cartoon.'

Personally I still love the show, been watching as long as I can remember, week in week out I generally enjoi the show. This episode went to far away from what they do Way to much going on, to many storylines. Plus they've done a future episode...actually two I believe.

Nah. It's just bad now. Drifting away from it was like stop watching The Following. Just cuz it's still good to you don't mean it's the it thing to for ppl who don't like it anymore.

Any time I watch some of the new eps I'm beginning to think it's possible the show was never good. It just grabbed young child like minds for a time and then ppl grew out of it.

This definitely has nothing to do with shows like South Park or Family Guy. The Simpsons came first, lets keep that in mind when we're talking about ppl who've been watching the show since the 90s who find it bad now (and the past 7 years or so).

 

[am1x90xnike]

I respect the actual thought out criticism, albeit short. And respect the Fandom...I will say Maggie isn't as much a part of the show as she once was, that does bug me a little.

No way your 'child mind' caught half the jokes though...they werent kiddie jokes, Simpsons stayed with the adult humor...but hey to each their own.

 

[duba169]

Any time I watch some of the new eps I'm beginning to think it's possible the show was never good. It just grabbed young child like minds for a time and then ppl grew out of it.

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no. i watch the classic episodes and its as good or better as when i was a kid.

you are acting like the simpsons is a childrens show had George Bush all angry and **** it wasn't for toddlers. it's a fantastic satire of America

 

[Master Zik]

Any time I watch some of the new eps I'm beginning to think it's possible the show was never good. It just grabbed young child like minds for a time and then ppl grew out of it.

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no. i watch the classic episodes and its as good or better as when i was a kid.

you are acting like the simpsons is a childrens show had George Bush all angry and **** it wasn't for toddlers. it's a fantastic satire of America

Yeah it was.

It's been so bad now I don't watch the classic eps anymore. It's pretty much filed in my nostalgia category. I'm pretty removed.

 

[servechilled81]

got a flight tomorrow, i've settled on August Osage County and The Royal Tenenbaums, and maybe Snowpiercer 

i haven't seen either, though i'm not sure if watching Gwenyth Paltrow on a plane is good for my mental health

 

[am1x90xnike]

If you watch August what's up with a review? I'm on the fence. Royal Tebebaums is said to be quintessential Wes Andersen. I liked it a lot. Snowpiercer was cool, once you get past the impractical ***, lazily/in sufficiently explained concept, it wasn't bad. The worked the space well, story wasn't cut and dry, dystopian futures are hot right now.

 

[japanair21]

The Raid 2

Since this was announced, I was curious what approach they were going to take with the film. Now, after seeing it, although I think the ideas were all great, I was just so blind-sided I had no idea what to think. Still think the action was top-notch, I just don't know if I got so used to it that I am somewhat numb to it, but the fights with Rama just didn't seem to have the same impact that they did in the first film.

I'm going to go into quite a bit of spoilers, so don't click unless you want plot spoiled for you.

Spoiler

I wish there weren't so many gosh darn moving parts in this picture, because this could have been split into two films. Although it was an enjoyable action movie, it felt every bit of the ~150 minutes of screentime. And yet, so much happens in the film but it just seems like it was crammed into one film.

For instance, all of Bejo's crew. His henchmen. It was the same instance with the first film, where Tama's boys were pretty interesting; Andi and Mad Dog. Except to me, the henchmen of Bejo were amplified by about a magnitude of ten. Baseball Bat Man, Hammer Girl, and The Assassin. I don't know if I'm just gullible, but they had me on the edge of my seat with glee. The Assassin especially. He's the one guy that Rama went up against where he seemed like a legitimate threat, aside from Mad Dog. I had an easier time believing that The Assassin was more dangerous than Mad Dog though, because of just size and intimidation. The Assassin was menacing to the point where I was unsure of how Rama would pull it out. I could have watched a whole movie about just his crew. Hell, a whole movie just about the interesting subplot of the Indonesian/Japanese war for money/drugs.

