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╬:::OFFICIAL CLEVELAND CAVALIERS 2013 Season Thread::: ╬ Cavs Win 2013 #1 Draft Pick in Lottery!!!!
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@!%% stern tho
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Honestly man, I'm not mad at all. I truly, truly want Bradley Beal. His slashing/shooting abilities are already A-1. His defense is nice. He can actually dunk the ball like he's 6'6...
I think him and Kyrie would be a dominant backcourt! Go after a solid Quincy Miller with the 24th and I can see us right back in the mix again.
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Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
@ Stern holding that Almanac.
Honestly man, I'm not mad at all. I truly, truly want Bradley Beal. His slashing/shooting abilities are already A-1. His defense is nice. He can actually dunk the ball like he's 6'6...
I think him and Kyrie would be a dominant backcourt! Go after a solid Quincy Miller with the 24th and I can see us right back in the mix again.
I feel like they'd be too small. I like Michael K-G or honestly Harrison Barnes. Wish we would have traded Antawan to a conteder before the playoffs instead of just letting him go....
any chance we'll pick up a solid FA?
Fab Melo with the 24th Pick?
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If we draft MKG OR Beal, then draft Fab at 24 that'd be
What about trading 24, 33, and Next years first rounder to try and get another top 10, though?
What about trading 24, 33, and Next years first rounder to try and get another top 10, though?
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Lamb to Cavs among best draft fits
Robinson, Lamb and Sullinger would be wise draft choices for certain lottery teams.
This year's NBA draft is not full of future stars like the 2003 draft that produced LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh. It's not even going to end up like the 2008 draft that produced Derrick Rose, Kevin Love and Eric Gordon.
Few drafts have that much firepower. This is more typically a draft that will require sifting through a couple of years' worth of accumulated information on prospects. That means savvy evaluating for the combination of talent and fit will yield quality NBA players for some, but not all, teams.
Now that the 2012 NBA draft selection order is set, here are five great fits for teams in the lottery:
No. 4: Cleveland Cavaliers
Jeremy Lamb, Connecticut Huskies
Put Lamb in the backcourt with defending rookie of the year Kyrie Irving and the Cavaliers have solved a major problem for the next decade. Lamb's positional size, scoring ability and high ceiling make him a great fit for a rebuilding franchise.
While Lamb, who is younger than Irving, can certainly improve his strength, the notion that he is a soft player is foolish.
He showed his toughness in the NCAA tournament his freshman season. Despite Kemba Walker's brilliance all season, there would have been no NCAA title for the Huskies in 2011 without Lamb's heroics. His clutch shooting bailed the Huskies out even when Walker went ice cold in games against Arizona and Butler.
This season, on a chaotic Huskies team, Lamb averaged 17 points per game. And while he struggled at times with his consistency from 3-point range, he shot a blistering 60 percent inside the arc. He learned to make plays for himself off the dribble this season and his movement without the ball has always been Ray Allen-like.
Right now, Florida's Bradley Beal is the direction in which the herd is being pulled, and he is certainly a lottery pick. But if it were up to me, I'd take Lamb. In a draft full of questions, outside of Davis, the Cavs' decision about who they should partner Irving with could have an impact on the team for a decade. I think Lamb will be a star.
No. 2: Charlotte Bobcats
Thomas Robinson, Kansas Jayhawks
Don't overthink this pick, Bobcats. You need ready-to-go NBA players right now -- and a lot of them. Robinson will step into your lineup at the power forward position and contribute double-doubles right away.
Last July, I watched Robinson dominate the counselor workouts at the LeBron James Skills Academy in Akron, Ohio. And yes, Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and the Plumlees were all there competing as well. After biding his time behind the Morris twins at KU, this camp was Robinson's coming-out party.
Then, in what would be a dominating junior season, Robinson basically put the Jayhawks on his back in leading them to the national championship game. Here's how.
While Robinson is closer to 6-foot-9 than 6-10, he has the requisite NBA athleticism, low-post skills and high-energy motor that will endear him to any franchise in the lottery. And it's clear that rebounding tends to translate from college to the NBA. His 31 percent defensive rebounding rate was the best in college basketball. He physically dominated the country for most of the season.
Robinson's toughness and level of competence as a player is a great starting point for the Bobcats, who are obviously disappointed they won't land Davis. They have to start somewhere, and a guy who will get them points and rebounds immediately is a good place.
