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[shoeking2101]

Just listened to MBDTF in its entirety and it is still amazing as I once remember. Everything about it is brilliant. It truly baffles me when people call the album trash or label it as Kanye's worst album like what is wrong with you srs

If you don't like MBDTF I don't like you.

I think it's completely overrated by the masses. Don't see what's so good about it tbh

 

[superblytrife]

Just listened to MBDTF in its entirety and it is still amazing as I once remember. Everything about it is brilliant. It truly baffles me when people call the album trash or label it as Kanye's worst album like what is wrong with you srs

If you don't like MBDTF I don't like you.

I think it's completely overrated by the masses. Don't see what's so good about it tbh

+1

Definitely a handful of good tracks, but it still doesn't have a lot of replay value for me.  Same with WTT.  Same with Yeezus.  

I'm sensing a trend here....

 

[Peep Game]

Nicki Minaj had the hardest verse on that entire album *goes back to playing "Late"*

 

[illphillip]

328k first week sales 

J Cole with 297k.

lulz at da cole fans thinking he woulda outsold ye

Kanye selling 30k more is something to be proud of?

No promo?

Saturday Night Live is no promo now?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

^^^Agree 100%. I listened to it the other day. Gorgeous is still so . MBDTF is a masterpiece.

Kanye killed every verse on Gorgeous then Rae coming through at the end made that song perfection.


That album is right there with Late Registration to me.

 

[00david00]

Just listened to MBDTF in its entirety and it is still amazing as I once remember. Everything about it is brilliant. It truly baffles me when people call the album trash or label it as Kanye's worst album like what is wrong with you srs

If you don't like MBDTF I don't like you.

still no skips on that album for me

DIAND x 10000

 

[snowboardingpanda]

Kanye selling 30k more is something to be proud of?

No promo?

Saturday Night Live is no promo now?

They had folks who don't even watch SNL go out of their way just to watch the Kanye performances. Hardly a promo if you ask me. The only real promo were the projections and even then fans had to research in order to attend. It's not like the casual rap fan would have really known had they not looked for info regarding Yeezus.

 

[nako xl]

328k first week sales 

J Cole with 297k.

lulz at da cole fans thinking he woulda outsold ye

Kanye selling 30k more is something to be proud of?

No promo?

Saturday Night Live is no promo now?

ehhh but illphil to be fair, SNL caters to a certain demographic, and not really the chief hip hop buying demo.

urban and middle class youth, and even pop fans, the type of people who listen to the radio and will be moved to go buy the album off a hot single were never reached out to.

NOW if you'd pointed out how funny it was that Kanye said his marketing strategy is no strategy when he had his face projected (without permission in a lot of cases) on buildings in 50 major cities, how he headlined the biggest music festival in NYC in the summer, and how he had a major NY times feature, all of which had everyone talking then that's a totally different discussion

But I think he's saying those things were only stories because of who HE is.  However that isn't traditional album promotion.  There was no tour, only two live shows (snl and govs ball) and no video or radio single.  Most people bought the album after hearing incomplete versions of two songs.

 

[jaysrcrak]

I think J Cole will outsell Kanye next week. Worst Kanye album by the sales numbers.

 

[rndom grenadez]

My friend, Richie Pope and I had a good discussion about this album and he gave a perfect summarization of the album and I totally agree.

"This album is his most musically daring since 808s. There are other groups like NIN, Saul Williams and Death Grips that push the envelope farther in certain aspects, but as a mainstream rapper, what Kanye's done with Yeezus is the equivalent. We don't have many mainstream provocateurs like we did in the early 90s and he's brought a bit more of that back with Yeezus.

Yeezus covers themes of arrogance, decadence, guilt, lust, guilt, love, race, black power (and all that entails). It's contradictory, dumb and brilliant at the same time.
This album is one that puts minimalism over lush arrangements and shows how powerful-sounding that can still be. It's a nice concoction of aggressive genres of music: percussion-heavy rap, industrial rock, acid house, drill, and dancehall. The co-producers on this album, including Rick Rubin, Daft Punk, Young Chop and Hudson Mohawke among others all help with the cohesive sounds of this album.

 

Stopped reading right there...this album is anything BUT cohesive.

