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Not really feeling supreme. I think it's the guys singing. Where Avery Storm at?
**The Official Rick Ross Appreciation Thread PART 2: "God Forgives, I Donât" THE ALBUM**
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War Ready grew on me. EVEN!. TRACY!. T's!. PART!.
Aye.... Wayne's verse is pretty good. Maybe there's still hope.
That's either Mase or Rico Love talking to the sadiddy broads on that skit.
Aye.... Wayne's verse is pretty good. Maybe there's still hope.
That's either Mase or Rico Love talking to the sadiddy broads on that skit.
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This album 
Not disappointed at all
Not disappointed at all
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So no Maybach Music V?
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"You wanna walk with them or do you WANT TO WALK WITH GOD! ********"
I love that part.
I love that part
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Sanctified 
love Ye's verse
love Ye's verse
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Ross killlledd the Biggie flow on Nobody. Diddy had to be half drunk when that rant was recorded.
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Just copped from Target haven't heard any songs before the release besides The Devil Is A Lie
Once Rich is Gangsta came on I got chills, Ross is so consistent.
Once Rich is Gangsta came on I got chills, Ross is so consistent.
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Nah he def did NOT kill the biggie flow
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Nobody track is tough outside of that horrible hook
I can't get that blk and wht hook out my head lol
mafia music 3 the worst song on the album
I can't get that blk and wht hook out my head lol
mafia music 3 the worst song on the album
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A review on it. Seems about right.
Rick Ross :: Mastermind
Maybach Music/Def Jam
"Mastermind" is an incredibly apt name for the sixth Rick Ross album. It's the name of a famous and long-running British quiz show where a brainy contestant sits on a black leather chair for a couple of minutes and is interrogated by the host on their chosen subject of knowledge. Once you've listened to this album a few times, you start to see that Ross, rather than create anything new, is effectively talking about his "chosen subject" for over an hour and dragging in anything/anyone within earshot to help him. He throws around Tupac quotes, Wu choruses, does a Biggie impression and trades bars with a guest list that goes into double digits. It may not be particularly original, but bizarrely enough, "Mastermind" ends up being arguably the best album of his career.
The problem is that it's probably a couple of years too late. "God Forgives, I Don't" was an instantly forgettable, overblown waste of time that sapped the steam from Ross' impressive career arc. In an ideal world, "Mastermind" would have been his fifth - a long play with no real singles, consistently excellent production, catchy choruses aplenty and surprisingly little filler. It's clearly designed to garner your respect, and as long as you don't analyse it too deeply, it should succeed. Dig a little deeper (than rap), and the weak points of the entire Rick Ross propaganda story surface once again - it's just that in 2014, his stubborn refusal to go away and decent level of artistry/lyricism mean that his audience is far more forgiving than it used to be. To put it another way, since 50 Cent's last meaningful work ("Curtis" in 2007), Rick Ross has released five albums, with every one finding his target audience and selling healthily too (assuming this one doesn't buck the trend).
A promising first track ("Rich Is Gangsta") would ordinarily lead into a gigantic single, but such a song simply doesn't exist on "Mastermind" - so instead we get a surreal double whammy of an imaginary "Drug Dealer Dreams" and Biggie homage/rip-off "Nobody". The latter initially has you yearning for Gorilla Black to make a comeback as Rick's impression seems rather lacklustre, but it does grow after a while. Still, there is no substitute for originality and the clear lifting doesn't ultimately do Ross many favours. The prerequisite Jay Z duet is decent enough, but is followed by the superb "Mafia Music III" - featuring a perfect instrumental from Bink! alongside a brilliant assist through the mighty Mavado. Ironically enough, it's the kind of beat you could actually imagine a modern day Biggie Smalls rhyming over, but Ross doing Ross straight nails it.
Apparently the MMG head honcho and Young Jeezy had issues (seriously, after a while you just tune it all out) but they have now "quashed" it. The result is alright but about as noteworthy as their initial beef. French Montana returns to help Ross in his "Hip Hop Karaoke" quest to go all ODB over "What A Shame"; the strange combination of fake cocaine dealer Rick Ross with ******* huge cocaine addict Scott Storch on "Supreme" veers into filler territory; "BLK & WHT" fares better, mainly owing to a clever chorus, but Ross doesn't ride the tempo particularly well. After the ladies section (skit + The Weeknd track), the riotously enjoyable Big Sean and Kanye West track "Sanctified" really doesn't need Ross popping up at the end (harsh, but fair). Meek Mill and Lil Wayne help close the standard version of the album off relatively well (even if Ross forlornly asking if "thugs cry" just sounds Razzie-worthy). The deluxe version is, for once, totally worth your money - without ruining any potential surprises for you, just know that Scarface is worth the admission price alone.