No. 3: Washington Wizards
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Kentucky Wildcats
In another draft, Gilchrist's overall skill package would relegate him to a lower slot in the lottery. Even as a rookie, he may struggle to score and even consistently knock down outside shots. But the one thing he would be able to hang his hat on in any draft is his competitiveness. And nowhere is that needed more than in Washington.
Gilchrist was the de facto leader of this year's young Kentucky national championship team, setting the tone with his energy, toughness and athleticism. He ran the floor relentlessly and attacked the rim with abandon. He'll rebound his position as well as anyone. And hopefully the way he's conditioned himself to play will rub off on a Wizards team that went 20-46 this season.
If Gilchrist can polish up his offensive game -- he shot 26 percent from beyond the college arc -- he'll start from Day 1 and compete for the NBA Rookie of the Year award. This is a great fit because he will play a prominent role immediately on a team that has to learn how to win.
No. 8: Toronto Raptors
Jared Sullinger, Ohio State Buckeyes
The Raptors could certainly use help at a number of spots, but I like them rebuilding their team with a front line that includes high-character Ohio State star Sullinger and 2011 first-round selection Jonas Valanciunas, the 6-11 Lithuanian 20-year-old who spent the past season playing in Europe.
Sullinger may not have the elite athleticism you'd want out of an NBA power forward, but he has always thrived on his toughness around the basket, his outstanding fundamentals and great basketball acumen. He drew an average of 6.1 fouls per 40 minutes this season and shoots a shade under 70 percent from the foul line. In a league full of undersized forwards, he'll get opponents in foul trouble.
Valanciunas, who dominated the Under-19 world championships last summer and who played well this season in EuroCup play, has some toughness of his own. His length and defensive potential at center will complement Sullinger's scoring and rebounding potential as well.
The two 20-year olds won't make the Raptors a playoff team, but it is a good start.
No. 10: New Orleans Hornets
Perry Jones, Baylor Bears
Davis, Gordon and -- most importantly -- Hornets coach Monty Williams will make a good marriage for Baylor's Perry Jones. First of all, the franchise has already hit the lottery (pun intended) with the chance to pick Davis at No. 1, so there's room here for the risk/reward of the equally prodigious talent, Jones.
Under the right circumstances, Jones could have been a top-three pick last year but elected to return to Baylor for his sophomore season. However, his long bouts of inconsistent play this season raise a lot of questions on the part of NBA decision-makers.
Here's what I know. At 6-11 and 240 pounds, Jones has a nearly perfect NBA power forward's frame and the requisite athleticism to be an All-Star. And few at his size can handle the ball like he does. In addition, he is a high-character kid who will work as hard at his game as Williams pushes him.
If Jones is missing anything, it is the "nasty" (as Gregg Popovich would put it) and toughness needed to compete night in and night out against guys like Kevin Garnett and Bosh. And he'll need it, because I don't believe he has the skills to float on the perimeter as a small forward, although he's being marketed that way.
Williams is one of the bright young coaches in the NBA and Jones has a lot to learn about the game, but he will be a willing learner. If Williams can get the 20-year-old to begin to play to his potential, the Hornets' rebuilding process will be sped up considerably. It's a gamble that I would take.
Robinson, Lamb and Sullinger would be wise draft choices for certain lottery teams.
This year's NBA draft is not full of future stars like the 2003 draft that produced LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh. It's not even going to end up like the 2008 draft that produced Derrick Rose, Kevin Love and Eric Gordon.
Few drafts have that much firepower. This is more typically a draft that will require sifting through a couple of years' worth of accumulated information on prospects. That means savvy evaluating for the combination of talent and fit will yield quality NBA players for some, but not all, teams.
Now that the 2012 NBA draft selection order is set, here are five great fits for teams in the lottery:
No. 4: Cleveland Cavaliers
Jeremy Lamb, Connecticut Huskies
Put Lamb in the backcourt with defending rookie of the year Kyrie Irving and the Cavaliers have solved a major problem for the next decade. Lamb's positional size, scoring ability and high ceiling make him a great fit for a rebuilding franchise.
While Lamb, who is younger than Irving, can certainly improve his strength, the notion that he is a soft player is foolish.
He showed his toughness in the NCAA tournament his freshman season. Despite Kemba Walker's brilliance all season, there would have been no NCAA title for the Huskies in 2011 without Lamb's heroics. His clutch shooting bailed the Huskies out even when Walker went ice cold in games against Arizona and Butler.
This season, on a chaotic Huskies team, Lamb averaged 17 points per game. And while he struggled at times with his consistency from 3-point range, he shot a blistering 60 percent inside the arc. He learned to make plays for himself off the dribble this season and his movement without the ball has always been Ray Allen-like.
