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[shotsrangout]

Anyone ever wonder what happened to this track? This had me so excited years ago when Good *** Job was announced

 

[00david00]

i always wondered why crack music only had game on the hook

 

[k town trash]

i always wondered why crack music only had game on the hook

there was one with his verse on it.

 

[gllahone84]

Kanye produced what?!!!!!!

 

[waitwut]

whats wrong with kanye not 100% making the beats? do you guys expect every rapper to make his own beats? theres difference between a beatmeaker and a producer too

every time someone ask a good music memeber about a song they always say it sounds WAY different once kanye touches it

he said many times and many other ppl said when he makes beats and write rhymes he ask for every ones opinion and input thats why so much ppl are getting credit

 

[thadoctadvocate]

I still don't' see how this discredits the music? So he had a team assist him and gave credit to every single person. It's his name and his product in the end....Do you like or dislike the product. It is music....we aren't talking like oh the ingredients in the food are terrible so when i eat it its bad for me...but it tastes good. This isn't effecting your health...its just music. If you read the credits and let it sway your opinion on the music as a final product thats just stupid to me.


There is an argument to make for everything. Kanye has a huge team so he isn't really that talented...but it takes a big man to surround himself with people that are better then you at certain things and acknowledge that and let them help you. A lot of people can't do that and that can stunt growth. Its all circular to me and in the end there is one thing...the music...so take it or leave it...but trying to discredit the artist by saying he had too many people help him is just pointless.

I didn't even read the credits to arrive at my own conclusion that the album was one of, it not the worse I've ever heard. 

People mention Kanye and growth in the same breath, but have we come to the point where dudes are just ignoring lyrical content?

Remember if a dude puts out an album that is within the genre of hip hop, more so than any other genre the lyrics will be placed under a microscope. Kanye seems to get a pass for being a trash rapper. 

All because he enlists 10 dudes to give a track some type of orchestra feel, stadium music feel, or now is it called "goon house"?

"Goon house" is catching on! 

I'm bout to get tshirts made.

ill buy a couple

 

[ihust1e]

I still don't' see how this discredits the music? So he had a team assist him and gave credit to every single person. It's his name and his product in the end....Do you like or dislike the product. It is music....we aren't talking like oh the ingredients in the food are terrible so when i eat it its bad for me...but it tastes good. This isn't effecting your health...its just music. If you read the credits and let it sway your opinion on the music as a final product thats just stupid to me.


There is an argument to make for everything. Kanye has a huge team so he isn't really that talented...but it takes a big man to surround himself with people that are better then you at certain things and acknowledge that and let them help you. A lot of people can't do that and that can stunt growth. Its all circular to me and in the end there is one thing...the music...so take it or leave it...but trying to discredit the artist by saying he had too many people help him is just pointless.

I didn't even read the credits to arrive at my own conclusion that the album was one of, it not the worse I've ever heard. 

People mention Kanye and growth in the same breath, but have we come to the point where dudes are just ignoring lyrical content?

Remember if a dude puts out an album that is within the genre of hip hop, more so than any other genre the lyrics will be placed under a microscope. Kanye seems to get a pass for being a trash rapper. 

All because he enlists 10 dudes to give a track some type of orchestra feel, stadium music feel, or now is it called "goon house"?

"Goon house" is catching on! 

I'm bout to get tshirts made.

ill buy a couple

 

[girthbrooks]

.....WE COULDA BEEN SOMEBODY!

.....INSTEAD YOU HAD TO TELL SOMEBODY!

....LET'S TAKE IT BACK TO THE FIRST PART-AYYYY

....WHEN YOU TRIED YOUR FIRST MOLL-LAYYYY!

i don't know why you guys waste time trying to force your opinion on others.

if they like it, they like it

if someone doesn't, they doesn't

let's just each have our own opinion, whether positive or negative. no need for elitism.

.....it's only NikeTalk

joint is dope and quite different. i appreciate son pushing the boundaries. only HE could have made this album as a rapper.

if you don't feel that? respect.

 

[thorrocksjs]

Y'all called the black eyed peas wack for doing the same thing Kanye did.

 

[jjs07]

Kanye also produced the star spangled banner

 

[nako xl]

Back then, hip-hop albums weren't giving credits to ghost producers.

Kanye produced It's All About the Benjamins.

Sauce Money wrote a lot of Reasonable Doubt.

No one knew.

Things change.  Today if you tell Kanye to pronounce words differently or switch up a word altogether you might get a writer credit.

Game had a writer credit on Crack Music (even though his verse was removed).