 

[rndom grenadez]

ehhh but illphil to be fair, SNL caters to a certain demographic, and not really the chief hip hop buying demo.

urban and middle class youth, and even pop fans, the type of people who listen to the radio and will be moved to go buy the album off a hot single were never reached out to.

NOW if you'd pointed out how funny it was that Kanye said his marketing strategy is no strategy when he had his face projected (without permission in a lot of cases) on buildings in 50 major cities, how he headlined the biggest music festival in NYC in the summer, and how he had a major NY times feature, all of which had everyone talking then that's a totally different discussion

But I think he's saying those things were only stories because of who HE is.  However that isn't traditional album promotion.  There was no tour, only two live shows (snl and govs ball) and no video or radio single.  Most people bought the album after hearing incomplete versions of two songs.

You say SNL caters to a certain demographic, and then claim that the demographic ISNT middle class youth and pop fans? Who do you think buys most of Kanye's albums? Why do you think he sells so well.

And traditional marketing is overrated. The amount of people who bought his album because he's "Kim's husband" is probably equal to if not greater than the amount that would have bought it if it had a good single out. Middle class America has an infatuation with celebrities and the lifestyles they live. This album had MORE marketing than Cole's. It just wasn't the marketing we're used to. 

 

[ihust1e]

^ Maybe I read that wrong....but you really think a decent amount of yeezus sales were due to him being with Kim?

 

[rndom grenadez]

^ Maybe I read that wrong....but you really think a decent amount of yeezus sales were due to him being with Kim?

You know how much publicity he's getting from that and the pregnancy. I'm sure plenty. The tabloid fodder added a decent amount of sales. He pulled in the 30 - 50 female crowd off of that.

 

[kickstart]

You know how much publicity he's getting from that and the pregnancy. I'm sure plenty. The tabloid fodder added a decent amount of sales. He pulled in the 30 - 50 female crowd off of that.

That's a bit of a reach.

Ye got love in the headlines for having a baby with a media *****. That doesn't translate into a decent amount of sales.

The majority of Kim's fan base is female followed by gay males. They could give 2 ***** about Ye. They're more likely to go buy Kim's maternity clothes and they aren't even pregnant than Kanye's album.

 

[ihust1e]

^ Maybe I read that wrong....but you really think a decent amount of yeezus sales were due to him being with Kim?

You know how much publicity he's getting from that and the pregnancy. I'm sure plenty. The tabloid fodder added a decent amount of sales. He pulled in the 30 - 50 female crowd off of that.

Truthfully, I cant speak for the rest of the world...or who ever follows Kim's show/life.

But I dont see how that's connected to album sales. Publicity....certainly. But sales?

My sister watches her show religiously and didnt care when his album dropped.

But then again,...shes just one person

 

[nako xl]

^ Maybe I read that wrong....but you really think a decent amount of yeezus sales were due to him being with Kim?

You know how much publicity he's getting from that and the pregnancy. I'm sure plenty. The tabloid fodder added a decent amount of sales. He pulled in the 30 - 50 female crowd off of that.

Truthfully, I cant speak for the rest of the world...or who ever follows Kim's show/life.

But I dont see how that's connected to album sales. Publicity....certainly. But sales?

My sister watches her show religiously and didnt care when his album dropped.

But then again,...shes just one person

most people didn't even know the album was dropping until it dropped.

kim's pregnancy may help draw attention to the album going forward, especially if they DO drop a single (btw Hot97 and NYC club DJs are starting to try to push Send It Up as a radio song) but Kim had little to nothing to do with his first week sales.  She was avoiding the media for the few weeks leading up to the child's birth.  She wasn't front and center leading the marketing charge.  Any time you heard about kanye and kim it was "what's the kid going to be named?"

when I say the snl demographic isn't kanye's, i mean that most snl watchers are in the midwest, white, and 30+.  that's not Kanye's demographic.

Him performing two incomplete songs on the show didn't help his sales that much.  he wasn't on bet, mtv, cw, etc pushing his record.  He literally played the songs once on the sides of buildings, once on snl to let you know he had something in the works, then once at governors ball to let you know they were done.  then he talked about them in the arts section of the newspaper and that was it.

the way the release went with no extra special security to stop a leak, kanye practically gave us the album for free.  we know based on WTT he could have forced people to pre-order it, but he didn't.

