Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[Master Zik]

Add 2 Hercules films for this year as Hollywood doing the same kind of movie twice so close

I know we all generically attribute these things to "Hollywood" but in reality if one studio wants to do a Hercules movie and another one has one underway too "Hollywood" can't stop that. Only one of the studios can if they think it'll hurt them money wise.

Same thing happened a year or two ago with the two attack the white house movies in the same year. Aint no checks and balances for this ****. There was a year they went super hard on the blatant bad parody movies. Overall they're following a trend and the hive mind that is Hollywood aren't doing anything creative or okaying many original ideas or at least scripts.

 

[mronegative]

Original. For 2 hours, you enjoy 30 minutes, the hour and a half is you sifting thru some weird stuff. But it gets you there eventually, and you loved it.

But I enjoyed the other 1 1/2 hrs though. I enjoyed the metal worm in the stomach and seeing that goober from Bill & Ted on his Office Space and getting his mouth erased and that pimp intro for Morpheus and the the mirror turning to liquid...all of it. The leap means something, because of seeing him punk out on the ledge. Two halves to the coin. It's hard to appreciate one without the other. It makes the world of the Matrix matter more, because we've experienced it. And it makes whatshisface...Teddy from Memento's choice near the end matter more, because of it.

Iono, I think it's great storytelling and worldbuilding.

The problem with the sequels, esp. Revolutions, is that they turn the world inside the Matrix into a cartoon or just a video game level. They stopped telling a story and just threw philosophical bs at a big excuse for action scenes. Now...I loved the action scenes in Reloaded. But it's dumb in some bad ways. And it's not singular. It leans on the next film a lot, which was awful and retroactively made things from Reloaded worse.

You never had to turn your brain off to enjoy The Matrix. And Bad Boys wasn't some especially amazing movie, so it's easier for me to prop 2 up.

Can't Reloaded get that same vibe as Bad Boys 2, even if the first is technically the better film?

As far as rewatchability? I can kinda see what you mean. But on top of being a better film, The Matrix has so many more classic moments and lines and images, while Reloaded has some action scenes that were really awesome for 10 years ago?

 

[Master Zik]

Bane's voice is iconic and amazing and IDC what anyone says. It is forever immortalized

It makes it worse with that weak sauce ending. Let alone the **** the just didn't make sense in it.

 

[sfc415]

TDKR wasn't a bad movie, but it wasn't a great one either. It was a cool experience in the theater, but once you reflect on what you just watched, you realize how much stupid @#$% happens. Movie would've been complete trash without Bane's epic speeches. I rooted for him the whole time because of how dumb the people and police officers of Gotham are

This is obvious, but the "problem" with the Batman trilogy is that you never really feel like rooting for Batman. The villains are so great that they completely overshadow a blandly written Batman. It's not a problem for casual comic book movie watchers like me that couldn't care less, but for Batman fans I can see why they'd be upset

 

[Kimchi Papi]

TDKR is better than any of the pre-Nolan Batman flicks, the X-Men & Wolverine (not including Days Of Future Past since I haven't seen it), all the Raimi Spidey movies, & all Will Smith movies & tv shows put together.

TDKR is flawed but not like the Star Wars prequels & for me it's rewatchable.

 

[lawdog1]

Sometimes it's okay. Sometimes it's Jar Jar status.

@ Jar Jar status. But in all seriousness, Jar Jar is in a class by himself that (hopefully) will never be duplicated. Bane's voice is just weird and kind of silly, not racist.

 

[mronegative]

^The Scottish were offended.

TDKR is better than ... all Will Smith movies & tv shows put together.

 

[Master Zik]

The reason ppl react this way to TDKR is cuz it ruined the trilogy. BB was just okay for me but Nolan showed the progress in TDK and things just got better. He should've stuck to his feelings and not did a 3rd one but that money changed his mind.

^The Scottish were offended.

TDKR is better than ... all Will Smith movies & tv shows put together.

Son just doesn't like Will Smith. I don't pay him any mind once he mentions his name

With that said Enemy of the State > TDKR

 

[antidope]

Gonna cosign that Will Smith comment, son is like 20% from the field when it comes to movies. Hitch, I am Legend, Pursuit of Happiness, Seven Pounds, That Jaden Smith Nonsense, Wild Wild West, all trash. That was just me spitballing, I'm sure he has more movies worth giving the stoneface too.

Not Men in Black though.

 

[licensed to ball]

Anti stop ******* trolling.

It's starting to piss me off

 

[rck3sactown]

inb4 CP yells at Anti

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[antidope]

Anti stop ******* trolling.


It's starting to piss me off

I am Legend, Pursuit of Happiness, Seven Pounds, Hitch-All horrendous.





Matter of fact Will Smith is probably shooting 35% from the field with his movies.

http://niketalk.com/t/575002/overrated-movies-flamesuits-must-be-worn-beyond-this-point/120

Straight from the Over Rated Movie thread. Will Smith makes bad movies breh

At me downgrading him from 35% to 20% in 7 months. That Jaden Smith movie did it to him

 

[licensed to ball]

Men in Black was a good Will Smith movie.

Meanwhile Hitch, I am Legend, and pursuit of happiness... 3 of will's BEST movies are just "trash." No explanation needed... They're just trash.

But the goofy *** alien movie men in black was good.





Just stop it dude.
Seriously.
Please.

 

[Master Zik]

@ y'all up in here talking about Hitch.

HITCH

The fact that y'all even seen Hitch says a lot. Like you saw the commercials and trailer for Hitch and still decided to watch that thinking it might be good?

