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We all know Kanyes beats > lyrics.
Are these even Kanye's beats? He's a co-producer on a fair amount of them.
and all he does is include a whistle and horn and then he is titled a co-producer
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idk i used to be a kanye fan but every since graduation i havent really ben feeling his whole style or whatever. im probably the only hiphop person who hasnt heard mbdtf
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Being a beatmaker =/= producer

A beatmaker comes up with the beat, a producer comes up with an overall concept of the song . . .
 
Ok, listened to the album like 20 times an I can say I love it now. I still hate the first part of I'm In It but I love when the beat switches. In still iffy on On Site. I still don't get the beat but I listen to it everytime I spin the album.

Still Ye's worst release. Actually, i might have enjoyed this more than i did WTT when it first dropped. Ye never been lyrical but its way too obvious on this cd. Will cop tomorrow.

Anybody seen how the viynl is gonna look?
 
I'm not really seeing where the super duper hate for this is coming from. This album sounds pretty hardbody hip hop to me. Second fav Ye album for me.

His lyrics are his lyrics -- when have they been amazing?? If you check for Kanye cause of his lyrics you are listening to Kanye wrong.
 
We all know Kanyes beats > lyrics.


Are these even Kanye's beats? He's a co-producer on a fair amount of them.
and all he does is include a whistle and horn and then he is titled a co-producer :rolleyes

idk i used to be a kanye fan but every since graduation i havent really ben feeling his whole style or whatever. im probably the only hiphop person who hasnt heard mbdtf

*puts flame suit on


Being a beatmaker =/= producer​

A beatmaker comes up with the beat, a producer comes up with an overall concept of the song . . .​

Where do you see "beatmaker" in the album credits?

A producer CAN come up with an overall concept of the song.

So can a writer (sometimes hooks are written first and songs are built around them), so can an executive or a manager.

Stop it.
 
NOT GIVING.

A LOT OF U ARE COMPLAINERS.

IVE BEEN A FAN OF KANYE SINCE DAY ONE AND HE HAS NEVER DISSAPOINTED ME.

OMLY ALBUM THAT KIND OF DISAPOINTED ME WAS MBDTF

REASON BEING IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE GOOD FRIDAY TRACKS WERE ON THE DAMN ALBUM AND HE SAID THEY WERENT.

SO WHATEVER.

AND A LOT OF U WHINE AND ***** TOOOOO MUCH.
 
I think this dude said the same **** that everyone without a ligament argument says - your ears aren't equipped, you are intellectually challenge. SMH! 

This isn't the case with everyone some people fully understand what he was trying to accomplish with this album and just simply don't like it. that's cool

But there IS a huge amount of people who just don't understand rap unless it's thrown right in front of your face. Like your not gonna tell me a Migos track or a riff Raff track is hot and then in the same sentence say that this album is trash and expect me to take you serious. Some people legitimately don't want to take part in any thinking process what so ever when listening to music.

That is the same crowd that is still saying WTT was nothing but "Money Talk" some people just can't see dope ****. unless its told in direct form.
 
Trailer for the new Scorsese / Dicaprio flick dropped today
The music chosen? Black Skinhead




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We all know Kanyes beats > lyrics.

Are these even Kanye's beats? He's a co-producer on a fair amount of them.
and all he does is include a whistle and horn and then he is titled a co-producer
eyes.gif


idk i used to be a kanye fan but every since graduation i havent really ben feeling his whole style or whatever. im probably the only hiphop person who hasnt heard mbdtf

*puts flame suit on
Being a beatmaker =/= producer​
A beatmaker comes up with the beat, a producer comes up with an overall concept of the song . . .​
Where do you see "beatmaker" in the album credits?

A producer CAN come up with an overall concept of the song.

So can a writer (sometimes hooks are written first and songs are built around them), so can an executive or a manager.

Stop it.
Anybody can be credited as a producer. You don't have to make beats to be credited as a producer and just because you make beats doesn't automatically make you a producer.

Just because you make a beat doesn't mean you determine the overall direction of the final song, especially with Ye.

TNGHT made this beat.



That doesn't necessarily mean they entirely produced this song. They either got a sample credit or (and this is more likely since Hudson Mohawke is signed to GOOD) a co-production credit.