In the end, your thoughts on "Mastermind" will rely less upon your taste, and more on your stance. I've never been much of a Rick Ross "fan" - I can certainly appreciate his qualities, and various songs/verses have temporarily won me over. This album is surely his most consistent from start to finish, and in that respect it's probably his most enjoyable to date. It's just that the level of fabrication involved in almost every song FOR ME undermines the very foundations upon which his story is based. Putting that to one side, there are clear strengths (beats, hooks, sequencing, no reliance on singles) and obvious weaknesses (certain verses, feeling like a guest on his own album, borrowed subject matter and, ironically, no actual singles). His hardcore army should love it; casual rap fans should find more than a passing interest; and those who only get on board due to big singles will probably barely realise this was even released. Saying all that, you know that "Rating" button in iTunes, where you attribute one to five stars to a song? When push comes to shove, there are only about three songs here that merit that kind of mindshare - and none of those come close to his best singles. By his standards, "Mastermind" is technically a good album, but neither timely nor memorable.
Music Vibes: 7 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 6 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 6.5 of 10
Originally posted: March 4th, 2014
Maybach Music/Def Jam
"Mastermind" is an incredibly apt name for the sixth Rick Ross album. It's the name of a famous and long-running British quiz show where a brainy contestant sits on a black leather chair for a couple of minutes and is interrogated by the host on their chosen subject of knowledge. Once you've listened to this album a few times, you start to see that Ross, rather than create anything new, is effectively talking about his "chosen subject" for over an hour and dragging in anything/anyone within earshot to help him. He throws around Tupac quotes, Wu choruses, does a Biggie impression and trades bars with a guest list that goes into double digits. It may not be particularly original, but bizarrely enough, "Mastermind" ends up being arguably the best album of his career.
The problem is that it's probably a couple of years too late. "God Forgives, I Don't" was an instantly forgettable, overblown waste of time that sapped the steam from Ross' impressive career arc. In an ideal world, "Mastermind" would have been his fifth - a long play with no real singles, consistently excellent production, catchy choruses aplenty and surprisingly little filler. It's clearly designed to garner your respect, and as long as you don't analyse it too deeply, it should succeed. Dig a little deeper (than rap), and the weak points of the entire Rick Ross propaganda story surface once again - it's just that in 2014, his stubborn refusal to go away and decent level of artistry/lyricism mean that his audience is far more forgiving than it used to be. To put it another way, since 50 Cent's last meaningful work ("Curtis" in 2007), Rick Ross has released five albums, with every one finding his target audience and selling healthily too (assuming this one doesn't buck the trend).
A promising first track ("Rich Is Gangsta") would ordinarily lead into a gigantic single, but such a song simply doesn't exist on "Mastermind" - so instead we get a surreal double whammy of an imaginary "Drug Dealer Dreams" and Biggie homage/rip-off "Nobody". The latter initially has you yearning for Gorilla Black to make a comeback as Rick's impression seems rather lacklustre, but it does grow after a while. Still, there is no substitute for originality and the clear lifting doesn't ultimately do Ross many favours. The prerequisite Jay Z duet is decent enough, but is followed by the superb "Mafia Music III" - featuring a perfect instrumental from Bink! alongside a brilliant assist through the mighty Mavado. Ironically enough, it's the kind of beat you could actually imagine a modern day Biggie Smalls rhyming over, but Ross doing Ross straight nails it.
Apparently the MMG head honcho and Young Jeezy had issues (seriously, after a while you just tune it all out) but they have now "quashed" it. The result is alright but about as noteworthy as their initial beef. French Montana returns to help Ross in his "Hip Hop Karaoke" quest to go all ODB over "What A Shame"; the strange combination of fake cocaine dealer Rick Ross with ******* huge cocaine addict Scott Storch on "Supreme" veers into filler territory; "BLK & WHT" fares better, mainly owing to a clever chorus, but Ross doesn't ride the tempo particularly well. After the ladies section (skit + The Weeknd track), the riotously enjoyable Big Sean and Kanye West track "Sanctified" really doesn't need Ross popping up at the end (harsh, but fair). Meek Mill and Lil Wayne help close the standard version of the album off relatively well (even if Ross forlornly asking if "thugs cry" just sounds Razzie-worthy). The deluxe version is, for once, totally worth your money - without ruining any potential surprises for you, just know that Scarface is worth the admission price alone.
