Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[rck3sactown]

Something about Greenzone always rubbed me the wrong way, never could quite put my finger on what it was though.

 

[danikerhino]

The only thing that throws me off is it almost seems like Matt Damon has no one looking over him, like he's just doing what the hell he wants.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

I stopped caring about Damon when he started doing stuff like We Got a Zoo. Dude is awesome, has chops, but he hasn't taken anything special in a while.

The Informant and Invictus are probably his best roles in this current decade, and while they are solid performances, they leave more to be desired knowing what Damon is capable of.

 

[lawdog1]

We bought a zoo wasn't bad, just kind of blah. An otherwise fairly vanilla family drama that happened to take place in a zoo.

 

[CP1708]

Hey can we talk about actors who were at the top but then suddenly took a nose dive, top of their game and then started to suck, actors that had great potential that never panned out? Showed great promise but just faded away for w/e reason?

This comes to mind as I flipped through the Showtime channels and yall know with those stations how in between movies or shows they do these promos for upcoming movies or series and I caught this promo for some crappy movie called Blood Out.

.... And then I saw Val Kilmer

What happened to him?

Kilmer in Tombstone rivals just about anything, ever.

Some guys just lose interest, don't work on their craft, get lazy, make poor choices, etc. Maybe he'd made enough money, he just stopped looking for work and then when he did want to work again, he only had lame roles offered.


Look at what Harrison Ford, DeNiro, and Eastwood look like nowadays. They have gotten old, and start doing Cowboys and Aliens, Last Vegas, and Trouble With the Curve. Great actors, no longer capable of giving the performances they used to. Kilmer may not be that old, but it could still apply in a sense. Then I look at Morgan Freeman, or Samuel L, they are old and grey, and turn out all kinds of solid work. So what happens there?


I thought Josh Harnett was great in Luck Number Slevin, thought maybe he had something in him more than just teen movie guy, and then I haven't seen him since.

Stifler looked like he had something, but he became typecast, and now he's worthless unless he's doing an American Pie film.


I've always thought Matt Dillon has had an underrated career, but not that he's Oscar worthy or anything, just very solid.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

DeNiro started taking projects to enhance his investment portfolio... Ford is doing that now too.. I wouldn't put Eastwood in that category though, if you just take his filmography of the pictures he's directed, it's prolific. Not to mention what he's produced... He's got American Sniper starring Bradley Cooper coming out... Gran Torino was the ish... And I'll admist I love Bridges of Madison County... It's a movie picture... Also love the jazz soundtrack.

Outside of Kilmer, I think about Mickey Rouke way back when. He was heralded as a great actor & then took a huge nose dive. I think fame is a mutha though... These actors start believing their ish don't stink. One also has to have a great agent that helps pick great projects to work on & help guide careers. Too many actors start picking crap movies to make buck & careers just nose dive.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Always interesting to see roles actors turned down...

- Tom Selleck turned down the Indiana Jones role.
- Michelle Pfeiffer turned down Clarice Starling in Silence of the Lambs.
- Hugh Jackman turned down Bond/Casino Royale.
- Gillian Anderson turned down Lady Cora Crawley in Downton Abbey.
- Paul Shaffer (Late Night w/ Letterman band leader) turned down George Costanza on Seinfeld.
- Matthew Broderick turned down Walter White in Breaking Bad.
- Darryl Hannah & Molly Ringwald turned down Pretty Woman. Ringwald also turned down Ghost that eventually went to Demi Moore.
- Pamela Anderson passed on Scully/X-Files.
- Fugly Sandra Bernhard turned down Miranda Hobbes in Sex and the City.
- Paul Giamatti turned down Michael Scott in The Office (but he took Rhino in Spiderman?!?!?)
- John Travolta, Bill Murray, & Chevy Chase turned down Forrest Gump before it went to Hanks.
- Dana Delany turned down Carrie Bradshaw in Sex and the City... :x

I guess "Things Happen For A Reason" really fits in these situations... I would be losing sleep to this day if I were some of these folks...

 

[CP1708]

Pam Anderson as Scully. I see you David.

 

[lawdog1]

Age definitely plays a role in actors -- and more so actresses -- falling off. Once they get 40 and above, seems like they just don't get offered the same kind of roles. No romantic or action hero leads, etc. There's exceptions of course. Like Liam Neeson turning into the biggest badass in movies when he got into his 50s.

And some of these guys can have ups and downs. Travolta was considered pretty much washed before Pulp Fiction, but that shot him right back into major stardom. RDJ was a non-entity for a while because of his substance abuse issues and now he's bigger than ever. Who knows? Maybe Kilmer makes it into the next Tarantino movie somehow and has a career resurgence. America loves comeback stories.