Right now, Florida's Bradley Beal is the direction in which the herd is being pulled, and he is certainly a lottery pick. But if it were up to me, I'd take Lamb. In a draft full of questions, outside of Davis, the Cavs' decision about who they should partner Irving with could have an impact on the team for a decade. I think Lamb will be a star.
No. 2: Charlotte Bobcats
Thomas Robinson, Kansas Jayhawks
Don't overthink this pick, Bobcats. You need ready-to-go NBA players right now -- and a lot of them. Robinson will step into your lineup at the power forward position and contribute double-doubles right away.
Last July, I watched Robinson dominate the counselor workouts at the LeBron James Skills Academy in Akron, Ohio. And yes, Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and the Plumlees were all there competing as well. After biding his time behind the Morris twins at KU, this camp was Robinson's coming-out party.
Then, in what would be a dominating junior season, Robinson basically put the Jayhawks on his back in leading them to the national championship game. Here's how.
While Robinson is closer to 6-foot-9 than 6-10, he has the requisite NBA athleticism, low-post skills and high-energy motor that will endear him to any franchise in the lottery. And it's clear that rebounding tends to translate from college to the NBA. His 31 percent defensive rebounding rate was the best in college basketball. He physically dominated the country for most of the season.
Robinson's toughness and level of competence as a player is a great starting point for the Bobcats, who are obviously disappointed they won't land Davis. They have to start somewhere, and a guy who will get them points and rebounds immediately is a good place.
No. 3: Washington Wizards
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Kentucky Wildcats
In another draft, Gilchrist's overall skill package would relegate him to a lower slot in the lottery. Even as a rookie, he may struggle to score and even consistently knock down outside shots. But the one thing he would be able to hang his hat on in any draft is his competitiveness. And nowhere is that needed more than in Washington.
Gilchrist was the de facto leader of this year's young Kentucky national championship team, setting the tone with his energy, toughness and athleticism. He ran the floor relentlessly and attacked the rim with abandon. He'll rebound his position as well as anyone. And hopefully the way he's conditioned himself to play will rub off on a Wizards team that went 20-46 this season.
If Gilchrist can polish up his offensive game -- he shot 26 percent from beyond the college arc -- he'll start from Day 1 and compete for the NBA Rookie of the Year award. This is a great fit because he will play a prominent role immediately on a team that has to learn how to win.
No. 8: Toronto Raptors
Jared Sullinger, Ohio State Buckeyes
The Raptors could certainly use help at a number of spots, but I like them rebuilding their team with a front line that includes high-character Ohio State star Sullinger and 2011 first-round selection Jonas Valanciunas, the 6-11 Lithuanian 20-year-old who spent the past season playing in Europe.
Sullinger may not have the elite athleticism you'd want out of an NBA power forward, but he has always thrived on his toughness around the basket, his outstanding fundamentals and great basketball acumen. He drew an average of 6.1 fouls per 40 minutes this season and shoots a shade under 70 percent from the foul line. In a league full of undersized forwards, he'll get opponents in foul trouble.
Valanciunas, who dominated the Under-19 world championships last summer and who played well this season in EuroCup play, has some toughness of his own. His length and defensive potential at center will complement Sullinger's scoring and rebounding potential as well.
The two 20-year olds won't make the Raptors a playoff team, but it is a good start.
No. 10: New Orleans Hornets
Perry Jones, Baylor Bears
Davis, Gordon and -- most importantly -- Hornets coach Monty Williams will make a good marriage for Baylor's Perry Jones. First of all, the franchise has already hit the lottery (pun intended) with the chance to pick Davis at No. 1, so there's room here for the risk/reward of the equally prodigious talent, Jones.
Under the right circumstances, Jones could have been a top-three pick last year but elected to return to Baylor for his sophomore season. However, his long bouts of inconsistent play this season raise a lot of questions on the part of NBA decision-makers.
Here's what I know. At 6-11 and 240 pounds, Jones has a nearly perfect NBA power forward's frame and the requisite athleticism to be an All-Star. And few at his size can handle the ball like he does. In addition, he is a high-character kid who will work as hard at his game as Williams pushes him.
If Jones is missing anything, it is the "nasty" (as Gregg Popovich would put it) and toughness needed to compete night in and night out against guys like Kevin Garnett and Bosh. And he'll need it, because I don't believe he has the skills to float on the perimeter as a small forward, although he's being marketed that way.
