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Oh, Montero is suspended for the rest of 2014?
Oh, I'm so sad.
Good riddance.
Oh, I'm so sad.
Good riddance.
**Seattle Mariners 2024 Season Thread ** | 6-8 | v. Cubs & Reds |
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His offense (albeit aided with illegal substances) will be sorely missed
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And speed.
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and the ability to throw out base runners stealing
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and his passed balls.
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Hard to replace 5-tool players like him, thats for sure
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so who won in the trade?
NY or SEA
NY or SEA
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Lol.
@jimcaple
Based on Jesus Montero, I don't think Biogenesis made players faster.
Well Noesi is still inconsistent, while I've totally given up on Montero... at least Pineda still has a chance to be good again.
@jimcaple
Based on Jesus Montero, I don't think Biogenesis made players faster.
Well Noesi is still inconsistent, while I've totally given up on Montero... at least Pineda still has a chance to be good again.
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the sad thing is, I think if neither player was traded they both would be playing right now (with exception to this suspension). I think Montero wouldn't of had to deal with the stress of being "the guy" and would be hitting around .280 right now in NY. I also think pineda wouldn't have had to try and live up to the hype of the trade and not over throw his shoulder
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He's figured it out.
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Man, that's rough.
Another fine performance.
Another fine performance.
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Is that the second pick off they missed or the first?
edit: Sinner answered it.
edit: Sinner answered it.
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We got robbed... TWICE. How the $*%* did he miss that!?
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We got robbed... TWICE. How the $*%* did he miss that!?
Home field advantage for Toronto tonight
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And the fans... are there normally that many Jays fans!?
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Tom Wilhelmsen appeared to be packing his things in the clubhouse and was getting handshakes and hugs from teammates.
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Tom Wilhelmsen is heading to Tacoma. No word on who will take his place.
Wow, talk about a 180... he was so lights-out a few months ago.
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Tom Wilhelmsen appeared to be packing his things in the clubhouse and was getting handshakes and hugs from teammates.
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Tom Wilhelmsen is heading to Tacoma. No word on who will take his place.
Wow, talk about a 180... he was so lights-out a few months ago.
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Tom the starter?
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Interesting.
Who got brought up btw?
Capps? He's the only person I can think of right now
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Yep... Capps...
While Bay has been released.
While Bay has been released.
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Good read on just how good Smoak has been:
Funny thing happened to Justin Smoak on the last Mariners road trip. Smoak saw his on-base-plus slugging percentage (OPS) move back up over .800 while his slugging percentage continues to creep up towards the mid-.400 mark.
If the season ended today, Smoak would have a .273 batting average, a .373 on-base percentage, .439 slugging mark and an OPS of .813. Those are perfectly acceptable numbers for a first baseman in today’s game, where home run power is not what it used to be. His weighted on-base average of .359 is just one tick below the .360 posted by Kendrys Morales and good for top-five among AL first basemen with at least 300 plate appearances.
So, if we’re going to discuss possibly paying Morales as much as $14 million to play next year via a qualifying offer, ticking off Smoak’s name under the “good” category should no longer be difficult for some people, even those saying not long ago saying that he’s as good as done and it was time to move on.
As has been well-documented, Smoak put in the work last winter revamping his entire plate approach — most importantly, his pre-at-bat plan and ability to focus on implementing it while in the batter’s box — and carried it through at spring training. So, for the second year in a row, we have a classic example of a revamped off-season regimen producing big gains at spring training and then working in-season. First, it was Michael Saunders in 2012 and now Smoak in 2013.
So, next spring, when the inevitable stories surface about changes made to off-season plans, let’s not be so quick to dismiss them. Sure, some of those plans did not work out: like with Dustin Ackley, Blake Beavan, or Kameron Loe. But there is always a chance they will connect and when they do — as in the case of lifting his career off the scrap heap with Saunders or finally coming into his own with Smoak — they can pay huge dividends for the team.
The difference between Smoak this year, Saunders last year and some of the failed examples I listed above are that Smoak and Saunders clearly dominated at spring training. There were no hiccups along the way. It was evident that big changes had occured. With the other guys, there were stumbles and more of a “let’s see” attitude heading into the season.
Look, this isn’t exact science. And when Smoak stumbled out of the gate the first three weeks of this season, I was very surprised and began wondering as well whether this was it for him.
But since those three weeks ended, he’s hit .300 with a .401 OBP, a .514 slugging mark and an OPS of .915. He’s hit 11 homers during that 257 at-bat span. And that’s with an oblique injury that cost him several weeks being thrown into the mix. Those opening three weeks have taken him the rest of the season to dig out of, but that’s exactly what 2013 has been for Smoak — a three-week slump, followed by an elite-level season so far.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/marin...in-smoak-being-done-were-greatly-exaggerated/
If the season ended today, Smoak would have a .273 batting average, a .373 on-base percentage, .439 slugging mark and an OPS of .813. Those are perfectly acceptable numbers for a first baseman in today’s game, where home run power is not what it used to be. His weighted on-base average of .359 is just one tick below the .360 posted by Kendrys Morales and good for top-five among AL first basemen with at least 300 plate appearances.
So, if we’re going to discuss possibly paying Morales as much as $14 million to play next year via a qualifying offer, ticking off Smoak’s name under the “good” category should no longer be difficult for some people, even those saying not long ago saying that he’s as good as done and it was time to move on.
As has been well-documented, Smoak put in the work last winter revamping his entire plate approach — most importantly, his pre-at-bat plan and ability to focus on implementing it while in the batter’s box — and carried it through at spring training. So, for the second year in a row, we have a classic example of a revamped off-season regimen producing big gains at spring training and then working in-season. First, it was Michael Saunders in 2012 and now Smoak in 2013.
So, next spring, when the inevitable stories surface about changes made to off-season plans, let’s not be so quick to dismiss them. Sure, some of those plans did not work out: like with Dustin Ackley, Blake Beavan, or Kameron Loe. But there is always a chance they will connect and when they do — as in the case of lifting his career off the scrap heap with Saunders or finally coming into his own with Smoak — they can pay huge dividends for the team.
The difference between Smoak this year, Saunders last year and some of the failed examples I listed above are that Smoak and Saunders clearly dominated at spring training. There were no hiccups along the way. It was evident that big changes had occured. With the other guys, there were stumbles and more of a “let’s see” attitude heading into the season.
Look, this isn’t exact science. And when Smoak stumbled out of the gate the first three weeks of this season, I was very surprised and began wondering as well whether this was it for him.
But since those three weeks ended, he’s hit .300 with a .401 OBP, a .514 slugging mark and an OPS of .915. He’s hit 11 homers during that 257 at-bat span. And that’s with an oblique injury that cost him several weeks being thrown into the mix. Those opening three weeks have taken him the rest of the season to dig out of, but that’s exactly what 2013 has been for Smoak — a three-week slump, followed by an elite-level season so far.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/marin...in-smoak-being-done-were-greatly-exaggerated/
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6 runs, 3 earned runs, 3 errors.
Ummm... Raul.
Ummm... Raul.
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Games like these on a Felix start are more depressing than the usual depressing games
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Whoopsie Daisy
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