He did, in his eyes (though the ny times feature and building projections separates him from the pack obviously) what he imagines a brand new unconnected artist would do.  let the music speak for itself and if blogs/media outlets want to cover it then they will and if people want to buy it then thats cool too.

the funny thing about that is that it's precisely want a new or unconnected artist CAN'T do.  I have to put the music out there like that and let blogs covr it and hope for the best just because I have no other choice.  But an artist like J. Cole can't go out and just put out a record with no lead single and no press coverage or video.  he NEEDS the sales and the media marketing machine to be successful.

Kanye doesn't so there really is no comparison.  Think about this, he can drop an album almost out of thin air with no single (the majority of my friends hadn't heard Black Skin head or New Slaves before listening to the album, and that's true of most people -- they dont stay up on NT and blogs like us) give it away for free essentially and still sell damn near gold the first week.

How many rap artists can do that today?  Kanye and...?  Jay-Z?  Maybe, Drake? I don't know he eats way too well off the catchy singles.

What Kanye accomplished is a feat.  You guys are speculating that he's pissed because of slumping sales?  No.  If anything, this just justified his ego.  This album proves he can do whatever he wants and still come out with nothing but profit.

 

[illphillip]

most people didn't even know the album was dropping until it dropped.

when I say the snl demographic isn't kanye's, i mean that most snl watchers are in the midwest, white, and 30+.  that's not Kanye's demographic.

Him performing two incomplete songs on the show didn't help his sales that much.  he wasn't on bet, mtv, cw, etc pushing his record.  He literally played the songs once on the sides of buildings, once on snl to let you know he had something in the works, then once at governors ball to let you know they were done.  then he talked about them in the arts section of the newspaper and that was it.

Your first statement is false. Stop it.

Do you have any data that supports your 2nd statement? Dead serious. I'd like to see who their demo is.

Either way, Kanye is more of a pop artist now. So white 30 year olds most certainly do buy his music. Or you thought the "hood" was buying his albums?

SNL is a massive promo + marketing vehicle. NY Times was a big buzz piece.

Kanye is constantly in the news. Flipping on paparazzi. Ranting and raving anytime a mic is in front of him. Let's not act like he's some low key recluse who's album was flying under the media radar.

The way some of you warp and weave your perception of this album is ridiculous. Everyone want to write an essay explaining the direction, the music, the sales, the promotion.

Sometimes an album just isn't great. And performs as such. Great albums don't have that problem.

They sell without promotion (remember Macklemore? He didn't have a single on the radio until AFTER his album debuted at #1. Mac Miller debuted at #1 with no radio. COUNTLESS examples).

It's not like Kanye only did 50k but everything about this album, from the music to the sales is underwhelming.

Sorry to you funny style types that get upset about negative things being said about the album. I know you just want this to be a sandbox of Kanye worship. But if it's an actual discussion about the project, suck it up and deal with some contrary opinions.

 

[delete1234]

This is one of the worst albums I've ever heard.

 

[quietmoney]

I love this album. Yeezus invokes a lot of emotions for me.

I skip On Sight, I Am a God, and Send It Up. I don't like these songs at all.

I think all of the other songs are good but I don't listen to Black Skinhead, New Slaves and Bound 2 very much.

I've been playing tracks 5-8 consecutively when listening to this album. I think they flow really well together. I slept on Hold My Liquor and I'm In It at first but I like them a lot now. Blood On the Leaves and Guilt Trip are still my favorites

I think it's interesting that the beat for Guilt Trip (my favorite song from the album) was produced in London while Jay-Z and Kanye were making WTT. Kanye decided it didn't fit the feel of the album though. Although I would've liked to hear a verse from Jay-Z on that song (it's a little too short right now), I think it is better on the Yeezus album.

 

[quietmoney]

[h1]Kanye West's "Yeezus" "Might" Have Sequel, Says Rick Rubin[/h1]
by Andres Vasquez

posted June 27, 2013 at 10:00AM EDT | 20 comments

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Rick Rubin says Kanye West "might" have a surprise in store for "Yeezus" fans. He also shares how he became executive producer on the project.

