The Official Anime & Manga Thread Vol: 三

[tdogg2k]

Getting tired of hearing about naruto when you realize how good it could have been

same, as big of a fan of the series overall I am/was. im glad it ended (well enough)

Not sure if I like Kill La Kill. I like the story so far but I like more serious animes. The sillyness and stuff popping up onscreen reminds me of Scott Pilgrim a little bit. The stripper sailor uniform Ryuko wears is not what I was expecting.

It actually starts getting a bit more serious. (which is what turned a lot of people off)
still has its antics though. i would say just watch it through see how you like the way it finishes.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Getting tired of hearing about naruto when you realize how good it could have been

Too bad because it ain't over

More tidbits from Jump Festa

*Kishi said he plans on writing about what happened to Orochimaru

* The older Naruto we see in the last was originally a design for a full Naruto Part 3 series but Kishi decided against continuing the main story

 

[Based Jesus]

Aint nobody give a **** about orochimaru 

Show me Jiraiya up in ninja heaven.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Jiraiya irrelevant bruh he'd catch hands from pretty much every major character after chapter 600 anyway

 

[Based Jesus]

Jiraiya irrelevant bruh he'd catch hands from pretty much every major character after chapter 600 anyway

I forgive you.

 

[tdogg2k]

Jiraiya irrelevant bruh he'd catch hands from pretty much every major character after chapter 600 anyway

Like do you really still think that??? (without turning this in to a power levels and he is better in this way blah blah blah.)
You don't think he would've been able to hold his own somehow vs a lot of people or he wasn't smart enough to combat some people.

 

[blakep267]

Jiraiya irrelevant bruh he'd catch hands from pretty much every major character after chapter 600 anyway

Like do you really still think that??? (without turning this in to a power levels and he is better in this way blah blah blah.)
You don't think he would've been able to hold his own somehow vs a lot of people or he wasn't smart enough to combat some people.

simple. He wasn't strong enough when compared to the big boys. Jiraiya is Picolo. Not a helpless character, but he's not ready to fight with super saiyans

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Jiraiya is no slouch; he would have beat Pain had he the full knowledge of Nagato's abilities, but lbr here.  Pain was fodder by the time the 4th war happened

Even Kakashi and Gai were confident that they could beat the Six Paths Technique with enough strategy, which is why Obito didn't use those powers when he fought them.

^^^ Jiraiya being Piccolo is a great analogy. He's not weak but he's catching hands from the top tiers if he gets buck

 

[blakep267]

Jiraiya is no slouch; he would have beat Pain had he the full knowledge of Nagato's abilities, but lbr here.  Pain was fodder by the time the 4th war happened

Even Kakashi and Gai were confident that they could beat the Six Paths Technique with enough strategy, which is why Obito didn't use those powers when he fought them.


^^^ Jiraiya being Piccolo is a great analogy. He's not weak but he's catching hands from the top tiers if he gets buck

I see it as the Pain/jiraiya fight was like when frieza fought piccolo and hadn't transformed again( was still 3rd transformation I think). Picolo was standing his own. but once Pain brought out all the bodies( Frieza transformed again) he was done

And also, he wasn't fast enough. by the end, like everybody was super fast. Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara, Minato, Tobirama. Those dudes were fast as hell. He wouldn't have been able to keep up with them, or even go into sage mode without getting murked.

 

[tdogg2k]

And also, he wasn't fast enough. by the end, like everybody was super fast. Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara, Minato, Tobirama. Those dudes were fast as hell. He wouldn't have been able to keep up with them, or even go into sage mode without getting murked.

honestly though the last 100 or so chapters Kishi started pulling crap out of no where and giving these ridic ssj4 type levels to people. while everyone else was just krilin.

I somewhat consider PRE madara's and old kages revival and Narutos jinchurruci perfect sync with kyubbi. DBZ up to Frieza arc as well.
but If Naruto was Goku in that arc. and let's say sasuke, and the rest were equal to Goku.

that would put Jiraya at Vegeta....not piccolo.
I would say Tsunade and the other 3 kages (minus 4th raikage ) would be the piccolos

but kishi turned the Frieza arc up to bascially DBGT levels out of no where. which in my view completely messed up the story..


at best I'd give you this about Tobirama and Harshima and madara. They would have always been Brolly.


But I think Jiraya. (pre dbgt like kishi made it) could handle or stand on his own with Minato, Naruto and Sasuke, 4th raikage

 

[blakep267]

And also, he wasn't fast enough. by the end, like everybody was super fast. Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara, Minato, Tobirama. Those dudes were fast as hell. He wouldn't have been able to keep up with them, or even go into sage mode without getting murked.

honestly though the last 100 or so chapters Kishi started pulling crap out of no where and giving these ridic ssj4 type levels to people. while everyone else was just krilin.

