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im terrible at sc2.  just started last month, still at bronze. Only find time to play late night, so everyone on is better than me.  Played a little brood war so im fairly familiar with the game beforehand.

been watching

empirehappy

liquidtaeja

marineking

anyone else i should be idolizing and watchin?
 
if you're playing terran, you need to look up filtersc's bronze to masters series for terran. you can easily get to platinum league by following his guidelines and builds.
 
I really wish I didn't such at SC2. There's a big group that plays in the library on campus every tuesday night.
Looks like so much fun, but I am trash.
 
didn't get a HoTS beta key despite having 3 accounts from friends that don't play anymore. also I'd rather watch pros play because they'll balance out crap for when it really comes out. I even heard that the carrier is coming back and they might take out the warhound already
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I wish I knew people who played on campus, even tho Berkeley's campus prolly has the biggest gathering every now and then. just don't want to make the trip there by myself
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. has to be doper now that Suppy is a member of EG

To a degree I would say Terran is hardest, coming from a Diamond Zerg.

I believe to a certain point you watch streams to learn then when you get good enough you watch streams to see styles of play and for trolls, haha. I love watching Destiny but choose people who will talk throughout their streaming Bamez. I know MKP and Taeja are good as hell since he did win dreamhack after all
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but I've learned a whole lot more from english speakers going "he's taking double early gas while just getting the barracks, should see the thor rush" and they call it there. to me that's better than DRG just winning constantly blasting Kpop. but hey do you booboo

I play/learn/teach anyone of the NT brethern just hit me up, name is in my sig, played with one of you the other week, carried you on our 2v2 teams but its all good
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Warhound is already taken out. I'm pissed off I didn't get a chance to use it.

Also, a lot of big changes on the way. They made the hellbat (battle mode hellion) a bio unit! Widow mine is awesome and they are still trying to make it better.

Mothership Core is a little OP at the moment. Allows toss to harass with their whole army early on.

Ha...that was me. I know I was pretty trash that night but no doubt you're def better than me. 
 
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will add you tonight, i dont remember my sc2 id bc my brother installed it on his bnet account, but never played it.

oh and i dont watch korean streams, just whatever hd, husky, or day9 cast. i really JUST got into it, i dont even know whos korean or not?
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for the most part the game is balanced as of now, the queen range prolly changed everything the most but people just have to adjust which they did... banshee hellion openers plus people are finally getting mech down, should be better with HoTS.

that's the reason i don't mess with betas because its not the final product while people like Dragon are doing all-ins hella fast and exploit them.





^but betas let programmers see things that only pros can accomplish with their skills so thats good^
 
bamez said:
will add you tonight, i dont remember my sc2 id bc my brother installed it on his bnet account, but never played it.

oh and i dont watch korean streams, just whatever hd, husky, or day9 cast. i really JUST got into it, i dont even know whos korean or not?
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Yeah, you can learn a lot from Day9. He's good at explaining things. 

How many of us are there that play SC? I only have Mario added. Everyone should post their friend codes or whatever method is the easiest way to add someone. 
 
which race was it against because I'm prepared to defend this
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that is prolly our best and only final late game army composition while the other 2 can have several

better yet who were playing because if its just the skill of players then invalid arguement
 
it was a zvp between leenock and hero. hero was up something like six bases to leenock's three. leenock gets broodlord/infestor and roflstomps hero. zerg is supposed to be up bases to protoss, not the other way around. on top of that, hero defended every single attack and prevented every one of leenock's attempts to expand.

while mothership/archon is equally stupid, zerg can neural the mothership or spread their broodlords.

also, terran has no real answer to broodlord/infestor.

infestors are just stupidly strong. and zerg still has the option of using ultralisks. ultra/ling/infestor is ridiculously good against terran and can work against protoss.
 
well its all about positions on the map, concave, convex etc. etc and skills obviously, Hero done effed up that one then
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. same concept for the mothership.