There was just so many gaps in the film where it would've been awesome if they could have extrapolated more with the plot. Okay so Andi gets killed at the beginning of the film, but Rama never really gets retribution on Bejo, hell he never even interacts with the man that killed his brother, pretty much the sole purpose of this film. Also, in the first film, you pretty much see the corruption from the police from every angle. But in this film, who exactly are the police and/or politicians that Rama is infiltrating? I know there's the dude Reza that is supposed to be a high-up in the police force, but it's really easily lost in the shuffle of all the moving pieces.

And in the first film at least you know who Rama was trying to help and protect. This entire film, it's some random dude that we see for about five minutes. That's it.

The entire prison set-up was cool, although unexpected. I'm glad they flashed-forward the two years though; that had dragged on long enough, and it got to the point, and executed.

The entire dynamic between Bejo, Uco, Bangun, the Goto family, Reza, etc., all is very interesting and could carry the film on it's own, that's why I just wish they could've split this up. I'm not saying they don't have the possibility for a third film, there's always that chance, but we got to see how corruption was taken down on small scale in the first film. Rama ravages the entire Indonesian/Japanese crime-duo in the span of two hours. That's quite a feat.

Also, I don't know if it was just me, but what a damn throwaway to bring Yayan Ruhian back. I hated that they created this whole new character, pretended like Mad Dog never existed, gave him a cutesy little backstory, and tried to make him fan-friendly all over again. That bugged me quite a bit, especially after seeing his downfall by The Assassin pretty quickly, simply used as a ploy by Bejo/Uco to get the ball rolling.

The action itself, top-notch. Although, I sat there thinking to myself moreso than the first film, "Man, they could easily just use a gun and dispose of __________." In the first film, they handle that issue pretty well. Mad Dog doesn't use guns, they're too sloppy. It's a dirtier, grittier world in that apartment complex. But Bejo and his men all use guns. Same with Uco. You're telling me Uco has the guts to kill his father right in front of his entire new mob family, but they can't kill Rama, and instead take him captive for God knows what reason? Meh. The final action scene between Rama/The Assassin rivals that of Andi and Rama/Mad Dog in the first film. The climax isn't nearly as satisfying to the end of this fight, but it's still pretty damn good, and goes on FOREVER. It was probably my second favorite scene of the film.

That montage though... The one when Uco gives Bejo's crew the okay to randomly thrash dudes of both sides of the family? That was AWESOME. Baseball Bat Man escalating his way up that abandoned building, Hammer Girl taking out those dudes in the train, The Assassin straight murking the guy in the crops, that was an awesome scene.

One thing that was done tremendously well was the cinematography. While the first film was dirty and grimy, this film was pristine and used colors VERY well. I thought The Raid: Redemption was a little too dark at times, and the shooting could have been better. The Raid 2 though? Gorgeous, beginning to end. When the film needed to be dirty and grimy, it got that grimy. But for the most part, vibrant reds, crazy visuals, and brutality around ever corner.

The one thing I missed from the first film was the score. I know it was rescored by Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park fame, and it wasn't the original soundtrack, but it worked so well with the action man. They just were relentless with the action, and the score accompanied that well! I was anticipating the heart-racing score that would keep up with the action, but it never came.

Was it a good sequel? Did it build from the last? Yes and yes. I still enjoyed it, though it wasn't as earth-shattering as the first film. I wish they would've emphasized more on a lot of the plot, but balancing plot and action in a film where so much happens, I can see why they leaned back a little. Action takes up a good chunk of the screentime, which doesn't leave a lot of time for plot.

 

[rook]

Gotta catch silicon valley. People are raving about it

 

[mitchellicious]

That song in that Gone Girl trailer is horrible

 

[mitchellicious]

Watched that trailer. Someone who read the book through whether he killed her or not in a spoiler so I can decide if I want to see it.