Coming up with a melody, adding a snare, adding some chords, adding some keys, etc. etc. basically anything adding to the final composition of the track gets you a production credit. Which is how 12-13 people can get a production credit. It isn't 12-13 people sitting around a DAW or whatever just making a beat on the spot like a live band all at once
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. Everybody adds something to it over a period of time. Which is very plausible considering all the layers on the beats on this album, and even Kanye beats in general, the vocal hits and effects, the piano, the bassline, etc.

You are right in that "beatmaker" isn't really a credit on an album, hence why they'd just get a co-production credit.
 
I'm not really seeing where the super duper hate for this is coming from. This album sounds pretty hardbody hip hop to me. Second fav Ye album for me.

His lyrics are his lyrics -- when have they been amazing?? If you check for Kanye cause of his lyrics you are listening to Kanye wrong.
listening wrong?
So how is someone supposed to listen to this album then, if they are not listening to what he is saying? His production?
Hey only got full production credit one for 1 song. Co prod on 2 others, and he added some bells to 1 song. Thats it.

Where are people goin with this "listening to it wrong" rationale?
 
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Anybody can be credited as a producer. You don't have to make beats to be credited as a producer and just because you make beats doesn't automatically make you a producer.​

Just because you make a beat doesn't mean you determine the overall direction of the final song, especially with Ye.​

TNGHT made this beat.​



That doesn't necessarily mean they entirely produced this song. They either got a sample credit or (and this is more likely since Hudson Mohawke is signed to GOOD) a co-production credit.​




Coming up with a melody, adding a snare, adding some chords, adding some keys, etc. etc. basically anything adding to the final composition of the track gets you a production credit. Which is how 12-13 people can get a production credit. It isn't 12-13 people sitting around a DAW or whatever just making a beat on the spot like a live band all at once :lol: . Everybody adds something to it over a period of time. Which is very plausible considering all the layers on the beats on this album, and even Kanye beats in general, the vocal hits and effects, the piano, the bassline, etc.​

You are right in that "beatmaker" isn't really a credit on an album, hence why they'd just get a co-production credit.​

You're all over the place. Of course making the beat makes you a producer. Unless it's the engineer and his role you're thinking of.

And no, you don't have to make beats to be credited as a producer, but a producer doesn't necessarily come up with the overall concept either of a song as you said they did. That is all. Beatmaker=producer. Producer =/= beatmaker. You said the opposite.

And I never said that you come up with the overall direction of a song if you make the beat.

Sample credit is for a sample used. If you get a "sample credit" as you put it, you're listed as a writer like everyone else who either wrote or produced the song. Sample credit is for the label that allows the use of the master recording. Song X used courtesy of Columbia Records etc. The artists are listed as writers.

"adding a snare, adding some chords, adding some keys" is part of beatmaking, no? So you'd maybe get a co-production credit and likely a writer share. But when have you ever seen 12-12 people get a production credit on a song? Production credit and writer share are not the same. I'd suggest you look up what both mean to get a better understanding.

But none of that matters. Because what you said a producer does was incorrect. A producer CAN do that. But so can anyone else as I stated.

Please stop talking about things you don't really understand.
 
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Anybody can be credited as a producer. You don't have to make beats to be credited as a producer and just because you make beats doesn't automatically make you a producer.​
Just because you make a beat doesn't mean you determine the overall direction of the final song, especially with Ye.​
TNGHT made this beat.​
That doesn't necessarily mean they entirely produced this song. They either got a sample credit or (and this is more likely since Hudson Mohawke is signed to GOOD) a co-production credit.​
Coming up with a melody, adding a snare, adding some chords, adding some keys, etc. etc. basically anything adding to the final composition of the track gets you a production credit. Which is how 12-13 people can get a production credit. It isn't 12-13 people sitting around a DAW or whatever just making a beat on the spot like a live band all at once
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. Everybody adds something to it over a period of time. Which is very plausible considering all the layers on the beats on this album, and even Kanye beats in general, the vocal hits and effects, the piano, the bassline, etc.​
You are right in that "beatmaker" isn't really a credit on an album, hence why they'd just get a co-production credit.​
You're all over the place. Of course making the beat makes you a producer. Unless it's the engineer and his role you're thinking of.

And no, you don't have to make beats to be credited as a producer, but a producer doesn't necessarily come up with the overall concept either of a song as you said they did. That is all. Beatmaker=producer. Producer =/= beatmaker. You said the opposite.

And I never said that you come up with the overall direction of a song if you make the beat.

