Originally Posted by finnns2003
Originally Posted by a55a5in11
reading in the MLB thread about how Fangraphs is so great and thats why Kluber > Felix last year
Yall see fangraphs rating on Brad Miller's defense? apparently he is above average and the 14th best defensive SS in all of baseball
That #%&^ is all a joke. Anyone that takes a guy who started 0-5 with a 5+ era over a guy who has been as good as Felix for the last forever odd years, ok sure buddy.
8-1 with 1.9 ERA before last night, nah I'll take the guy with the higher loljk metrics
DRS and UZR/150 are the only defensive metrics I pay attention to.
And hey, a guy that can start a year poorly and finish it with an era sub 2.50 is impressive as hell. Shows how dominant he had to be to get back on track.
You gotta use all these metrics together with traditional stats to get the entire story. Indians have one of the worst defenses in baseball so a lot of Kluber's rough outings could've been exasperated by his fielders taking poor routes (hence the better fielder independent numbers). I like looking at FIP- as well since that factors in ballparks.