**Seattle Mariners 2024 Season Thread ** | Opening Day is Here! vs. Red Sox |

Well when you have a front office that tried to get by with junk for so many years, that's what happens. You can move the fences in, play the puppies, and all that jazz but let's be serious that won't work. The Pirates turned things around, the Nats and O's turned things around, all of these franchises somehow climbed out of the mud but Seattle consistently battled for a top 3 draft pick. Fans stop coming, etc.

So I welcome the "desperation". Show you want to win. I know people are wary after signing busts like Sexson and Figgins but I prefer that over some AAAA ballplayers.
 
Would rather sign Kemp and Canyes instead of canyes and ellsbury.
That would put my 3 favorite players in the entire league on the mariners :smokin Felix, Canyes, kemp

Man if the M's pull off even trading for Kemp I'd be ECSTATIC...but Kemp AND Robbie would be :smokin
 
Are there legit rumors of Cano to the M's? Because I just can't envision anything like that and not just because this is the Mariners. That'd be dope, but spendy.

Kemp worries me, but f it. If he's healthy, he's an MVP caliber player.
 
No legit rumors and we all know it isnt likely anyways

the article just seems to be pointing just how much flexibility the M's have financially to actually pull it off and not sink themselves with a couple big contracts
 
With the money available on the books it'd be dumb to not at least pursue some of the top tier guys, real questions is who would even consider it?

Just need Jack Z to hurry up and give us something 
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No legit rumors and we all know it isnt likely anyways

the article just seems to be pointing just how much flexibility the M's have financially to actually pull it off and not sink themselves with a couple big contracts

Shoot...My bad. Didn't even read the posts above to see the article.

And just realized that even though Chuck is retiring this offseason, it's still not before winter meetings. Still holding this franchise hostage. :smh:
 
Here just long enough to curse the team for at least this upcoming season :smh:

I dont think any big player would consider coming here unless they were wildly overpaid, which doesnt even seem in the realm of happening with this management.

but who knows Z in a lame duck year, if he's given more room money wise to spend...maybe he'll pull the trigger on some moves
 
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NEW YORK -- The Seattle Mariners have emerged as a major player in the sweepstakes for free agent Robinson Cano, according to several sources who spoke to ESPNNewYork.com on Tuesday on the condition of anonymity.

With the New York Yankees not wanting to offer Cano more than a seven-year contract or as much as $200 million, an industry source with knowledge of the negotiations put the Yankees chances of retaining their five-time All-Star second baseman at "less than 50-50."

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The Seattle Mariners have emerged as a serious contender for the services of free agent Robinson Cano, sources told ESPNNewYork.com.
"It doesn't look too good right now," said the source.

Mariners GM Jack Zduriencik refused to confirm a meeting with Cano.

"We've talked to everybody," Mariners GM Jack Zduiencik told ESPNNewYork's Andrew Marchand on Tuesday. "There's not a free agent we haven't talked to. We've cast a wide net.''

Sources familiar with the negotiations between the Yankees and Cano told ESPNNewYork.com that the Yankees believe Seattle might be willing to offer Cano a $200 million deal over eight years.

One of the sources said the Mariners were "desperate for hitting and desperate to put people in the ballpark."

"I wouldn't presume to say that there's no one out there that will meet (Cano's) demands,'' said another, who named Seattle -- along with possibly the Texas Rangers -- as a team that might be willing to outbid the Yankees for Cano's services.

"Now it's a question of, does (Cano) want to be a Yankee, or is he just about the money?," said a baseball insider.

According to sources, the Yankees believe they learned the answer when it was reported in October that Cano's side had demanded a 10-year deal worth $310 million. Cano has since said he never made any such demand.

Cano's agent, Brodie Van Wagenen, did not respond to a request for comment, and a Cano spokesman said the agent was meeting with another team Tuesday afternoon. The spokesman would not specify the team, but said, "It's a big, big meeting.''

The Yankees have had no contact with Cano or his representatives since last Tuesday, when they presented Cano with an offer believed to be for seven years and $160 million. At the same meeting, the Cano side was said to have lowered its demands slightly; it has since been reported Cano is asking for $252 million over nine years with a vesting option for a 10th year at $28 million.

The Yankees are said to be willing to increase their offer, but not substantially; an insider said the club might be willing to go to $175 million over seven years, an average salary of $25 million.

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"(The Yankees) think this offer is incredibly fair,'' the insider said. "It's the highest average annual salary they've paid anyone except for Alex Rodriguez. Not even (Derek) Jeter got that kind of money.''

Jeter's 10-year deal that expired before the 2010 season paid him $189 million. He subsequently signed a three-year deal for $51 million, and this October agreed to a one-year, $12 million deal for 2014.

According to a source who was briefed on the meeting, the Yankees have rejected the idea of any deal longer than seven years for Cano based on their own history of bad deals -- notably, Rodriguez's 10-year, $275 million contract -- and the deals given to Albert Pujols, Josh Hamilton and Ryan Howard, none of which have panned out.

Instead, the Yankees presented an analysis of Cano's value that determined he was worth approximately $25 million per season -- well below Rodriguez's record annual average salary of $27.5 million but equal to what is being paid to Hamilton, Howard and Felix Hernandez -- but for no more than seven years, considering he turned 31 in October.

According to the source, Cano's side presented its client as not only "the best player on the board,'' but also as the best player in baseball and someone who is "indispensable'' to the Yankees.

The Yankees disagreed with that statement and cited diminished attendance and TV ratings in 2013 in the absence of Rodriguez and Jeter, both of whom missed much of the season due to injuries, as evidence that Cano lacks the star power to attract ticket buyers.

"We don't see Robbie Cano as the best player in the game,'' one of participants at the meeting is reported to have said. "We see him as one of the best.''

Cano is a career .309 hitter who has averaged 28 home runs and 103 RBI in each of his last five seasons. In 2013, hitting with little or no protection in the Yankees injury-decimated lineup, Cano batted a team-high .314 with 27 HRs, 107 RBI and an .899 OPS. He has finished in the top-10 in the last four AL MVP ballots, and came in fifth this year.

According to an executive familiar with both the Cano meetings and the struggle to work out a new contract for Jeter in 2010: "These negotiations have been far less contentious.''

"Jeter was very unhappy (with his negotiations),'' the source said, "but in the end, he compromised, because he really wanted to be a Yankee.''

Three years later, the Yankees aren't so sure they can say the same about Cano.
 
They're all probably just using us as leverage for better deals from other teams. 
 
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