I somewhat consider PRE madara's and old kages revival and Narutos jinchurruci perfect sync with kyubbi. DBZ up to Frieza arc as well.
but If Naruto was Goku in that arc. and let's say sasuke, and the rest were equal to Goku.

that would put Jiraya at Vegeta....not piccolo.
I would say Tsunade and the other 3 kages (minus 4th raikage ) would be the piccolos

but kishi turned the Frieza arc up to bascially DBGT levels out of no where. which in my view completely messed up the story..


at best I'd give you this about Tobirama and Harshima and madara. They would have always been Brolly.


But I think Jiraya. (pre dbgt like kishi made it) could handle or stand on his own with Minato, Naruto and Sasuke, 4th raikage

Ehh, I know people like Jiraiya but his skill set wouldn't have been enough to really beat anybody really strong( his best feat was beating 3 pain bodies). lets look at it like this. How would he have counteracted certain characters.

Deidara, who's strengths are mobility and bombs. How is he going to effectively evade the bombs( some of which are invisible) and get into range to attack a flying foe? He can't really.

Raikage- Jiraiya doesn't have a sharingan or FTG to keep up. Or Susanoo to take his blows

And lets not even mention Minato. Naruto surpassed Jiraiya pretty much around the Pain fight and Sasuke surpassed him as soon as he got his mangekyo from Itachi

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

The power levels were actually always consistent to me in Naruto barring some extreme exceptions, if you go back and re-read from the beginning
Everything I just posted occured pre-chapter 300 and were performed by characters or forms of characters that are naturally lower on the totem pole than the likes of end of series Naruto/Sasuke, Hashirama, Madara, Minato, Tobirama, the higher-tailed Bijuu, etc.

You had mid-level Jounins blowing up entire forests, the WEAKEST of the Bijuu obliterating landscapes, the Hokage destroying castles with casual attacks, Genins permanently altering the landscape, akatsuki nuking cities and claiming to have singlehandedly conquering countries.

Hell the opening narration of the series explained that the Kyuubi could destroy mountains and raise tsunamis by wagging its tails. If you didn't expect Naruto to be pulling some DBZ type **** once he tamed Kurama you were thinking wishfully. Double once he got the power of all nine tailed beasts. Even the DBZ-type nature of the final Naruto/Sasuke battle made a whole lot of sense when you considered the energy sources they were channeling at that time.

Kishi did a good job of setting up the hype early on so you knew by the end you'd be seeing some wild ****. At the end of Part I Kakashi outright states that the only reason the gigantic Valley of the End exists is because Hashirama and Madara fought there.

 

[jays25]

Getting tired of hearing about naruto when you realize how good it could have been

Yeah, i'll never get over the tremendous drop in quality that occured as Part 2 went on. The entire war from start to finish was crap, and it eventually just came off as Kishi not knowing how to properly conclude things. Damn shame. I still look back on the series fondly though, having followed it for many years.

"Jiraiya is Picolo. Not a helpless character, but he's not ready to fight with super saiyans"

B blakep267 Not a bad summation, but i'd then argue that you'd have to place various Kages in the same ballpark. Regardless, by the end of it all Naruto and Sasuke have entered a new tier that few others equal. (I'd only say Hagoromo, Hamura, and Hagoromo's sons)

 

[mugen81]

I Never watched this Broly Episode..
Straight sitting here like:

 

[delete1234]

I starting realizing Naruto was trash when gaarra didn't die after losing shukkaku. The excuse they came up w/ was

 

[jays25]

I starting realizing Naruto was trash when gaarra didn't die after losing shukkaku. The excuse they came up w/ was

I thought that Nagato reviving everyone at the end of his attack on Konoha was one of the single worst parts in the entire story. Nearly ruined what was one of my favorite arcs honestly. Gaara being revived was what made me start to think that Kishi had a problem killing ally characters off, and Nagato really drove that point home. Then he tried to recover too little too late with Neji's pointless death.

 

[blakep267]

Getting tired of hearing about naruto when you realize how good it could have been

Yeah, i'll never get over the tremendous drop in quality that occured as Part 2 went on. The entire war from start to finish was crap, and it eventually just came off as Kishi not knowing how to properly conclude things. Damn shame. I still look back on the series fondly though, having followed it for many years.

