Offical Pats are 16-0.

Dolphins stayin salty
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They are too good. Sure they have weaknesses but they have a lot of veteran leadership to make up for it and overcome it, from the coaches to the players, atnearly every position. It's why they are so mentally tough and this is why they don't choke.
 
iNiNe5 wrote:
they are not "undefeated" yet....
If they're not undefeated, then they've been defeated.

So who have they lost to?

No one.

They're undefeated.

As of right now, today, the 2007-2008 Patriots are undefeated.

Now, have they completed an undefeated season? No, because the 2007-2008 NFL season is not over.

But they ARE undefeated (as of right now, but that can change), and they DO have an undefeated regular season (as of right now, and that will never change).
 
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

iNiNe5 wrote:
they are not "undefeated" yet....
If they're not undefeated, then they've been defeated.

So who have they lost to?

No one.

They're undefeated.

As of right now, today, the 2007-2008 Patriots are undefeated.

Now, have they completed an undefeated season? No, because the 2007-2008 NFL season is not over.

But they ARE undefeated (as of right now, but that can change), and they DO have an undefeated regular season (as of right now, and that will never change).

This is the most I've seen ska fired up after or for a football game period.
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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

iNiNe5 wrote:
they are not "undefeated" yet....
If they're not undefeated, then they've been defeated.

So who have they lost to?

No one.

They're undefeated.

As of right now, today, the 2007-2008 Patriots are undefeated.

Now, have they completed an undefeated season? No, because the 2007-2008 NFL season is not over.

But they ARE undefeated (as of right now, but that can change), and they DO have an undefeated regular season (as of right now, and that will never change).

they are NOT "undefeated".... undefeated to me means you have nothing left to play and you have not been beaten... but they still have 3 games toplay, hence, we cannot claim them as undefeated yet.
 
RetroBaller wrote:
and next week they will be 0-0 like 11 other teams..
Agreed.

I'm not saying, "They're the Champions! It's over! Give 'em their trophy!"

Never that.

I was simply debating the argument that they're NOT undefeated right now.

They are.

Seriously, some of you are trying too hard (to make sure you stay hating).

No, that's not directed at any one in particular.








No, not even you.
 
congrats to Pats. They deserve it, now go win the damn thing.

Regardless how much we all hate him, Tom Brady is that dude...
Eli Manning on the other hand...hmm...
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Manning should feel thankful because NY still got Isiah Thomas to *%%++ about....
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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

RetroBaller wrote:
and next week they will be 0-0 like 11 other teams..
Agreed.

I'm not saying, "They're the Champions! It's over! Give 'em their trophy!"

Never that.

I was simply debating the argument that they're NOT undefeated right now.

They are.

Seriously, some of you are trying too hard (to make sure you stay hating).

No, that's not directed at any one in particular.








No, not even you.

hey i live in boston and am a pats fan too... but i'm not gonna call them undefeated.... cuz the word "defeated" becomes relevant only whenthere is nothing left to play for... when the season is finally over, one way or another.
but anyways, this is pointless arguing over this. let's just enjoy this and look forward to playoffs.....
 
hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
 
RetroBaller wrote:
and next week they will be 0-0 like 11 other teams..
Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Agreed.

I'm not saying, "They're the Champions! It's over! Give 'em their trophy!"

Never that.

I was simply debating the argument that they're NOT undefeated right now.

They are.

Seriously, some of you are trying too hard (to make sure you stay hating).

No, that's not directed at any one in particular.








No, not even you.
iNiNe5 wrote:
hey i live in boston and am a pats fan too... but i'm not gonna call them undefeated.... cuz the word "defeated" becomes relevant only when there is nothing left to play for... when the season is finally over, one way or another.
but anyways, this is pointless arguing over this. let's just enjoy this and look forward to playoffs.....


Actually, the fact that you're a Pats fan does change things. I was going to say, "Well, 'undefeated' to YOU might mean 'youhave nothing left to play and you have not been beaten', but that doesn't mean that's what the actual definition is. The actual definition issimply 'victorious all the time'. And this season, the Patriots have been victorious, all the time," but I see where you're coming from now.

You're just trying not to crown your team prematurely over an awesome but meaningless perfect regular season mark.

Gotcha.

I'd be the same way if I were in your shoes.
 
Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
we'll see how much of an advantage Foxborough is when(if!) its pouring snow, and the wind is gusting....
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Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
we'll see how much of an advantage Foxborough is when(if!) its pouring snow, and the wind is gusting....
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these guys practice in those conditions..... those thinking that the pats "homefield" advantage is really a "homefield-disadvantage"should think again....
 
Originally Posted by 27th4theHood

how did i know someone would start a post.
might as well get ready for the 20 pats-related threads that are gonna be posted
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but i got to see history
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good for the pats..they are amazing...
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Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
we'll see how much of an advantage Foxborough is when(if!) its pouring snow, and the wind is gusting....
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these guys practice in those conditions..... those thinking that the pats "homefield" advantage is really a "homefield-disadvantage" should think again....

I'm not saying its a disadvantage...but its tough to throw the ball in the conditions in which I described.....what does practice have to do when thewind is blowing everything out of the air??
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
we'll see how much of an advantage Foxborough is when(if!) its pouring snow, and the wind is gusting....
pimp.gif

these guys practice in those conditions..... those thinking that the pats "homefield" advantage is really a "homefield-disadvantage" should think again....

I'm not saying its a disadvantage...but its tough to throw the ball in the conditions in which I described.....what does practice have to do when the wind is blowing everything out of the air??

you think the pats only practice long 50 yard bombs to moss....SMH.... they can change the gameplan, make adjustments as good as any team... the pats canrun, dink-and-dunk of they need to....
i know the jags beat the steelers in pittsburgh in snowy weather, i know..... but the steelers are NOT the 16-0 newengland patriots....
 
Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by iNiNe5

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

hey they did their thing....buts its not over yet...they're going to have to beat some great teams...nothing else matters in the big picture

i'm just glad they got the bye and homefield so no need to travel.... the defence is dead tired.....
we'll see how much of an advantage Foxborough is when(if!) its pouring snow, and the wind is gusting....
pimp.gif

these guys practice in those conditions..... those thinking that the pats "homefield" advantage is really a "homefield-disadvantage" should think again....

I'm not saying its a disadvantage...but its tough to throw the ball in the conditions in which I described.....what does practice have to do when the wind is blowing everything out of the air??

you think the pats only practice long 50 yard bombs to moss....SMH.... they can change the gameplan, make adjustments as good as any team... the pats can run, dink-and-dunk of they need to....
i know the jags beat the steelers in pittsburgh in snowy weather, i know..... but the steelers are NOT the 16-0 new england patriots....

I kno the Pats can make adjustments they are a great coached team, with HOF talent... They could pull out a win, in multiple ways....your right...but lookat how they've played their entire season....this team wants to throw the ball down field....and we haven't really seen what will happen if theycan't do so effectively. All it takes is one ugly game...
 
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