Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

Be prepared for CP's wrath :nerd:

I'm 242 words into my review and 93% of those words are me ripping into the film something fierce. I got about another 500-700 in me to finish lambasting the film

Damn. C CP1708 response to it should be interesting :lol: I'm looking forward to your review.

I haven't seen it yet. But I really trust your opinion based on your previous reviews. I'll still watch soon but the cumulative reviews are disappointing.

Maybe having lower expectations now will make it more enjoyable for me though. We'll see.
 
I'm not gonna go MOS route with ASM2.

I don't care if people don't like it. Not my fault they have poor taste and hold on to Raimi's work.
 
I'm not gonna go MOS route with ASM2.

I don't care if people don't like it. Not my fault they have poor taste and hold on to Raimi's work.

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I'm not gonna go MOS route with ASM2.

I don't care if people don't like it. Not my fault they have poor taste and hold on to Raimi's work.

lol what?

what does someone not liking this horrid attempt at a sequel have to do with Raimi's films?
 
Review: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
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A plane is crashing, nose diving into the ground, but you have the wherewithal to grab your laptop, plug in the ethernet cord and make sure your ever so important, earth saving files are uploaded before you die in a fiery crash.

Sounds crazy, right? Not to Marc Web!!

Besides one of the most absurd and mind numbing opening scenes in cinema history, I tried to keep calm and remain open minded about The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Following a very successful and enjoyable first film, there was no doubt about the excitement level for the sequel.

The Spider-Man character is great, he's a fan favorite for a reason; we can relate to him, he seems like an ordinary kid. The man behind the mask (Andrew Garfield) has more to deal with than ever; from his relationship with Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone) and being haunted by her father’s last words, searching for the truth about his parents and a slew of new villains. It's Oscorp against Spider-Man in a fight to take over the city.

With no reason behind it, the film dives into Spider-Man flying through the air following NYPD cars chasing a man in a stolen car. Aleksei Sytsevich (Paul Giamatti), who is an important character, Rhino, we just don’t know it yet. Through tons of gunfire, car crashes and silly comedy by Spidey, innocent bystanders simply stand there watching the “fun.” We’re thrown into a familiar routine for Parker, donning the suit, fighting crime and ending up exhausted in bed. In the mix is lovely girlfriend Gwen who is still being ever so cute and balancing being Spider-Man’s girlfriend with her own ambitions.

Through all the chaos we’re introduced to a pencil pusher geek (Jamie Foxx) named Max Dillon, who designed the electric grid of New York at Oscorp. He’s a lonely man whose claim to fame is being saved by Spider-Man, and all he wants to do is be seen and needed by someone. Obsessing over the web slinger, after falling into a pool of electric eels following a work accident, Dillon freakishly becomes a blue Frankenstein-like electricity-manipulating monster, who vows to take down Spider-Man and steal his spotlight.

Director Marc Webb uses his shoddy editing tactics and while all the above is sort-of happening, now introduces us to Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), Norman’s son. As his father is on his deathbed, Oscorp is now under the control of 20-year-old Harry, much to the chagrin of the board members. Speaking to his father one last time, Harry is informed that the disease that is killing his father is genetic and he too will suffer the undesirable fate. Osborn knows the only way to combat the disease is with the blood of Spider-Man. The catch is such: Harry and Peter Parker are old pals, so their rekindling is only leading to a tussle between spider and goblin.
So now we have Peter trying to come to grips with Gwen leaving and taking on two villains. Aunt May (Sally Field) is also worried about him looking for answers with his father’s death. There are just so many things going on and none of them are presented in an orderly fashion. It’s pieced together and thrown on the screen, one scene after the other. It’s really ugly.