Whoa...Kanye didn't do All About the Benjamins and Sauce definitely didn't write a lot of Reasonable Doubt. Where did you get any of that ******** from?

The stuff Kanye did do with D-Dot he got credit for, and it didn't include the stuff on No Way Out.

Next, there's a difference in a beat maker and a producer.

Kanye produced what?!!!!!!

When he first came out Kanye said he ghost produced on a lot of D. Dot's beats and strongly implied "All About the Benjamins" was one of them.  D. Dot even had to address it at some point and say Kanye lied and that he gave him credit for everything he worked on.  *shrug*

And Sauce Money wrote on a lot of Reasonable Doubt.  He said so himself.  People co-signed the claim.  Jay wouldn't address it other than brushing it off.

*shrug*

All hip-hop artists collaborate.  This myth of one man and a producer is just that - a myth.

Let's not bring up the video of Drake in a studio with eleventeen writers before So Far Gone came out.

 

[thunderchunk69]

It's common practice outside of rap.

Michael Jackson wasn't writing and and producing his work.

And Quincy Jones wasn't doing all the writing and beat making.

this, I understand why dudes feel "lied to", but get over it.

 

[cronicmolemolereturns]

Yeezus is not going platinum

 

[Hahahaha]

Interesting Rick Rubin article. Sounds like what a lot of people have been saying.




Rick Rubin addresses Kanye West's need to combine both minimalism and edginess on "Yeezus."

Following the announcement of Def Jam co-founder Rick Rubin as the executive producer of Yeezus, Kanye West’s sixth studio album, the noted producer has gone on to detail his contributions on the project while speaking with select outlets including The Daily Beast.

While speaking with The Daily Beast as part of an exclusive interview, Rubin, who was brought on just weeks before Yeezus was to be released, referred to the album as being “unfocused” at one point, especially given the short period of time Kanye was hoping to complete the project in.

“Kind of meandering, unfocused, usually without his vocals,” said Rubin, when asked what the album sounded like when he was recruited. “I assumed that the album was scheduled to come out next year.”

Rubin also addressed Kanye’s decision to combine both edginess and minimalism while crafting the records on Yeezus. The producer revealed that rather than add components to a record to make it better, Kanye would ask that he instead take away from the song.

“There was so much material we could really pick which direction it was going to go,” he revealed. “The idea of making it edgy and minimal and hard was Kanye’s. I’d say, 'This song is not so good. Should I start messing with it? Can I make it better?' And he’d say, 'Yes, but instead of adding stuff, try taking stuff away.' We talked a lot about minimalism. My house is basically an empty white box. When he walked in, he was like, 'My house is an empty white box, too!'"

Kanye West officially confirmed Rick Rubin as executive producer of Yeezus during an album listening session in New York City, which took place a week before the album’s June 18 release.

 

[jc619er]

A producer isn't always the one who plays all the instruments and writes all the music. A producer is a constructor of different parts to make a whole. Look at Dre. Dude constructs all the pieces everybody else plays for him. Why do you think everything Scott Storch made on his own sounded Chronic 2001 2.0.

 

[Magic33]

When he first came out Kanye said he ghost produced on a lot of D. Dot's beats and strongly implied "All About the Benjamins" was one of them.  D. Dot even had to address it at some point and say Kanye lied and that he gave him credit for everything he worked on.  *shrug*

And Sauce Money wrote on a lot of Reasonable Doubt.  He said so himself.  People co-signed the claim.  Jay wouldn't address it other than brushing it off.

*shrug*

All hip-hop artists collaborate.  This myth of one man and a producer is just that - a myth.

Let's not bring up the video of Drake in a studio with eleventeen writers before So Far Gone came out.

You're spreading ********

First, it's not ghost producing if you get the credit. Kanye is listed as the co-producer of the songs he did with D Dot. It was for the Mad Rapper album, Mase and I forgot what else. Kanye was still with No ID when All About The Benjamins came out. All About The Benjamins was done in Dominican Republic, because Puff took all the Bad Boy producers there for a month. Kanye wasn't on that trip with the rest of The Hitmen.

Sauce never said he ghost wrote for Jay-Z. So Sauce was writing for Jay-Z while Jay was writing for Bleek and Foxy? This doesn't even make sense. So Big was impressed by the way Jay-Z was repeating Sauce Money lyrics in his head? Sauce wrote on Bring It On, that was it. Who cosigned it? Post some **** as proof.

Please stop repeating any of this, because all of it is factually incorrect. Dudes hear some **** someone else told them and run with it. I know dudes who know Sauce.

 

[jthagreat]

Sauce Money wrote a lot of Reasonable Doubt.