Sample credit is for a sample used. If you get a "sample credit" as you put it, you're listed as a writer like everyone else who either wrote or produced the song. Sample credit is for the label that allows the use of the master recording. Song X used courtesy of Columbia Records etc. The artists are listed as writers.

"adding a snare, adding some chords, adding some keys" is part of beatmaking, no? So you'd maybe get a co-production credit and likely a writer share. But when have you ever seen 12-12 people get a production credit on a song? Production credit and writer share are not the same. I'd suggest you look up what both mean to get a better understanding.

But none of that matters. Because what you said a producer does was incorrect. A producer CAN do that. But so can anyone else as I stated.

Please stop talking about things you don't really understand.
http://www.fakeshoredrive.com/2013/06/kanye-west-yeezus-full-production-credits.html/

http://hiphop-n-more.com/2013/06/kanye-west-yeezus-track-list/

All I was saying is that it's highly unlikely that Ye did not contribute ANYTHING to the production on this album. Y'all tried to just say that he just added a "whistle and horn" to a few of the beats and that was it. He hasn't made a beat from top to bottom in years but that doesn't mean he didn't help produce the album.
 
Yoo I am a god is heat, How can anyone. Dislike that song is beyond me, Just edit out screams and it's perfect.
 
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listening wrong?
So how is someone supposed to listen to this album then, if they are not listening to what he is saying? His production?
Hey only got full production credit one for 1 song. Co prod on 2 others, and he added some bells to 1 song. Thats it.

Where are people goin with this "listening to it wrong" rationale?
I just mean that Kanye West is a musician you know? He's not really a rapper, never really been a RAPPER ALL CAPS since I've been listening to him.

Going towards the producer discussion going on, dude is a producer in every sense of the word - he PRODUCES MUSIC. Like Daft Punk oversaw all these people creating Daft Punk's music thus creating a Daft Punk album, Kanye oversees all these contributors in the creation of a Kanye West album. He is the creative force, a song is not a finished product until it gets Kanye's stamp of approval.

I mean Mozart didn't play every instrument did he?
 
listening wrong?
So how is someone supposed to listen to this album then, if they are not listening to what he is saying? His production?
Hey only got full production credit one for 1 song. Co prod on 2 others, and he added some bells to 1 song. Thats it.

Where are people goin with this "listening to it wrong" rationale?
I just mean that Kanye West is a musician you know? He's not really a rapper, never really been a RAPPER ALL CAPS since I've been listening to him.

Going towards the producer discussion going on, dude is a producer in every sense of the word - he PRODUCES MUSIC. Like Daft Punk oversaw all these people creating Daft Punk's music thus creating a Daft Punk album, Kanye oversees all these contributors in the creation of a Kanye West album. He is the creative force, a song is not a finished product until it gets Kanye's stamp of approval.

I mean Mozart didn't play every instrument did he?
Exactly. Difference between looping a sample + drum break and being a producer.
 


All I was saying is that it's highly unlikely that Ye did not contribute ANYTHING to the production on this album. Y'all tried to just say that he just added a "whistle and horn" to a few of the beats and that was it. He hasn't made a beat from top to bottom in years but that doesn't mean he didn't help produce the album.​

I don't know what to make of that honestly. Some songs have clearly listed producers. Some have a bunch of names after them which look like writer credits.

They look like they sampled a Jill Scott song on I"m In It so she and her producers are listed on there. Those are all writers.

Cyhi and Lupe are writers on Black Skinhead, which is listed as produced by Daft Punk.

Terrence Thornton (Pusha T) is listed as a writer on Guilt Trip which is produced by S1

But on Send It Up, Daft Punk (Thomas and Guy) are listed as writers but no one is listed as a producer.

So I don't know what to make of the songs where no one is listed as a producer. But I don't think all of those names are producers. Pretty sure they're writers.

For the record, I never said he didn't do anything on these tracks. I just said they weren't Kanye's beats in the way they were when he was carrying damn near all the production. He's been outsourcing more and more lately.
 
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I'm not really seeing where the super duper hate for this is coming from. This album sounds pretty hardbody hip hop to me. Second fav Ye album for me.

His lyrics are his lyrics -- when have they been amazing?? If you check for Kanye cause of his lyrics you are listening to Kanye wrong.
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Blood on the leaves got tht beat!!
Album is pretty abstract , something very different from kanye , most production done by daft punk well done kanye
 
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This is definitely something new. I like it even though it wasn't what I was expecting. It's like the raunchy version of 808s.
 
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