**Seattle Mariners 2024 Season Thread ** | 6-8 | v. Cubs & Reds |

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UGH. 

EDIT ~ Yes, Liddi for Jaso... 

 

[Sinner]

You've gotta be kidding me... more free baseball.

 

[russelltrillson]

I didnt stay up last night, I def wont be again

 

[Sinner]

UGH. Ugly end to an ugly series. 

 

[russelltrillson]

UGH. Ugly end to an ugly series. 

and it might get even uglier...nothing but AL West playoff contenders left

wish I could edit the friggin' thread title

+ More wins than last year, wont reach 100 losses

- Could still end up over 10+ sub .500..Hoping they can keep it single digits

Still got a chance to string some games together and still fall in between 75-77 wins (Im pushing it, I know)

 

[651akathepaul]

Fully expect (hope) Saunders and Seager to have big years next year

I can't expect anything because then I'll just get let down. I'm going with the hope.


Adam Jones is having a ball.

 

[elpablo21]

How has Truinfel played?

I remember his name being a big deal a couple years back

 

[651akathepaul]

How has Truinfel played?

I remember his name being a big deal a couple years back

I've only been following the M's in passing now, but I tuned in last night just as he hit a double. Holds the bat funny, but he got around on the pitch very nicely. Of course,this is a very limited sample size.


Where you been though? Vacation?...People was thinking you were RussellTrillson. Or...Are you?

 

[elpablo21]

Yeah I was on vacation, time of leave was approved by Method Man

Damn that Kate Upton

 

[Sinner]

 Back to 8 games under.

EDIT ~ And Ichi's tearing it up now... 

 

[elpablo21]

Hi guise

[h3]Carp a trade target[/h3]
12:57PM ET

[h5]Mike Carp | Mariners[/h5]

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Neither Justin Smoak nor Mike Carp has performed in 2012, but if the Seattle Mariners stick with one and part ways with the other, Smoak appears to have the leg up on staying with the M's. He's showing signs of a shorter swing and consistent production this month, which could make Carp more than expendable.

Despite his injuries and lack of performance, Carp could be a trade target for some clubs, writes Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe.

The Red Sox could be among those teams, as could the Toronto Blue Jays, Baltimore Orioles, Tampa Bay Rays and Cleveland Indians. It's a flier, and the trade cost isn't like to be very high, and Carp is likely to be cheaper than James Loney, Carlos Pena or Lyle Overbay, all of whom are set to be free agents.

Cafardo adds that the Red Sox may consider re-signing Loney and that the Rays may also 'kick the tires." Carp is not a free agent and his salary in 2013 will remain in the neighborhood of $500,000.

 

[elpablo21]

Ackley looking like our 2nd best defensive player

Who woulda thunk eh?

Edit: Smoak might **** around and get 20 bombs with a late push

 

[Sinner]

Too little, too late.

EDIT ~ 20K's... 

 

[elpablo21]

20, Yikes

 

[DsLee]

Smoak has definitely been helping his case in staying with the M's, dude slapped another one today...

I've been thinking about this for the past couple of days, is Felix really not on the trade market?
How would you guys feel for a swap for a legitimate young offensive player? I know Trout is definitely not touchable, but what about a Bryce Harper-type?

 

[651akathepaul]

Smoak has definitely been helping his case in staying with the M's, dude slapped another one today...
I've been thinking about this for the past couple of days, is Felix really not on the trade market?
How would you guys feel for a swap for a legitimate young offensive player? I know Trout is definitely not touchable, but what about a Bryce Harper-type?

Instead of another possible smoke-screen (no pun intended), I would have rather had Smoak just tank the rest of the year so they could move on. Hopefully this is it and finally pushes him over the top.


There's still a lot of time to get a bat without having to trade Felix. It would be a rush and panic move to trade him at this point. Maybe...Just maybe, next year if they start off absolutely horrible should it be considered. They've got the framework in place to field a real competitive team next year, so a bat or two in free agency could get this team to take the next step in their development.

Next year, I fully expect them to be in the WC hunt, with 2014 being the year they're a real contender.

 

[Sinner]

 another ND for Felix.

Felix is the only good thing for the M's right now... trade him and risk the PR nightmare from even the most loyal fans. 

 

[elpablo21]

If they traded Felix we better get two Bryce Harpers and a Harper-lite

Instead of another possible smoke-screen (no pun intended), I would have rather had Smoak just tank the rest of the year so they could move on. Hopefully this is it and finally pushes him over the top.

Could still happen?..depending on how fast Zunino gets here and seems to be on a pretty steady track, that could push someone like Jaso to play 1st

 

[finnns2003]

If they trade Felix, I've got Jack Z, Lincoln, and Armstrong meeting a pot of boiling water.

