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mben32 · Dec 29, 2007

Originally Posted by MarsIV

In what way am I down playing a triple double? look at where its getting him.. He does the same season every year and it gets him and his team no where. While tony parker is winning titles and MVPs. Yall keep coming with that BS.

overall imo kidd is the best pg in the league.

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Once again, Nash, Parker, and Paul all have there teams in the top 3. How are the Nets doing? they've got 2 top 5 scorer's and they play in the east, yet they still suck. good job Kidd...

we are not talking team..i can give 2 flying!#+*!$ about what there teams are doing. put kidd on the spurs or the suns and see where he is then..i dontthink you understand that it's your personel and dont give me that 2 top 5 scorers when your were just saying vc fell off....tony parker is a product ofhis system...kidd is the best overall pg in the league...im still

at you saying all kidd is good for is a triple double..as anindividual how much more do u have to do to be good for something?? he damn near averages a triple double

airjordan jb23 · Dec 29, 2007

I assume we are talking about this season, & not careers, correct? Kidd has a HOF career, Parker doesn't, so if we're talking about this seasonlets take a look at this:

Kidd has more rebounds a game than Parker, 8.7 to 3.3 a game.
Kidd has more assists a game than Parker, 10.5 to 6.6 a game.
Kidd has more steals a game than Parker, 1.8 to 0.7 a game.
Kidd has a better free throw & 3 point % as well than Parker.

Parker has more points game, but we all know scoring a lot of points as a point guard isn't really an important thing, especially since you're supposedto set you're teammates up.

Now, fill em in, where is Parker a better player? Leading in 1 catagory makes you a better player? Fill me in becaus eas of now I don't see where you getwhere Parker is better than Kidd, whether in his career or right now.

& remember, its not right to bring in the more wins arguement since supporting cast to you is a big argument...remember, don't be a hypocrit.

marsiv · Dec 29, 2007

Now, fill em in, where is Parker a better player? Leading in 1 catagory makes you a better player? Fill me in becaus eas of now I don't see where you get where Parker is better than Kidd, whether in his career or right now.

Winning titles.

All of Kidds stats are irrelevant with out a ring.

Parker has lead his team to a title, and won finals mvp. he didnt have a free ride.

airjordan jb23 · Dec 29, 2007

Winning titles.

Did Parker win those titles by himself? Only him?

Im talking about head to head, who is the better Point Guard? You said it was Parker, your reason...winning titles? Does that mean Jacque Vaughn is a better PGthan Jason Kidd? Because he has a title? Please fill me in on what that whole Wade supporting cast argument against Arenas was about? Since Wade won the title& Arenas didn't, doesn't that defy your whole other argument?

mben32 · Dec 29, 2007

All of Kidds stats are irrelevant with out a ring.

yea i guess all these HOF'ers stats areirrelevant too since they don't have a ring:
Charles Barkley
Pat Ewing
Reggie Miller
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Dominique Wilkins
Clyde Drexler
Alex English

airjordan jb23 · Dec 29, 2007

^^

Yea

All of Kidds stats are irrelevant with out a ring.
As mentioned above, thats untrue because all of those stats will help get him to the HOF & those 'irrelevant' stats will list him asone of the greatest PG's of all time.

i3 · Dec 30, 2007

Kidd and TP9 have different styles oh handling the PG..

Rings don't have much significance when comparing head to head.

Kidd's more of a pass first, fast-break-dish-to-kmart-back-in-the-day type player... he gets everyone involved. His offense comes 2nd. Now Parker puts hisoffense first, he is naturally quick and thats how he earns his money.

Im not too sure if Nash is a combination of these two. But a more accurate comparison would be between Nash and Kidd. Thats more of a headache.

kash55 · Dec 30, 2007

@ all the hate against Kidd.

srvballer · Dec 30, 2007

1. Kobe
2. Nash
3. CP3
4. AI
5. Wade
6. JKidd
7. B Diddy
8. Arenas
9. Billups
10. D Williams

ac4three · Dec 30, 2007

Either way, it still was a weak way to win from Chauncey who is known for hitting big shots. As fans, we don't want to see games decided like that... ever.
Are you serious??? Are you actually criticizing Chauncey Billups for the way in which he won a game? That is unbelievable...

3pledouble · Dec 30, 2007

@ Wade not being on that list. He should be number 1 easily.

kidoopz · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by MarsIV

In what way am I down playing a triple double? look at where its getting him.. He does the same season every year and it gets him and his team no where. While tony parker is winning titles and MVPs. Yall keep coming with that BS.

overall imo kidd is the best pg in the league.

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Once again, Nash, Parker, and Paul all have there teams in the top 3. How are the Nets doing? they've got 2 top 5 scorer's and they play in the east, yet they still suck. good job Kidd...

Um.. Parker doesn't have a team .. He was inherited on that Spurs team, and dang sure isn't the leader of the Spurs.. Soooo No... and Parker is notbetter a pg than Nash, Kidd, Paul, Davis, Billups.. I do not ever recall Parker taking heed in the final minutes and leading the Spurs to a victory.. It'smainly Duncan or Ginobili, Parker is very lucky to be in that situation... Tell me how Parker is better than Baron Davis..

xtapolapacetl · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by friscostylez

Couldn't have been more wrong. Talk about Pump fake, hit your opponent in the air then go to the ft line and hit the game winning fts.