And Sauce Money wrote on a lot of Reasonable Doubt. He said so himself. People co-signed the claim. Jay wouldn't address it other than brushing it off.

provide some links

 

[hypebeast21]

yeezus is something else

 

[Magic33]

A producer isn't always the one who plays all the instruments and writes all the music. A producer is a constructor of different parts to make a whole. Look at Dre. Dude constructs all the pieces everybody else plays for him. Why do you think everything Scott Storch made on his own sounded Chronic 2001 2.0.

I think it's because people don't know the difference in beat making and producing.

Most people start out as beatmakers first, and then someone teaches them how to be a producer, either engineers or a more experienced producer. Like how Timbaland was under Devante, and then Danja came out from him. It's one thing to use a sample or lay down the drum pattern. It's another thing to get that song on the radio.

And Kanye uses so many different beat makers and producers, because his tracks are so layered. He might like your drums. He might like another persons snares. Then he has songs where the beat changes three times. So that one song might really be like three. I don't have a problem with it, because he gives the artist and producers credit. It's not like he's trying to deceive anyone. I just don't like for people to say he's one of the top rappers, because the way he does it sort of eliminates him from that category.

Kanye doesn't have time to be in the studio like he used to.

 

[stopcappin]

Hitboy said he's no longer on G.O.O.D, did he have any production credits on Yeezus?

 

[nako xl]

When he first came out Kanye said he ghost produced on a lot of D. Dot's beats and strongly implied "All About the Benjamins" was one of them.  D. Dot even had to address it at some point and say Kanye lied and that he gave him credit for everything he worked on.  *shrug*

And Sauce Money wrote on a lot of Reasonable Doubt.  He said so himself.  People co-signed the claim.  Jay wouldn't address it other than brushing it off.

*shrug*

All hip-hop artists collaborate.  This myth of one man and a producer is just that - a myth.

Let's not bring up the video of Drake in a studio with eleventeen writers before So Far Gone came out.

You're spreading ********

First, it's not ghost producing if you get the credit. Kanye is listed as the co-producer of the songs he did with D Dot. It was for the Mad Rapper album, Mase and I forgot what else. Kanye was still with No ID when All About The Benjamins came out. All About The Benjamins was done in Dominican Republic, because Puff took all the Bad Boy producers there for a month. Kanye wasn't on that trip with the rest of The Hitmen.

Sauce never said he ghost wrote for Jay-Z. So Sauce was writing for Jay-Z while Jay was writing for Bleek and Foxy? This doesn't even make sense. So Big was impressed by the way Jay-Z was repeating Sauce Money lyrics in his head? Sauce wrote on Bring It On, that was it. Who cosigned it? Post some **** as proof.

Please stop repeating any of this, because all of it is factually incorrect. Dudes hear some **** someone else told them and run with it. I know dudes who know Sauce.

You're annoying.

Let me repeat myself:

Kanye when he first came out claimed he used to ghost produce for D. Dot.  He claimed D. Dot didn't give him credit for several songs he worked on.  One of the songs it was hinted at was All About the Benjamins.  D. Dot himself addressed this directly and said Kanye got credit for everything he did and that Kanye is spreading falsehoods.  Kanye repeated that he wasn't credited for all of his work.

EYE said this.  You basically repeated what I said then said I was making **** up because Kanye isn't listed on songs.  D. Dot himself addressed what kanye said whether it was true or not.

Sauce Money came out and said he used to write for Puff and several roc-a-fella/def jam artists.  He and others said he wrote for Reasonable Doubt.  I can't find any of the Hot 97 interviews where it was discussed but it was put out there.

Both of these rumors, he-said she-said, were circa 2004, so i can't find any of the stuff on them anymore but they were both discussed heavily ON HERE too.

But both are besides the point.  They both go back to, rappers and crews collab.  No man is an island.  Everyone spits **** for people and has them give feedback and help revise verses.  No one does **** 100% on their own.

And to emphasize, I really don't care about arguing about the D. Dot or Sauce Money things.  People here have already heard those discussions.  They were just throw ins to my overall point.

 

[lver of jordan]

this album is amazing, definetly picking up another 10 copies teusday

Shut up & no your not. Album was trash only like 2 songs I can **** wit everything was kaka, Cole won!

 

[licensed to ball]

Hitboy said he's no longer on G.O.O.D, did he have any production credits on Yeezus?

Damn. Whered he say that?

I guess he wasn't feelin that Yeezus movement either

 

[00david00]

i always wondered why crack music only had game on the hook

there was one with his verse on it.

mind blown

 

[roc boy jada]