Frankly I enjoyed Foxx as Electro, he's a cool villain and probably the best part of the film. From his modernized costume to voice and special powers, he's a fun bad guy who unfortunately gets tossed away pretty haphazardly. I wish we got more of a backstory to his character and powers, it just sort-of happens, and we’re suppose to buy it. There’s no real motivation for his dark side to come out. DeHaan on the other hand isn’t so much misused, as he simply doesn’t feel important. His character has no meaning and the battle with Spider-Man at the end is over in the blink of an eye, even if it does provide a good bit of entertainment. Green Goblin’s makeup and appearance are pretty awful and distracting, simply put DeHaan is too talented of an actor to be in such a meaningless role. These are two villains that really could have been memorable but because of a seriously weak script, they will end up being footnotes in Marvel history.

Many are praising the chemistry between Stone and Garfield in the film, the love story of Peter and Gwen, chasing dreams to England vs. protecting the city. While being the fourth or fifth sub plot in the muddled film, the romance is a decent one, but the fact is when your sub sub sub plot is the thing we are talking about instead of the superhero the film is named after you’re in trouble.

There are some fun moments and a few decent action scenes but they are crippled by cheesy dialogue and stupid, gimmicky slow-motion effects. Every chance Webb gets to salvage the film, something else that’s the director’s doing gets in the way. There was too much going on and it seemed like everything with the villains was rushed. A lack of character development and overall storylines demolished any potential this film had.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 now bares the proud title of biggest budgeted film to ever shoot in New York, something Michael Bay would be proud to add to his movie poster as a tag line. Unfortunately this “title” gives us nothing new in the superhero film genre, it felt like there was a to-do list for the production team and their goal was to just check off boxes instead of blazing a new trail of something exciting for the fans and for the web-head.

With such great additions to the cast it's a shame how misguided the entire film truly is. From the first act the direction is so sloppy, cut scenes are meshed together and the story becomes so stale. The editing process must have been in the middle of a rave party, as there is simply no excuse for such a lack of cohesiveness. What motive was there behind this film besides setting up the Sinister Six story arc? And even that wasn’t done in a fun way. The lousy script and boring story arc lends no favor to a talented cast that ultimately star in a hollow, forgettable film.


Rating: C-
 
^Pretty on point. Did what I was never going to type up. Agree about the views on Goblin but not Electro cuz in the comics he aint ****. Not a whole lot of compelling stuff. He really is just a petty criminal, his main draw is his super power.

The real compelling Spidey villains are Norman Osborn, Doc Ock, Kingpin, Kraven, and Venom. Everybody else is their power or a combination of that and being crazy (Carnage, Mysterio, Scorpion, Vulture, etc). So outside of them completely starting from scratch with him there wasn't ever gonna be a lot to do with him. I do agree he did kinda got misused and dumped aside.
Be prepared for CP's wrath :nerd:

I'm 242 words into my review and 93% of those words are me ripping into the film something fierce. I got about another 500-700 in me to finish lambasting the film
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Electro Character development

Hes going to present his designs, gets saved by and becomes obsessed with spider man

Corporation uses designs on gheir flagship project and doesn't give him any credit/respect

Meets Gwen, the first to remember his name; you see how important/unexpected it is to him

On his birthday he's disrespected again as he is forced to fix something that's not his job while everyone else is loving life

Accident

Finally gets recognition as a villain

Spider man steals his moment

He realizes being a villain is the only way hell get attention

Harry is is only friend, they share a common goal

He gets beaten in a visually cool looking battle

What more development do you want from a villain? Show me good character development for a villain, Loki is the best example, but even then his character was developed over 3 stories.

The plan crash criticism is not good, plan crashes take a while, he had a goal and a purpose, he achieved it, I feel like I would have done the something if it meant that much...now that overall story arch was seemingly pointless, ill give you that. His father coulda dropped some knowledge

Harry was the dude pulling strings to save his own life, without him there wouldn't have been anyone for Spidey to fight. His change to the goblin was mental rather than physical, maybe no one else caught that in each scene he became more desperate, more angry which is a testimony to Dehaan; he was able to convey anger and desperation in a way that exuded swagger and control.


Idk, like I've said, I think they could have cut out 30min, mostly Emma x Garfield, but other than that, I think it was a pretty damn good movie.