I would say it was the other way around in that case. He didn't hit his opponent. The opponent hit him.

newbs24 · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by friscostylez

Originally Posted by grittyman20

Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons
Pump, fake, hit the J. Chauncey Billups showed off his skills last week when he nailed the game winning shot and handed the Boston Celtics their first home loss of the season. The veteran point guard doesn't just play good basketball, he plays smart basketball. His last second spoiler proved that is game is just as much mental as it is physical.

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Couldn't have been more wrong. Talk about Pump fake, hit your opponent in the air then go to the ft line and hit the game winning fts.

I hate the Pisstons but you guys have Paul Pierce on your team. Talk about a guy jumping into people nonstop. That dude is the king of throwing himselfinto FTs.

bullsrepeat3peat · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by MarsIV

Now, fill em in, where is Parker a better player? Leading in 1 catagory makes you a better player? Fill me in becaus eas of now I don't see where you get where Parker is better than Kidd, whether in his career or right now.

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Winning titles.

All of Kidds stats are irrelevant with out a ring.

Parker has lead his team to a title, and won finals mvp. he didnt have a free ride.
so by your championship logic I suppose Tony Parker is better than Stockton, Payton, or KJ ever were and Horry is better than Malone or Barkley were.

cali dro cardo · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by friscostylez

Originally Posted by grittyman20

Chauncey Billups, Detroit Pistons
Pump, fake, hit the J. Chauncey Billups showed off his skills last week when he nailed the game winning shot and handed the Boston Celtics their first home loss of the season. The veteran point guard doesn't just play good basketball, he plays smart basketball. His last second spoiler proved that is game is just as much mental as it is physical.

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Couldn't have been more wrong. Talk about Pump fake, hit your opponent in the air then go to the ft line and hit the game winning fts.

Check out the way he got the win over the Hawks earlier this season in Atlanta.. straight biatch move to the max. What he did to the celtics ain'tgot nothin on the way he sealed the deal against the Hawks.

mben32 · Dec 30, 2007

this marsIV dude been contridicting himself throughout this whole thread..dude is just saying anything and backing it up with simple *@+%..like..hes better atwinning titles but didnt give any credit for Dwade for winning a title when we were comparing who was better between wade and arenas..the only thing arenas cando better than wade is shoot from outside..thats it...arenas can't go to the hole and finish strong on a consistent basis like wade does..

*waits for someone to come and makes a reference to wade always getting to the free throw line(D-Whistle)*

kingkb34 · Dec 30, 2007

Couldn't have been more wrong. Talk about Pump fake, hit your opponent in the air then go to the ft line and hit the game winning fts.
Still salty about a regular season game? Blame Tony Allen for falling for it...that was a veteran move byBillups.

roscoe p wallace · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by 3PLEDOUBLE

@ Wade not being on that list. He should be number 1 easily.

Im just going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your joking.... god I hope your joking.

mben32 · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

arenas can't go to the hole and finish strong on a consistent basis like wade does..

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first of all, wade finishing strong?

if finishing strong means being on the floor and going to the line to shoot 2

thats exactly why i said this..

*waits for someone to come and makes a reference to wade always getting to the free throw line(D-Whistle)*
i didnt say arenas doesn't go to the hole..im just saying arenas is more of a shooter..thats the only part of his game that is superior towade.
anything else..wade does better than arenas..thus making wade the better player...

marsiv · Dec 30, 2007

i didnt say arenas doesn't go to the hole..im just saying arenas is more of a shooter..thats the only part of his game that is superior to wade.
anything else..wade does better than arenas..thus making wade the better player...

So what did that just prove? with out the refs, wade would avg. 15 points a game on 35% FG and 12% 3PT. The guy is a shooting guard and cant shoot.

th0mas cr0wn · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by 3PLEDOUBLE

@ Wade not being on that list. He should be number 1 easily.

mben32 · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by MarsIV

i didnt say arenas doesn't go to the hole..im just saying arenas is more of a shooter..thats the only part of his game that is superior to wade.
anything else..wade does better than arenas..thus making wade the better player...

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So what did that just prove? with out the refs, wade would avg. 15 points a game on 35% FG and 12% 3PT. The guy is a shooting guard and cant shoot.

i'll admit..he's not the best shooter...i already said...arenas is a better shooter than him..but thats where it stops..yall dudes gotta findsomething else to pin agaisnt wade other than referees...yall act like dude is a scrub..yall kill me with that....so ima boil it down to this..in a one on onegame who wins Arenas or Wade?? wade is a way more gifted athlete than arenas..and has a pretty good mid-range game...wade doesn't have to shoot threes..hegets his threes the old fashioned way..go to the whole strong..finishes..and 1...

marsiv · Dec 30, 2007

so ima boil it down to this..in a one on one game who wins Arenas or Wade??

Like i said, the only way whistle could win is if they played with refs.

mben32 · Dec 30, 2007

Originally Posted by MarsIV

so ima boil it down to this..in a one on one game who wins Arenas or Wade??

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Like i said, the only way whistle could win is if they played with refs.

thats all you have?? yall dudes is mad lame with that whistletalk...

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