Terran's answer to BL/infest would be ghosts to emp or snipe. then vikings if they got good micro they'll dodge fungals. another way is to bother the crap outta them with drops n what not to force them to attack in a situation that they honestly don't what them too. (I win most of my ZvP's because I'll make muta deathballs and they'll get so annoyed that they walk innto my base but then my army is completely ling banes to kill them off) And you have to remember that Zergs only attack in the big battles once they know they'll remax immediately. even if the armies split BCs can be put in use. good Terrans have to make the game end early or middle game so they don't get into those situations. MVP is the best but he knows that rule too.

plain n simple infest or are our only spellcaster so they have to be worth something
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. ultra/ling/infest s good and only just came up because of Stephano famously uses it. then when they go Maruaders to handle ultras we switch to BLs for air. Zergs a reactionary race and that big switch lets us take control of what we go for once. its something we learned to do. besides Protoss's learning FFE's I think it took us the longest to figure out our shiiii. even tho fruitdealer won the 1st GSL when the game came out as Zerg, but no one knew the game back then.
 
i don't think anyone agrees that hero is to blame. hero is one of the top protoss players in the world and completely outclassed leenock. the fact is, broodlords and infestors both prevent micro and award the zerg with free kills. they are units that require little skill to use with high reward. the fact is, once late game comes around, infestors have enough energy to chain fungal. that is why terran has almost no answer to the infestor/broodlord composition. terran has the most difficult time tech switching, so while ghosts counter infestors, it's difficult for the terran to make that switch unless they're significantly far ahead (which isn't really ever the case in a tvz). also, snipe was nerfed. apparently infestors can counter everything but ghosts aren't allowed to be decent counters to zerg t3 units. also, the infestor is broken because of the fact that it both does damage and immobilizes units. you can completely prevent units from doing anything while getting free kills. that can hardly be considered skill.
 
also, idra, king of qq, has even come out and said that terran has no answer to infestor broodlord. most people agree that it's too powerful and counters everything.
 
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also, idra, king of qq, has even come out and said that terran has no answer to infestor broodlord. most people agree that it's too powerful and counters everything.
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Prevent that from happening... End it midgame before they get those units. Thats what I do...I have a hard time dealing with seige tanks... ugh

I'm mediocre, I just picked up on SC2 and play from time to time. Not really good but not that bad either. I used to play SC BW. Protoss was my first race but then I switched to Zerg and from then on I just used zerg. I don't think I ever played a game with protoss :lol: I just played with zerg from the get go.
 
IluvJordanXI said:
So Nyuh Shi Dae said:
also, idra, king of qq, has even come out and said that terran has no answer to infestor broodlord. most people agree that it's too powerful and counters everything.
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Prevent that from happening... End it midgame before they get those units. Thats what I do...I have a hard time dealing with seige tanks... ugh

I'm mediocre, I just picked up on SC2 and play from time to time. Not really good but not that bad either. I used to play SC BW. Protoss was my first race but then I switched to Zerg and from then on I just used zerg. I don't think I ever played a game with protoss :lol: I just played with zerg from the get go.
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yeah, so the terran player has to be significantly better than the zerg or player or all in. that's indicative of a terribly designed game.
 
So Nyuh Shi Dae said:
IluvJordanXI said:
So Nyuh Shi Dae said:
also, idra, king of qq, has even come out and said that terran has no answer to infestor broodlord. most people agree that it's too powerful and counters everything.
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Prevent that from happening... End it midgame before they get those units. Thats what I do...I have a hard time dealing with seige tanks... ugh

I'm mediocre, I just picked up on SC2 and play from time to time. Not really good but not that bad either. I used to play SC BW. Protoss was my first race but then I switched to Zerg and from then on I just used zerg. I don't think I ever played a game with protoss
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I just played with zerg from the get go.
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yeah, so the terran player has to be significantly better than the zerg or player or all in. that's indicative of a terribly designed game.
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Jordan said it and I did too, you have to end it midgame. plus Terrans have just really started to go hard mech against Zerg. Idra said that thanks to the Beta with all the mech units and buffs players have started using Mech in WoL... Zerg is a reactionary race we see tanks n blue flame so we have to go roach infestor. Force us not to use gas on infestors and get expos. tank creep the way to the base. Carry a raven so infestors don't flank you. once you have the perfect tank marine split on their ramp you pretty much won just dont screw up and elevator trick you way to kill them. drops are crazy good.
 
right, and what i said is that's indicative of terrible game design. oh you got these units and i wasn't able to prepare absolutely perfect? i lose now. yeah, that's not a good game nor is that a balanced RTS. mutas beat mech in the first ten minutes as long as you scout as well.
 
i use to play zerg and i stopped because of how broken it feels. it's been interesting learning the other races because you have to do so much more.
 
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