Williams is one of the bright young coaches in the NBA and Jones has a lot to learn about the game, but he will be a willing learner. If Williams can get the 20-year-old to begin to play to his potential, the Hornets' rebuilding process will be sped up considerably. It's a gamble that I would take.
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Originally Posted by FinallyFamous
If we draft MKG OR Beal, then draft Fab at 24 that'd be
What about trading 24, 33, and Next years first rounder to try and get another top 10, though?
If the Cavs were to land MKG and Fab, that potentially lock up PG, SG/SF, PF and maybe center for a while if Fab and MKG blossom.
If you trade those picks, who do you get with the top 10? Now if you can land two players out of MKG, Beal, Robinson or Lamb. That'd be very interesting.
Kinda wonder if the Cavs could have traded a few players like Twan and someone else to get a late 1st from a playoff team.
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Barnes-to-Cleveland inevitable?
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UPDATE: The draft is still 22 days away, but the buzz continues to be that the Cavaliers are high on Harrison Barnes. So high in fact, that reports are that the Cavs even like Barnes more than Bradley Beal. Unless Cleveland trades out of the No. 4 pick, or all of this is merely a smokescreen, Barnes looks likely to be the pick.
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Before there was Anthony Davis at Kentucky in 2011, there was Harrison Barnes at North Carolina in 2010 -- the top recruit in the land. Barnes didn't fully live up to the hype in his two quick seasons in Chapel Hill, and now the question many have is what type of player he'll be in the NBA. More to the point -- how high will he go on draft day?
As it stands today, Barnes is a longshot to go in the top three. Davis will be off the board first, with Thomas Robinson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Brad Beal vying for the Charlotte and Washington picks that follow.
The team to watch out for with Barnes is Cleveland at pick No. 4. Cavaliers GM Chris Grant is said to really love Barnes' game, but if the Cavs stay at this spot will they have the guts to draft Barnes ahead of a Beal or Andre Drummond?
The 6-foot-8, 210-pound Barnes was fairly one-dimensional at UNC, too often settling for the perimeter jumper. For you comparison addicts out there, Barnes is thought to have the ceiling of someone like Luol Deng and the floor of a Marvin Williams or Martell Webster.
Even still, some like Jeff Goodman at CBSSports.com still believe he'll be a better pro than college player, and the Cavs will have to believe the same if they take him at No. 4.
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Cleveland Cavaliers
UPDATE: The draft is still 22 days away, but the buzz continues to be that the Cavaliers are high on Harrison Barnes. So high in fact, that reports are that the Cavs even like Barnes more than Bradley Beal. Unless Cleveland trades out of the No. 4 pick, or all of this is merely a smokescreen, Barnes looks likely to be the pick.
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Before there was Anthony Davis at Kentucky in 2011, there was Harrison Barnes at North Carolina in 2010 -- the top recruit in the land. Barnes didn't fully live up to the hype in his two quick seasons in Chapel Hill, and now the question many have is what type of player he'll be in the NBA. More to the point -- how high will he go on draft day?
As it stands today, Barnes is a longshot to go in the top three. Davis will be off the board first, with Thomas Robinson, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Brad Beal vying for the Charlotte and Washington picks that follow.
The team to watch out for with Barnes is Cleveland at pick No. 4. Cavaliers GM Chris Grant is said to really love Barnes' game, but if the Cavs stay at this spot will they have the guts to draft Barnes ahead of a Beal or Andre Drummond?
The 6-foot-8, 210-pound Barnes was fairly one-dimensional at UNC, too often settling for the perimeter jumper. For you comparison addicts out there, Barnes is thought to have the ceiling of someone like Luol Deng and the floor of a Marvin Williams or Martell Webster.
Even still, some like Jeff Goodman at CBSSports.com still believe he'll be a better pro than college player, and the Cavs will have to believe the same if they take him at No. 4.
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I said this in another thread ...
MY GUESS is the Cavs board looks like this:
1. MKG
2 Barnes
3. Beal
I will be happy with whoever.. I like Barnes I think he's what we need..... MKG as well..
We can't go wrong.
MY GUESS is the Cavs board looks like this:
1. MKG
2 Barnes
3. Beal
I will be happy with whoever.. I like Barnes I think he's what we need..... MKG as well..
We can't go wrong.
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I think Gee is developing nicely - Barnes starting plus maybe a late 2 guard or hey maybe signing Eric "snitchin %+@" Gordon this summer. we have plenty of cap space
shoulda traded Jamison
shoulda traded Jamison
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Could Redd be a Cavalier?