That's y'all problem. If we wanna talk about an actor's filmography we could at least do it seriously. Obvious trash doesn't really need to be discussed. It's not like anybody saying Will is the best actor byway.

 

[am1x90xnike]

Wild Wild West was bad? Man...Idk. It's all subjective I know, but damnit man. Dudes are to cool, think to hard to enjoi a movie...and thats the thing, they think to hard about the wrong things.

Story

Writing

Dialogue

Cinimeotography

Lighting

Acting

Thats the list...Wild Wild West scores high mark in all those, IMO. But of course, people will think themselves right out of a movie.

I've pulled multiple quality yambs using Hitch, so maybe it's trash cuz y'all have no game and couldn't relate...yeah I said it.

But...ya'll are emotional dudes (will one dimensional emtional dudes) that don't really like comedies. Like, ya'll are the reason comedy gets no respect from the Academy, it has everything else these dramas have, but they make you laugh instead of cry so for whatever reason ya'll equate it with not being as good...I prefer Mel Brooks take on race than I do Steve McQueens. "You kill hitler by making fun of him" -Charlie Chaplin. Also, one of the best movie speeches in history came from a damn comedy, but ya'll have no vision, trapped to an antiquated way of thinking.

 

[lawdog1]

I'm going to come down sort of in the middle here. I don't know I'd call any Will Smith movie trash, except After Earth, but I do think some are overrated and a lot of them should have been better than they were.

 

[antidope]

Men in Black was a good Will Smith movie.


Meanwhile Hitch, I am Legend, and pursuit of happiness... 3 of will's BEST movies are just "trash." No explanation needed... They're just trash.


But the goofy *** alien movie men in black was good.






Just stop it dude.

Seriously.

Please.

I'm about to leave work, but if you need the long winded spiel about why I dont like those movies I will be sure to do that, but I've watched all three and I was not entertained, whereas I was by Wild Wild West.


I Am Legend I dont like, but those movies I HATE. Flat out HATE Hitch, Pursuit of Happiness and 7 Pounds.

 

[rck3sactown]

 

you are Karl Pilkington reincarnated 

 

[denni5themenace]

damb, i enjoyed hitch

 

[denni5themenace]

Straight up walked out of Rises, have yet to see anything after Bane died...I'm kick myself for staying that long.
.

Wild Wild West was bad? Man...Idk. It's all subjective I know, but damnit man. Dudes are to cool, think to hard to enjoi a movie...and thats the thing, they think to hard about the wrong things.

Story
Writing
Dialogue
Cinimeotography
Lighting
Acting


Thats the list...Wild Wild West scores high mark in all those, IMO. But of course, people will think themselves right out of a movie.

I've pulled multiple quality yambs using Hitch, so maybe it's trash cuz y'all have no game and couldn't relate...yeah I said it.

But...ya'll are emotional dudes (will one dimensional emtional dudes) that don't really like comedies. Like, ya'll are the reason comedy gets no respect from the Academy, it has everything else these dramas have, but they make you laugh instead of cry so for whatever reason ya'll equate it with not being as good...I prefer Mel Brooks take on race than I do Steve McQueens. "You kill hitler by making fun of him" -Charlie Chaplin. Also, one of the best movie speeches in history came from a damn comedy, but ya'll have no vision, trapped to an antiquated way of thinking.

 

[senorroboto2k5]

Wild Wild West was one of the worst movies ever made.

 

[licensed to ball]

damb, i enjoyed hitch

I did too.
I don't understand how you "hate" pursuit of happiness. Not like? Okay. But HATE? ...Mind blowing.


He likes WILD WILD WEST...

But hates Pursuit...





But so be it.

 

[mronegative]

I'm going to come down sort of in the middle here. I don't know I'd call any Will Smith movie trash, except After Earth, but I do think some are overrated and a lot of them should have been better than they were.

I agree. That's why I so wanted him to do Django, even though I didn't know a thing about the role. He's always been crazy mainstream potential. And sometimes it gets used sincerely well like Pursuit of Happyness and Six Degrees of Separation and Enemy of the State. Sometimes he just makes popcorn gems like Bad Boys and Men in Black and Independence Day and Hitch. And sometimes, he's so close to uniting the both, but the something about the film falls apart like Ali and I Am Legend.

But it's always there. He's always right there and every time you forget about him and see him again, you realize all over again how wasted he's been, and how there's no good reason he shouldn't have 10 great things lined up yesterday. Cuz what he does half of the time is make average movies really watchable.

 

[antidope]

damb, i enjoyed hitch

I did too.
I don't understand how you "hate" pursuit of happiness. Not like? Okay. But HATE? ...Mind blowing.


He likes WILD WILD WEST...

But hates Pursuit...





But so be it.

Movie was boring and was just trying to takw advantage of people's feelings as a method of masking all the deficiencies of it. "Oh he slept on a bathroom floor, now deem this as great cinema." nothing in that movie grabbed or geld my attention.

Jamie Foxx has a track record almost as bad as Will Smiths and we're lucky he didn't ruin Spider-Man or Django

Will Smith in Django no thanks Jeff. Nothing about him makes me think he can be a killer. Just like Pierce Brosman being James Bond. I don't look at him and say "man he looks like he could kill fifty people" Daniel Craig has that look.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Son just doesn't like Will Smith. I don't pay him any mind once he mentions his name

With that said Enemy of the State > TDKR

Yeah, I don't... But I mess with Jeff though, I've been watching his web show Vinyl Destinations from jump... Met him a few times & chopped it up with him a bit about music. Very down to earth cool guy...

Will Smith movies are just awful. Aside from maybe 3, I haven't been able to finish watching any of his flicks.