Cam Newton is too raw to be a successful NFL QB...

Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg

But.... you said Tim Tebow is better
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I'd rather have Tim Tebow as my quarterback. When you take the sum components of what they do on the football field, you don't get much difference. You can sit here and be blinded by a few good games and a few passes that Steve Smith freaked on, but snap back to reality for a second.

Tim Tebow is 2-2 as a starter for the Denver Broncos. Kyle Orton couldn't sniff a .500 record with the same team. Cam Newton, with a MUCH better offense I might add, won't sniff a .500 record this year. If Tebow hits Decker on that bomb for a TD every naysayer would be singing a different tune. He was 1 yard on a deep ball away from making the doubters think twice.
 
Originally Posted by nestasprotege

He has won two games against the ******** and Jaguars.

He is barely sniffing a 60% completion percentage and, considering his toss-ups to Smith, that's horrendous.

He has more interceptions than touchdowns.

He is a glorified Jason Campbell.

Tim Tebow is better than Cam Newton. I'm being dead serious.
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 you dont know sports

  
 
Originally Posted by nestasprotege

Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg

But.... you said Tim Tebow is better
grin.gif
I'd rather have Tim Tebow as my quarterback. When you take the sum components of what they do on the football field, you don't get much difference. You can sit here and be blinded by a few good games and a few passes that Steve Smith freaked on, but snap back to reality for a second.

Tim Tebow is 2-2 as a starter for the Denver Broncos. Kyle Orton couldn't sniff a .500 record with the same team. Cam Newton, with a MUCH better offense I might add, won't sniff a .500 record this year. If Tebow hits Decker on that bomb for a TD every naysayer would be singing a different tune. He was 1 yard on a deep ball away from making the doubters think twice.


But Tebow gets credit for beating a horrible team like the Dolphins, but it's a knock on Cam when he beats the Jags and ********....

I get it. 
 
make this stop... i love the excuses

i dont see Jay Cutler or Derek Anderson throwin for 400 yards... Cam is alot more than size/arm talent... hes makin this transition look too smooth... every weak he puts that awful team in a position to compete
 
Originally Posted by CAFinest23

The slander of Cam Newton is stupid. Cam is a beast point blank period.
You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. However, please tell me what basis in fact your opinion is derived from.

2 wins 5 losses

The Jaguars and the ******** are the teams he has beaten

8 TDs 9 INTs

60.3 completion %

Now, you mean to tell me that you are basing your opinion on two 400 yard games against garbage defenses where he was down the entire time? Where Steve Smith went absolutely nuts? Where there were at least 3 occasions when he had to throw a ball to his receiver without a defender within 20 yards? And one run where he juked out some garbage safety from the ********? Lettuce be reality.
 
In bout 3-4 years. this kid is gonna be unreal. With no offseason workout, no playbook, and just coming to camp and he made a smooth transition. Look at the way this kid throws the football. Payton Manning, drew brees, Brady wasnt throwing like this as rookies. along with his athletic ability. I dont know what yall dudes be watching. it show aint football.
 
Originally Posted by nestasprotege

No one has addressed my original points.

Also, is he better than Mike Vick? Is he better than Vince Young? If you answered Yes two either of those questions, exit stage left.

Yes he is better than Vick.  Just because Vick can't stay healthy.  A fresh Vick is better than a fresh Cam but Vick just isn't built to withstand 16 games, especially since he is getting older now. 

I don't know why Vince Young's name is even brought up. 
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Originally Posted by RyGuy45

All the headlines about Newton before the season were mainly created by the blowhard media and 14 trillion NFL mock "experts" who stuck to an agenda. They as usual create the storyline then all fall in line. We all knew because Newton was an athletic black QB he was going to be torn to shreds by these idiots.

At the end of the day the people that matter (the NFL) took him with the first pick in the draft ahead of every other player.

That's why those headlines don't mean much to me IMO and he's not getting back at anyone right now. Dude is playing great and showing why he was the first pick.
 
You sit there and say '"if tebow hits decker on those deep throws he gets the same praise" well cam makes those throws.

Cam has had us in every game this year deep into the 4th quarter.

Did you not see the throw he made to Smitty in double coverage yesterday? Perfect throw. He was also 18-23 against a defense that has been pretty good this season.

The Panthers are 2-5 only because the defense is bad, especially the run d. You can score 30 points a game but if the D cant stop anyone it does no good
 
Originally Posted by CP1708



And I like Dalton, just crossin that out cuz TCU guy came in to hype his guy in a Cam thread. 
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Dalton has better completion percentage, a better rating, less interceptions, and more wins.
 
Originally Posted by woody2626

You sit there and say '"if tebow hits decker on those deep throws he gets the same praise" well cam makes those throws.

Cam has had us in every game this year deep into the 4th quarter.