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Michael Redd | Suns
The Cleveland Cavaliers are going to say goodbye to veterans Antawn Jamison and Anthony Parker and one free agent they might sign is Michael Redd, suggests Sam Amico of FOXSportsOhio.com.
"Every team needs veterans, regardless of the process," said an NBA executive. "Redd would be a good fit there coming off the bench."
The Cavaliers could use his shooting ability and leadership on and off the court. Redd is a native of Columbus, Ohio.
I think veteran presence is important - especially with such a young team even though Kyrie seems like a good kid. Verajao being there is cool to me though - boobie too considering they've been there so long. Everyone forgets about boobiei thought he was solid defensively and coming off the bench this season
I would love to see another guard in the 2nd round - a real fire starter to come off the bench like sessions did.
what do u guys think?
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I wouldn't mind Darius Miller in the second round or Buford just flat out scorers
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Cavs trading out of pick No. 4?
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The Cavaliers could make things very interesting on draft day, and right now it's difficult to predict what they will do. They've been tied to Harrison Barnes at pick No. 4, but in recent rumors have come out that they've offered up their top pick in several different trades.
Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld.com tweeted over the weekend about a possible scenario that involved Cleveland trading picks No. 4 and 22 to Portland for its two lottery picks at No. 6 and 11. In that scenario, the Cavs could likely still get Barnes but also add another big talent like Perry Jones III.
Then word came out today from our own Chad Ford that the Cavs offered No. 4, No. 24, No. 33 and No. 34 to the Hornets for No. 1 (Anthony Davis). They were quickly rejected by New Orleans, but it's another sign that the Cavs aren't content staying at No. 4.
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Cleveland Cavaliers
The Cavaliers could make things very interesting on draft day, and right now it's difficult to predict what they will do. They've been tied to Harrison Barnes at pick No. 4, but in recent rumors have come out that they've offered up their top pick in several different trades.
Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld.com tweeted over the weekend about a possible scenario that involved Cleveland trading picks No. 4 and 22 to Portland for its two lottery picks at No. 6 and 11. In that scenario, the Cavs could likely still get Barnes but also add another big talent like Perry Jones III.
Then word came out today from our own Chad Ford that the Cavs offered No. 4, No. 24, No. 33 and No. 34 to the Hornets for No. 1 (Anthony Davis). They were quickly rejected by New Orleans, but it's another sign that the Cavs aren't content staying at No. 4.
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The pretty much proves that Cavs aren't content with the #4 pick.
I could live with Barnes and PJIII
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Kyrie
Barnes (if he plays the 2)
PJ3
Thompson
Varejao
..sick lol.
I could live with Barnes and PJIII
Kyrie
Barnes (if he plays the 2)
PJ3
Thompson
Varejao
..sick lol.
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Cavaliers close to signing Euro Star Mirza Teletovic.
why does that matter? watch this video of the big that can shoot from deep.
would be a solid free agent acquisition seeing as how we're so far under the cap. Considering Jamison is gone we could use a big that can stretch the floor. What do you guys think?
why does that matter? watch this video of the big that can shoot from deep.
would be a solid free agent acquisition seeing as how we're so far under the cap. Considering Jamison is gone we could use a big that can stretch the floor. What do you guys think?
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Im all for it .. That video was
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thanks to dan gilbert for helping in vetoing the chris paul trade
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Any plans of Dan Gilbert sending out another comic sans email?
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hopefully that guy would be more like dirk and less like hedo. we cant afford to blow this draft..........its the only way we will ever get anywhere
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Strong rumors of Cavs moving up to #2. I don't see why though, I firmly believe MKG will fall into our laps at #4.
No need to give up our #24 - I'm really hoping we can manage to keep that pick throughout all the fiasco that leads up to our first pick.
No need to give up our #24 - I'm really hoping we can manage to keep that pick throughout all the fiasco that leads up to our first pick.
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No need to force up to #2 I agree
From Barnes to Beal to MKG at this point I'm just psyched to see who we get finally and hopefully keep that 24th pick
From Barnes to Beal to MKG at this point I'm just psyched to see who we get finally and hopefully keep that 24th pick
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I would really love to land Beal at 4, I have a feeling we makes some sort of trade by draft day.....
P.S. Congrats to the kid from Akron, wish you would of done it here, but you deserved it, and it was your time, even me being bitter can't hate on that
P.S. Congrats to the kid from Akron, wish you would of done it here, but you deserved it, and it was your time, even me being bitter can't hate on that
