algorithms are da reason his music is poppin up
More then his persona? da kanye yeezus
experiment was a dud, da quicker he can
Lick his wounds and return To bound 2 form
Da quicker he can rebound from this foolishness..
Except for maybe "Electric Circus" none of those are bad albums... D3030 and LB/SB were awesome.
And even "Electric Circus" if you listen to it now, isn't even really electronic music. There's like 1-2 techno type beats on the whole thing.
You prefer Swaghilli or Swagu?
I referred to Electric Circus as "electronic" because the reason it caught the backlash it did at the time was because hip hop fans were literally like "this ***** lost his mind. no one is trying to hear techno rap." but that's because he was doing something not many people were doing at the time o the concept was new to rap fans. the same way I think in a few years 90% of the people on this board (the same people who were ******** on 808s, mind you -- you can dig in the crates and go look at how that thread went) will realize Yeezus isn't the failure they think it is.
The bars on a lot of the songs are weak. We know that. We accept that. He's a rapper who didn't rap that well. Get beyond that, everything else about the album from production to music flow to conciseness is at the apex of the genre. He's not 1/2 the rapper that Jay Z or even J. Cole are. We know that. But not a single one of you are going to have a reason to revisit J. Cole's album in 6 months. Not one.
You want to compare this to MCHG, fine. Look at the way the two of them used their features. Kanye on a lazy album consistently gets the utmost out of his collaborators. Daft Punk did Daft Punk better on Yeezus than they did anywhere on RAM. King L spit the best verse of his life. Kanye ethered Future's whole career by showing how easy it would be to turn Chief Keef into him. Jay wasted a Nas feature. There was no thought given to how Nas would fit best on that album. He just threw him on a Pharrell beat and called it a day.
Yeezus is lazy? Is there ONE thing that happened on MCHG that wasn't expected? Having Beach is Better end after 50 econds? Everything Jay did is the same **** he's been doing since Volume 3. And people love it because it's the Jay they know and are comfortable with it, but they hate it for the same reason. It's going to get boring quick. It's why the best Jay we've heard in recent years is with Ye on songs with him PUSHING him to step out of his box and do more.
The fact that Kanye's record is so polarizing shows you that there are redeeming qualities in the music. If there weren't this thread wouldnt be as active as it is. Yeezus isn't anything super innovative because less popular rappers have been going in over Nine Inch Nails type production for a while true. But Kanye is the BIGGEST rapper to do it. That's the only reason it's getting press. And truth be told, he does it better than all those before him. Whether it's your cup of tea is one thing, but to ay it's poorly done is just opinion. Some think it's great. And as wack as the bars are you can at least hear passion in them.
People just have trouble accepting that there are others who enjoy what Kanye did and who this album speaks to on another non-rappity-rap mathematical 5% talk level. It's not ALL about the lyrics. Hip-hop isn't allll about lyrics. If it was then it'd just be rap.
And I'm not trying to pay attention to any of the people co-signing ninjahood complain about lyrics or nonsensical yelping. He listens to french montana ("hannnnnn"). his opinion's no good here.
I think Hip-Hop is A LOT about the lyrics no question, but I can't fault a reach by Kanye w/ Yeezus simply because of the lyrics, because the message he's trying to get across with this album comes more from the production then from the lyrics.
The claustrophobic feeling you get from this album is the whole entire point, and the fact that the thing was banged out in like 2 weeks only adds to the uniqueness of the whole project. That the album is so compelling to listen to (interesting to listen to, IMO) from a musical standpoint compared with everything else available is what makes it truly special in my book.