Maybe I don't know to much about 'character development' but I think they did a lretty good job; these are rather shallow characters as in their aims are usually jealousy, survival or chaos...like someone else point out Joker in TDK had no development, from his first scene to his last scene, he just wanted to watch the world burn, yet everyone loved it...dbl standards.

The dialogue was straight out of a comic book, from the cheesy lines, to the excited news story's, terrible accents...I thought they did the dialogue well.

Every Comic Book Movie has ridiculous lines, exaggerated delivery etc. even TDK.

Long story short, I enjoied it.
 
Wow this skit on SNL's fake news is pretty offensive and they got a black chick doing it. Talking about how during slavery she'd never be single, selective breeding, and popping out Shaq, LeBron, and Kimbo Slice babies :smh: :rolleyes :x :stoneface:
Asm2 > any raimi movie made.

Period.
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What more development do you want from a villain? Show me good character development for a villain, Loki is the best example, but even then his character was developed over 3 stories.
Nah, Loki's villain development was good in Thor 1 alone.

Then there's Joker in TDK, Doc Ock in SM2, Kingpin in Daredevil (and that was a terrible movie), etc. Hell if we want to stretch it, Mr. Glass in Unbreakble, Dane Dehaan in Chronicle (**** he was a better villain in that than he was in ASM2 :lol: ),

Jamie did what he could with it. Great as Max but once he got his powers meh. Electro is a notch below Emil Blonsky's Abomination in Incredible Hulk.




On an unrelated note, Andrew Garfield has range. I'm probably forgetting one or two movies but I mainly remember him from the Spidey movies and The Social Network. I saw the potential on talk shows like Fallon but he can do straight up comedy. Think he'd also be great playing a sarcastic a-hole.
 
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2nd season of The Wire was cool. I can see how ppl might not have liked it the way the story switched up hard on who it focused on but it was still good. Ziggy was an annoying character, Nick was doing his thing, Frank was grinding but stuck. The Greek and his right hand getting away was a cool way to go with it. I mean as I start the 3rd season this **** is feeling like Game of Thrones the way story lines, multiple plots, and constant new characters are being juggled and maintained.

One thing though, these cops are ******* alcoholics. **** is sad out here for them the way they drink. McNulty and Bunk the worst. Like they seriously got a problem :lol: :smh:
 
Axel Foley set to return March 25 2016

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Despite appearing to kick back in cinematic retirement since Beverly Hills Cop III in 1994, Axel Foley has flirted with the idea of coming back on duty several times, as Paramount in particular has tried to bring Eddie Murphy’s wisecracking cop to our screens once again. Last December, news arrived that Jerry Bruckheimer had struck a deal with the studio following his split from Disney and a key focus would be one Axel F. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the studio has now set a March 25, 2016 date for his return.

Brett Ratner, who has been spearheading a new film for Murphy’s character for years, is still attached to direct, with Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol writers Andre Nemec and Josh Applebaum aboard to script to witticisms and get Axel into trouble. Bruckheimer, for whom the character was one of the early big hits when he worked with Don Simpson, is naturally invested in making sure he returns successfully and has been overseeing the script.

Axel, of course, nearly hit smaller screens last year when The Shield’s Shawn Ryan crafted a pilot for a TV version of the series – featuring Percy Jackson’s Brandon T. Jackson as Foley’s cop son and Murphy aboard to guest-star as the older Axel – but the CBS network declined to pick it up. To be honest, Axel’s natural home is the big screen, and though this will serve as a sort of reboot for the series, the presence of Murphy gives us reason to be hopeful. But are they planning to have him hand over the franchise keys down the line? We’d put a banana in the tailpipe of that idea.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=40933
 
I'm watching jack the giant slayer.. Because I've made sufficient fun of this movie without having actually seen it that I figured I should give it a shot..


I really wonder how the hell singer got 185-200 mill (according to Wikipedia) to make this steaming piece of crap..


And then how fox saw this movie and decided to give him 200 plus mill to make DOFP :smh:
 
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