In the end, your thoughts on "Mastermind" will rely less upon your taste, and more on your stance. I've never been much of a Rick Ross "fan" - I can certainly appreciate his qualities, and various songs/verses have temporarily won me over. This album is surely his most consistent from start to finish, and in that respect it's probably his most enjoyable to date. It's just that the level of fabrication involved in almost every song FOR ME undermines the very foundations upon which his story is based. Putting that to one side, there are clear strengths (beats, hooks, sequencing, no reliance on singles) and obvious weaknesses (certain verses, feeling like a guest on his own album, borrowed subject matter and, ironically, no actual singles). His hardcore army should love it; casual rap fans should find more than a passing interest; and those who only get on board due to big singles will probably barely realise this was even released. Saying all that, you know that "Rating" button in iTunes, where you attribute one to five stars to a song? When push comes to shove, there are only about three songs here that merit that kind of mindshare - and none of those come close to his best singles. By his standards, "Mastermind" is technically a good album, but neither timely nor memorable.
Music Vibes: 7 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 6 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 6.5 of 10
Originally posted: March 4th, 2014
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Reviewer said that this is Ríck's best album, that's all I needed to know. The rest of his commentary is irrelevant.
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He said a lot of stuff I agreed with, but the to me you'd think the score would be higher. DTR is still his best album though.
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Fire album . Ross did his thing !
Rick Ross has no interest in coming back at 50 Cent, according to sources.
50 Cent was up to his usual troll-ish ways this week, posting some photos of Rick Ross and Diddy to insinuate that the the two rappers were actually gay lovers. He ended up deleting the post shortly afterward, but of course, nothing dies on the internet, and the pic made circulation anyway.
This left fans wondering whether Fif's jab would reignite their long-term beef, but according to sources close to Ross, he's not concerned with what Curtis has to say at this point.
According to a statement obtained by TMZ, Ross' camp reports that Rozay "doesn't give a crap about 50 Cent or anything he says -- he thinks 50 is IRRELEVANT."
In other words, there won't be a diss track coming anytime soon, at least not from Ross' side.
You can view a screencap of 50's post in the gallery above
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/rick-ross-will-not-respond-to-50-cent-s-diss-news.9630.html
50 Cent was up to his usual troll-ish ways this week, posting some photos of Rick Ross and Diddy to insinuate that the the two rappers were actually gay lovers. He ended up deleting the post shortly afterward, but of course, nothing dies on the internet, and the pic made circulation anyway.
This left fans wondering whether Fif's jab would reignite their long-term beef, but according to sources close to Ross, he's not concerned with what Curtis has to say at this point.
According to a statement obtained by TMZ, Ross' camp reports that Rozay "doesn't give a crap about 50 Cent or anything he says -- he thinks 50 is IRRELEVANT."
In other words, there won't be a diss track coming anytime soon, at least not from Ross' side.
You can view a screencap of 50's post in the gallery above
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/rick-ross-will-not-respond-to-50-cent-s-diss-news.9630.html
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Supreme is the worst song IMO
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Everything said in his entire career is a lie.
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First listen and this joint is way too overhyped. It's decent and good. But y'all make it sound better than "Deeper Than Rap", "Teflon Don" & "God Forgives, I don't." Lyrically this isn't good at all. But I will listen to the album much more since I went out an bought it.
That "Mafia Music 3" is though.
That "Mafia Music 3" is
though.
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I wonder what unrelease Drake X Rozay tracks that could have made the album
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Devil is a lie & ashamed are my least favorite songs
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As I look through my iTunes library at Ross' work I gotta say...
Rich Forever > Mastermind > Teflon Don > GFID > DTR > Ashes To Ashes >Trilla > POM
None of his projects are weak to me so this isn't saying Trilla and Port of Miami aren't good just saying I like his other work more.
I'm sorry but Rich Forever is album quality to me and should have been GFID. Before Mastermind I listened to that tape more than any other Ross project and I think it's him in his lane and at his best.
This is still to me hands down Ross' best verse ever. He rode that beat like a Kentucky Derby jockey. DAMN HE WASTED A MASTERPIECE!!!
- Preciate it.
Rich Forever > Mastermind > Teflon Don > GFID > DTR > Ashes To Ashes >Trilla > POM
None of his projects are weak to me so this isn't saying Trilla and Port of Miami aren't good just saying I like his other work more.
I'm sorry but Rich Forever is album quality to me and should have been GFID. Before Mastermind I listened to that tape more than any other Ross project and I think it's him in his lane and at his best.
This is still to me hands down Ross' best verse ever. He rode that beat like a Kentucky Derby jockey. DAMN HE WASTED A MASTERPIECE!!!
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