"Jiraiya is Picolo. Not a helpless character, but he's not ready to fight with super saiyans"

B blakep267 Not a bad summation, but i'd then argue that you'd have to place various Kages in the same ballpark. Regardless, by the end of it all Naruto and Sasuke have entered a new tier that few others equal. (I'd only say Hagoromo, Hamura, and Hagoromo's sons)

I don't really think much of the kages. Tsunade has always been terrible. Kishi wrote Raikage to be an idiot hothead so he pretty much loses to anybody with half a brain, even weaker. Gaara has potential. Oonoki is probably the strongest of them since his dust ability is so devastating, but he's also old. And the mizukage has a really good skill set, but she's a woman in Naruto. So she's automatically written to be incapable of doing anything significant

I starting realizing Naruto was trash when gaarra didn't die after losing shukkaku. The excuse they came up w/ was

I think I realized Naruto had completely gone down hill when these 3 things started to happen

1. when Naruto and Kakashi fought Itachi's clone. And I realized, there was a 3 year skip and Naruto learned pretty much nothing( meaning there was going to be an inevitable training arc)

2.The crap that was sakura and chiyo vs sasori.

3. All the rookie genin were forgotten about and replaced with the Sasuke/Naruto show

 

[tdogg2k]

I Never watched this Broly Episode..
Straight sitting here like:]

I just realized I don't think i've ever seen the original brolly movie either. only the one where the kids fought him. need to go download

I thought that Nagato reviving everyone at the end of his attack on Konoha was one of the single worst parts in the entire story. Nearly ruined what was one of my favorite arcs honestly. Gaara being revived was what made me start to think that Kishi had a problem killing ally characters off, and Nagato really drove that point home. Then he tried to recover too little too late with Neji's pointless death.

there was no way he was going to let all those people who died in the villiage to remain dead. not after naruto found Nagato and they did a friendship is key type ending..

that would've led to an awesome story and a reason for Naruto to train harder but ofcourse we didnt get it

I think I realized Naruto had completely gone down hill when these 3 things started to happen

1. when Naruto and Kakashi fought Itachi's clone. And I realized, there was a 3 year skip and Naruto learned pretty much nothing( meaning there was going to be an inevitable training arc)

2.The crap that was sakura and chiyo vs sasori.

3. All the rookie genin were forgotten about and replaced with the Sasuke/Naruto show

I agree and disagree with this. 1. was just a bad fight, honestly and with as much as people praise itachi that's pretty much how it should've went down.
Yes though kakashi and Naruto should've done a better job at handling it though.

2. I wasn't mad at this fight. this was still a pre-cursor to us possibly seeing more growth in more characters than just Naruto and sasuke, gave Sakura time to shine. and gave us false hope (at the time) we'd see everyone else get some good fights

3. You're absolutely right. I mean yea the story isn't about the rookie 9, but we could've gotten more out of them in shippuden.
aside from Team gai fighting team gai clones. we saw nothing from others really. nothing of note at least

 

[delete1234]

Another thing that made naruto garbage, was the constant D riding of sasuke :x :x
I remember dropping that **** at one point because I was like damn just name this **** "Sasuke" already man. Been hoing naruto since day 1

 

[tdogg2k]

idk man im not mad about Sasuke, because that was a great arc when Naruto first started. chuunin exams and save sasuke arc.

the Love fest is what made the manga.

it was just the illusion he gave us pre ts that the manga was going to be about everyone helping and not solely Naruto like it turned out to be.

 

[jays25]

Sasuke came to take up just as much of the story as the main character. In general, the Uchiha became far more important than they should have been to the story.

B blakep267 One of the few good things about the war was that I felt all the Kage got to show their stuff and prove themselves. As a person who never liked Tsunade from the start, I thought Kishi did a good job developing her into a powerful character. Certainly not the most powerful Hokage or Kage, but powerful nonetheless. Her healing abilities were high enough that even Madara praised them. Onoki is definitely the strongers in my opinion, but has issues due to his age. Yet his jutsu still has the ability to completely erase anyone and any other technique from existence. That's OP as well. A's one of the fastest characters in the story, at the end of it only Naruto and Sasuke are faster. Gaara definitely has potential he hasn't achieved yet, but even then what he has at the moment is still enough to allow him to fight alongside the others; sand that reacts to his thoughts and is wicked fast. Mei then has a combination of techniques, and I actually consider her to be the least impressive of the group, only because everyone else is against just that OP. Yet she's one of the few people we've seen with multiple Kekkai Genkai. They weren't on Madara or Hashirama's level, and in the end Naruto and Sasuke surpassed them all, but before those four i'd say they'd each be able to hold their own against anyone else in the story. (Not necessarily win, but they'd do well, and i'd again throw Jiraiya in with them)

 

[iYen]

I Never watched this Broly Episode..
Straight sitting here like:

 

[2sappy]

Dont remember if I posted the list or not, but here's the anime lineup for winter.
http://static.neregate.com/2014/12/neregate.com-Winter-2014-2015-Anime-Chart-v2.jpg

The Jojo and Aldnoah Zero hype is real.

 

[2sappy]

The god himself cometh in the next episode of OP.

 

[delete1234]

This latest episode was pretty

Young kyros