I just read the synopsis on Wikipedia. I was not impressed

 

[sb]

Where? When? What specifically has become bad about the show? Like I've said, I've caught most of the show over the years, watched it with people that say the same stuff and they were laughing, but holding it back so they can stand by their statement.

Like I said, there are bad episodes, but that's not the norm in my opinion. It's just as clever as it used to be.


I think people are so used to that Family Guy/South Park humor that they don't view the Simpsons as 'edgy' as they used to. It's the same way with standup, a dude up there telling jokes like Rodney Dangerfield isn't going to get the same laughs as Zach Galifinakas, the crowd has changed, but to me the jokes are still just as good.

But hey, don't watch and maybe it'll go off the air, if it has to end it had a good run and I for one will give it all the respect it deserves should they sit on the couch one last time.

season 1 - 10 are GOAT. these seasons are classics because of great stories and the jokes built within the great story. today the jokes you can see coming and they try too hard to be funny and it comes off as corny. the show centers around a lot of guest stars. seasons 1 - 10 is some of the greatest and funniest television of all-time.

got a flight tomorrow, i've settled on August Osage County and The Royal Tenenbaums, and maybe Snowpiercer 
i haven't seen either, though i'm not sure if watching Gwenyth Paltrow on a plane is good for my mental health

i suggest osage.

 

[rook]

Just watched the first episode of Silicon valley and im hooked.

God i wouldnt know if i could turn down 10 M's or just trust my ability to turn it into billions someday

 

[venom lyrix]

Brand New trailer for X-Men: Days of Future Past is here - http://wp.me/p2CCWq-3zI

 

[Hahahaha]

Silicon Valley is interesting. I don't find it that funny but I enjoy the show. Loved the episodes so far and will finish the season.

 

[am1x90xnike]

Brand New trailer for X-Men: Days of Future Past is here - http://wp.me/p2CCWq-3zI

[Larry David]...Ok...[/Larry David]


But who is quicksilver? The kid locked up by Hydra or the kid with the googles. Marvel you making my brain hurt!!!! Go to court over the rights, there has to be one ambiguous clause that a clever lawyer can exploit.

 

[licensed to ball]

Watched the first 2 Silicon Valley Eps.

Count me in

 

[danger style]

Transcendence is getting crapped on by critics. Eh It was kind of expected from the underwhelming trailers, sucks cause I was initially really looking forward to it based on the early descriptions and that it was Wally's debut.

BTW, my movie watching rate has really slowed down since the Holiday/Oscar season ended. Only movies I've watched in the past two months are Cap 2 and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (finally copped on blu )

 

[licensed to ball]

The early reviews for Neighbors are in and everyone seems to love it.

I was already anticipating it being hilarious but now I can't wait to see it

 

[CP1708]

The Raid 2

Since this was announced, I was curious what approach they were going to take with the film. Now, after seeing it, although I think the ideas were all great, I was just so blind-sided I had no idea what to think. Still think the action was top-notch, I just don't know if I got so used to it that I am somewhat numb to it, but the fights with Rama just didn't seem to have the same impact that they did in the first film.

I'm going to go into quite a bit of spoilers, so don't click unless you want plot spoiled for you.

Spoiler

I wish there weren't so many gosh darn moving parts in this picture, because this could have been split into two films. Although it was an enjoyable action movie, it felt every bit of the ~150 minutes of screentime. And yet, so much happens in the film but it just seems like it was crammed into one film.

For instance, all of Bejo's crew. His henchmen. It was the same instance with the first film, where Tama's boys were pretty interesting; Andi and Mad Dog. Except to me, the henchmen of Bejo were amplified by about a magnitude of ten. Baseball Bat Man, Hammer Girl, and The Assassin. I don't know if I'm just gullible, but they had me on the edge of my seat with glee. The Assassin especially. He's the one guy that Rama went up against where he seemed like a legitimate threat, aside from Mad Dog. I had an easier time believing that The Assassin was more dangerous than Mad Dog though, because of just size and intimidation. The Assassin was menacing to the point where I was unsure of how Rama would pull it out. I could have watched a whole movie about just his crew. Hell, a whole movie just about the interesting subplot of the Indonesian/Japanese war for money/drugs.