 

[elpablo21]

[h3]Two more to go[/h3]

[h3]M's catching situation in 2013[/h3]
11:51AM ET
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Heading into the offseason, the Seattle Mariners have an interesting backstop situation to address for next year.

John Jaso has had a very strong season in a platoon role, writes the Seattle Times' Geoff Baker, hitting .275 with 10 homers, 50 RBIs and more walks (53) than whiffs (47) -- good for a top-notch .392 OBP and very strong .853 OPS.

Thing is, Jaso has only started 37 games behind the dish, compared to rookie Jesus Montero (53 starts) and veteran Miguel Olivo (66), which makes the three-way split a potential area to clean up this winter.

While Olivo is generally considered the best defensive option of the trio, he's also been the worst on offense in 2012 with a .218 average and .235 OBP, even if he has hit 12 homers. Montero, meanwhile, has been better with the bat (.261-15-5 but remains a work-in-progress with the glove and may need to shift to DH full-time at some point.

Another factor to consider is that the M's hold a club option for $3 million on Olivo next year. It might seem excessive for any team -- much less one in desperate need of offense -- to carry three catchers, but given the success Jaso has had in his part-time role and the defensive liabilities of Montero, it might not be a shock to see Olivo back in Seattle.

Perhaps the best-case scenario is for Seattle to re-up Olivo in a similar role for next season then trade him in July -- in the depressed catching market, Olivo would actually have some value -- by which point catching prospect Mike Zunino, the No. 3 overall pick in June's draft, might be just about ready to take over the starting job.

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[h3]New CF for Seattle?[/h3]
8:19AM ET

[h5]Franklin Gutierrez | Mariners[/h5][h3] [/h3]

[h5]Center Field Options[/h5]

• B.J. Upton -- Free Agent
• Denard Span -- Minnesota Twins
• Chris Young -- Arizona Diamondbacks
• Juan Pierre -- Free Agent
• Shane Victorino -- Free Agent
• Jacoby Ellsbury -- Boston Red Sox
• Michael Bourn -- Free Agent
• Angel Pagan -- Free Agent

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The Seattle Mariners may feel the need to find a new centerfielder for 2013 and beyond, despite the fact that Franklin Gutierrez is under contract through 2013.

Gutierrez, who has played in just 130 games combined over the past two seasons, injured himself again Thursday crashing into the outfield wall in Anaheim. The M's removed Gutierrez from the game as a precaution, but the 29-year-old said he feels fine after experiencing some dizzy spells.

Gutierrez has suffered a concussion this season, along with heel and a pectoral injuries that delayed the start of his season. He also missed nearly half of 2011 with a stomach ailment, though that appears to be under control.

He's owed $7 million guaranteed for 2013 and the Mariners have an option on 2014 for $7.5 million, but they can exercise a buyout for a half million.

Seattle is thirsting for offense, but perhaps even more so need reliable veterans and Gutierrez doesn't fit that bill. Don't be surprised if GM Jack Zduriencik looks for a relatively inexpensive centerfielder over the offseason. One who can serve as a fourth outfielder or slide into left field should Gutierrez again grab hold of the job and fly.

 

[651akathepaul]

Yep. M's need to dump Franklin. He can't stay healthy. Span is the perfect type of hitter for Safeco. Only other CF's on that list worth consideration in my opinion are Ellsbury, Upton, and maybe Chris Young. Other guys probably flop in Seattle.

 

[Sinner]

Oh Guti... 

 The guy just can't get a break...

Scary thought... "While Olivo is generally considered the best defensive option of the trio..." 

I think Felix raised his ERA by 20 points last night?  

  Good thing the Angels are out of it, I guess?

Really, I'm ready for this season to end. 

 

[elpablo21]

Oh Guti... 

 The guy just can't get a break...

Scary thought... "While Olivo is generally considered the best defensive option of the trio..." 

I think Felix raised his ERA by 20 points last night?  

  Good thing the Angels are out of it, I guess?

Really, I'm ready for this season to end. 

I think we all are

 What a brutal finish

Erasmo lately has been a positive at least. We'll see if he can carry it over the course of a full season

There's a handful of guys that need to take some big steps next year, regardless of who they pick up if this team wants to make some noise

 

[Sinner]

Who's available this off-season... bat-wise?

"Mariners just announced outfield wall dimensions for 2013 will change. Left-center field to be up to 17-feet closer"...

Hmmm.  It's not like we're hitting fly-balls JUST short of the wall though. 

 

[elpablo21]

We'll see it how it goes. Sucks that I wont be able to use that excuse anymore

Who's available this off-season... bat-wise?

Josh Hamilton

 

 

 

This team is getting nobody, besides some marignal, past their prime acquisitions