In a revealing interview about his work on Yeezus, Rick Rubin shared that there "might" be a sequel to  Kanye West's album. 

"Initially, [Kanye] thought there were going to be 16 songs on the album," Rubin revealed to The Daily Beast. "But that first day, before he even asked me to work on it, I said, 'Maybe you should make it more concise. Maybe this is two albums. Maybe this is just the first half.' That was one of the first breakthroughs. Kanye was like, 'That’s what I came here today to hear! It could be 10 songs!'" 

When asked if there is a possibility of a sequel to Yeezus, Rubin said, "Might be." 

In the interview, Rubin also discussed his involvement with Yeezus. 

"Kanye called me. I’d just finished working at the studio for about two months on another album, and I was getting ready to go away on vacation for a couple weeks. Then he called up and said, 'Can I just come play my album?' And I said, 'Sure.' I always like to hear what he’s working on. So he came over to my house in Malibu. We listened. I thought I was going to hear a finished album, but actually we listened to probably three and a half hours of works in progress...So I said, 'When are you thinking of finishing up?' And he said, 'It’s coming out in five weeks.' Like completely confident and fine," Rubin shared.

"I said, 'I have a record coming out in November that’s a lot further along than this.' He said, 'Really? What are you doing for the next five days?' I said I was going to go away," he added. "Then he said, 'Please help me. Would you be open to fixing it and shaping it and finishing it off?'" 

Rubin also revealed that working on the album made him feel "sick" at times.

"To me it seemed impossible what he was asking. I remember I wasn’t feeling that well that day, and I was thinking, Is the music making me sick? I don’t feel good about this. We ended up working probably 15 days, 16 days, long hours, no days off, 15 hours a day. I was panicked the whole time." 

Earlier this month, Rubin spoke with The Wall Street Journal about Kanye. In that interview, he shared his respect for West.

“He is a true artist who happens to make music under the wide umbrella of hip hop,” he said. “He is in no way beholden to Hip Hop’s typical messaging musical clichés. Hip Hop is a grander, more personal form because of his contributions, and hopefully his work will inspire others to push the boundaries of what’s possible in Hip Hop…He is pure in his art and in a form where so many choices artists make are often the result of business consideration. Kanye chooses to let his art lead.”

According to reports, Yeezus sold 328,000 first-week units. West was initially projected to sell more than this. According to a Billboard report, Yeezus was projected to sell 360,000-380,000 first-week units. 

Rubin, who is recognized as an iconic producer for his work with Run DMC, Beastie Boys, LL Cool J and others, has also been featured in Jay-Z's ads for Magna Carta Holy Grail. Details of the producer's full involvement with the album are not yet known but it wouldn't be the first time Rubin and Jay collaborated. The two paired up for 2003's "99 Problems" on J****'s The Black Album. 

RELATED: Kanye West - "Yeezus" [Review]

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...t-s-yeezus-might-have-sequel-says-rick-rubin/

 

[illphillip]

You love the album, but out of 10 tracks, you don't listen to 3 at all, and don't listen to another 3 "very much"?

But play 5-8 consecutively?

That's puzzling......

 

[rndom grenadez]

Truthfully, I cant speak for the rest of the world...or who ever follows Kim's show/life.

But I dont see how that's connected to album sales. Publicity....certainly. But sales?

My sister watches her show religiously and didnt care when his album dropped.

But then again,...shes just one person

I think publicity in general generates sales. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[quietmoney]

You love the album, but out of 10 tracks, you don't listen to 3 at all, and don't listen to another 3 "very much"?

But play 5-8 consecutively?

That's puzzling......

I've listened to it straight through without skipping anything a few times now and I really enjoy it. But, that was in my car on a long drive when I had time. I don't usually have time to just sit down and listen to an album straight through like that.

If I'm listening to this album casually, and not as a whole, I'm not going to listen to the 3 songs I don't like.

I don't listen "very much" to the other 3 I mentioned because 5-8 are my favorite.

Why is it puzzling I don't listen to every song equally or don't listen to some at all any more? I still love the album.

 

[marquiss11]

 

[marquiss11]