There was just so many gaps in the film where it would've been awesome if they could have extrapolated more with the plot. Okay so Andi gets killed at the beginning of the film, but Rama never really gets retribution on Bejo, hell he never even interacts with the man that killed his brother, pretty much the sole purpose of this film. Also, in the first film, you pretty much see the corruption from the police from every angle. But in this film, who exactly are the police and/or politicians that Rama is infiltrating? I know there's the dude Reza that is supposed to be a high-up in the police force, but it's really easily lost in the shuffle of all the moving pieces.

And in the first film at least you know who Rama was trying to help and protect. This entire film, it's some random dude that we see for about five minutes. That's it.

The entire prison set-up was cool, although unexpected. I'm glad they flashed-forward the two years though; that had dragged on long enough, and it got to the point, and executed.

The entire dynamic between Bejo, Uco, Bangun, the Goto family, Reza, etc., all is very interesting and could carry the film on it's own, that's why I just wish they could've split this up. I'm not saying they don't have the possibility for a third film, there's always that chance, but we got to see how corruption was taken down on small scale in the first film. Rama ravages the entire Indonesian/Japanese crime-duo in the span of two hours. That's quite a feat.

Also, I don't know if it was just me, but what a damn throwaway to bring Yayan Ruhian back. I hated that they created this whole new character, pretended like Mad Dog never existed, gave him a cutesy little backstory, and tried to make him fan-friendly all over again. That bugged me quite a bit, especially after seeing his downfall by The Assassin pretty quickly, simply used as a ploy by Bejo/Uco to get the ball rolling.

The action itself, top-notch. Although, I sat there thinking to myself moreso than the first film, "Man, they could easily just use a gun and dispose of __________." In the first film, they handle that issue pretty well. Mad Dog doesn't use guns, they're too sloppy. It's a dirtier, grittier world in that apartment complex. But Bejo and his men all use guns. Same with Uco. You're telling me Uco has the guts to kill his father right in front of his entire new mob family, but they can't kill Rama, and instead take him captive for God knows what reason? Meh. The final action scene between Rama/The Assassin rivals that of Andi and Rama/Mad Dog in the first film. The climax isn't nearly as satisfying to the end of this fight, but it's still pretty damn good, and goes on FOREVER. It was probably my second favorite scene of the film.

That montage though... The one when Uco gives Bejo's crew the okay to randomly thrash dudes of both sides of the family? That was AWESOME. Baseball Bat Man escalating his way up that abandoned building, Hammer Girl taking out those dudes in the train, The Assassin straight murking the guy in the crops, that was an awesome scene.

One thing that was done tremendously well was the cinematography. While the first film was dirty and grimy, this film was pristine and used colors VERY well. I thought The Raid: Redemption was a little too dark at times, and the shooting could have been better. The Raid 2 though? Gorgeous, beginning to end. When the film needed to be dirty and grimy, it got that grimy. But for the most part, vibrant reds, crazy visuals, and brutality around ever corner.

The one thing I missed from the first film was the score. I know it was rescored by Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park fame, and it wasn't the original soundtrack, but it worked so well with the action man. They just were relentless with the action, and the score accompanied that well! I was anticipating the heart-racing score that would keep up with the action, but it never came.

Was it a good sequel? Did it build from the last? Yes and yes. I still enjoyed it, though it wasn't as earth-shattering as the first film. I wish they would've emphasized more on a lot of the plot, but balancing plot and action in a film where so much happens, I can see why they leaned back a little. Action takes up a good chunk of the screentime, which doesn't leave a lot of time for plot.

That's a helluva write up man. Nice work.