Did you not see the throw he made to Smitty in double coverage yesterday? Perfect throw. He was also 18-23 against a defense that has been pretty good this season.

The Panthers are 2-5 only because the defense is bad, especially the run d. You can score 30 points a game but if the D cant stop anyone it does no good
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Now Cam Newton is better than Mike Vick? And Cam Newton makes all his deep throws?

Are you all serious right now? I knew NT was full of young grasshoppers, but the amount of unintelligent responses baffles me. The guy has won two games and has very very very mediocre stats. And he throws to one of the top 3 receivers on jump balls in the league.

Give me a break. Seriously.
 
I bet the same people who hate Cam are the same people who hate Tebow. You people hate just to hate.
 
Y'all really need to stop talking about wins. Bc Cam has no control of how crappy the D is.


The year the Ravens won the SB he asked Trent to just put 17 points on the board. And they would win a SB.

Cam is putting up 30 and still has a 2-5 record. Defense is that awful.
 
dude made it look too easy in college. i knew that had to translate into some sort of success in the nfl.
 
Originally Posted by nestasprotege

Now Cam Newton is better than Mike Vick? And Cam Newton makes all his deep throws?

Are you all serious right now? I knew NT was full of young grasshoppers, but the amount of unintelligent responses baffles me. The guy has won two games and has very very very mediocre stats. And he throws to one of the top 3 receivers on jump balls in the league.

Give me a break. Seriously.
Forget it...  
 
Originally Posted by Trelvis Tha Thrilla

Originally Posted by CP1708



And I like Dalton, just crossin that out cuz TCU guy came in to hype his guy in a Cam thread. 
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Dalton has better completion percentage, a better rating, less interceptions, and more wins.

Ok.......Dan Marino has more yards, wins, TD's, INT's, completions, attempts, dollars, cars, and MVP's than Dalton.  All the same relevance to this thread.  Nobody gives a @#$% about Dalton in this thread, except you. 


You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. However, please tell me what basis in fact your opinion is derived from.

2 wins 5 losses

The Jaguars and the ******** are the teams he has beaten

8 TDs 9 INTs

60.3 completion %

Now, you mean to tell me that you are basing your opinion on two 400 yard games against garbage defenses where he was down the entire time? Where Steve Smith went absolutely nuts? Where there were at least 3 occasions when he had to throw a ball to his receiver without a defender within 20 yards? And one run where he juked out some garbage safety from the ********? Lettuce be reality.

Are you going to ever mention the rushing yards he gets, or the rushing TD's for that matter? 

Will you bring up him taking this team that was 1-15 last year, and having them be competitive in each game so far this year?  

Are we supposed to expect this kid to come in and suddenly be 4-2 like it's nothing?  He alone was gonna fix 1-15? 
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Let the kid play a little.  If this is just scratching the surface, what is he gon do when he actually has some experience?  What's he gonna do when the talent around him builds?  These are the things you should be looking at, not picking and choosing stats to make your argument look wise. 


  
 
Originally Posted by woody2626

You sit there and say '"if tebow hits decker on those deep throws he gets the same praise" well cam makes those throws.

Cam has had us in every game this year deep into the 4th quarter.

Did you not see the throw he made to Smitty in double coverage yesterday? Perfect throw. He was also 18-23 against a defense that has been pretty good this season.

The Panthers are 2-5 only because the defense is bad, especially the run d. You can score 30 points a game but if the D cant stop anyone it does no good

I would say don't even respond to that nonsense but you summed it up perfectly. Get a W next week and watch how back to back wins gives us the confidence needed at this point in the season. You dudes should enjoy the ride.
  
 
Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Trelvis Tha Thrilla

Originally Posted by CP1708



And I like Dalton, just crossin that out cuz TCU guy came in to hype his guy in a Cam thread. 
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Dalton has better completion percentage, a better rating, less interceptions, and more wins.

Ok.......Dan Marino has more yards, wins, TD's, INT's, completions, attempts, dollars, cars, and MVP's than Dalton.  All the same relevance to this thread.  Nobody gives a @#$% about Dalton in this thread, except you. 



  
Obviously you did enough to reply twice.
 
Originally Posted by nestasprotege

Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg

But.... you said Tim Tebow is better
grin.gif
I'd rather have Tim Tebow as my quarterback. When you take the sum components of what they do on the football field, you don't get much difference. You can sit here and be blinded by a few good games and a few passes that Steve Smith freaked on, but snap back to reality for a second.

Tim Tebow is 2-2 as a starter for the Denver Broncos. Kyle Orton couldn't sniff a .500 record with the same team. Cam Newton, with a MUCH better offense I might add, won't sniff a .500 record this year. If Tebow hits Decker on that bomb for a TD every naysayer would be singing a different tune. He was 1 yard on a deep ball away from making the doubters think twice.


   You should follow your own advice champ..................

exit stage left.
 
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