 

[Master Zik]

I can't believe what Pamela would be as Scully.

I can see Paul Giamatti not wanting to do tv. He would've worked in that setting though

@ Matthew Broderick as Walter White (not that he sucks). Vince almost **** the bed on that one.

Hey can we talk about actors who were at the top but then suddenly took a nose dive, top of their game and then started to suck, actors that had great potential that never panned out? Showed great promise but just faded away for w/e reason?

This comes to mind as I flipped through the Showtime channels and yall know with those stations how in between movies or shows they do these promos for upcoming movies or series and I caught this promo for some crappy movie called Blood Out.

.... And then I saw Val Kilmer

What happened to him?

Kilmer in Tombstone rivals just about anything, ever.

Some guys just lose interest, don't work on their craft, get lazy, make poor choices, etc. Maybe he'd made enough money, he just stopped looking for work and then when he did want to work again, he only had lame roles offered.


Look at what Harrison Ford, DeNiro, and Eastwood look like nowadays. They have gotten old, and start doing Cowboys and Aliens, Last Vegas, and Trouble With the Curve. Great actors, no longer capable of giving the performances they used to. Kilmer may not be that old, but it could still apply in a sense. Then I look at Morgan Freeman, or Samuel L, they are old and grey, and turn out all kinds of solid work. So what happens there?


I thought Josh Harnett was great in Luck Number Slevin, thought maybe he had something in him more than just teen movie guy, and then I haven't seen him since.

Stifler looked like he had something, but he became typecast, and now he's worthless unless he's doing an American Pie film.


I've always thought Matt Dillon has had an underrated career, but not that he's Oscar worthy or anything, just very solid.

It still messes with me when I think about it though.

Like we talked about Hartnett a bit earlier this year and I recall him saying he wanted to take a break and go back to his hometown after turning down Superman for Returns. Some guys actually take a break and come back better than before.

This gradual decline in to movies that don't even go straight to DVD and are only on these obscure channels or weird outlets is what I don't get. I mean dudes don't even try to reinvent themselves on cable tv.

 

[Meangene45]

Mattew Broderick as Walter White :x

 

[shogun]

I liked Val Kilmer in MacGruber. Anytime The Saint is on tv i'll watch it for a little bit.

 

[MajinZuub]

Pam Anderson as Scully. I see you David.

What a drastic change they went with as their second choice

 

[Kimchi Papi]

John Cusack also turned down Breaking Bad... The suits didn't think Malcom In The Middle's dad was right for the role...

 

[shogun]

Maybe Cusack would've been better.

 

[lawdog1]

Cusack could definitely use a comeback. He's been in mostly terrible stuff recently. Kilmer-level films. Maybe he won't pass up the next good TV role he's offered.

 

[mastamind033]

Mickey Rourke is the king of turning down great roles

Pulp Fiction
48 Hrs.
Dead Poets Society
Platoon
Beverly Hills Cops
Tombstone
Rain Man
The Untouchables

 

[shogun]

Mickey Rourke just seems like an eccentric guy, hard to know what's going on in his mind. Boxing and the plastic surgery messed up his face so bad.

 

[Master Zik]

Never been a big fan of Rourke.

Maybe Cusack would've been better.

Better than Boderick? Sure.

I think he would've been a more methodical Walter White. Not necessarily better than Cranston. Not sure he'd hit on those threatening scenes as effectively. Might be able to match the humor. In a way he probably would've been a much more sadder than Walter White too

Just saw Cusack in some movie with Emma Roberts and another one with Nic Cage. He still does his thing.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

When Rourke came out onto the scene, he had great roles in Rumble Fish, Diner, The Pope of Greenwich Village, The Year Of The Dragon, Angel Heart... People thought he was going to be the next Brando & ish went south...

Edit - Forgot to include 9 1/2 Weeks among the flicks Rourke did at the time.

 

[T0INE]

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@ the Mike Tyson cartoon.



Had no idea.

 

[lawdog1]

If there's a currently living celebrity that has a weirder life than Mike Tyson, I sure can't think who it is.

 

[nazdrowie]

anybody see the drop ?

 

[denni5themenace]

just started boardwalk empire.

jimmy's mom is

 

[mastamind033]

When Rourke came out onto the scene, he had great roles in Rumble Fish, Diner, The Pope of Greenwich Village, The Year Of The Dragon, Angel Heart... People thought he was going to be the next Brando & ish went south...

Edit - Forgot to include 9 1/2 Weeks among the flicks Rourke did at the time.

Yup, so much potential and it's a shame he didn't use it more. He still gets high praise from a ton of actors and directors though.

Also The Pope of Greenwich Village is one of my all time favorite films, so underrated.