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Does Chris Webber Belong In The Hall of Fame?

post #1 of 97
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I was recently looking at his career numbers and Chris Webber was a beast.  He passed as well as any big man I've seen in the last 15 years, had a reliable jump shot, and could finish at the basket as well.  I know he didn't win anything, but he had a pretty good career nonetheless.  What do you guys think?
post #2 of 97
Im not sure, but most likely no. He has good career averages of 20.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 4.2 apg. Putting him no. 75 on the all time scoring list (for reference)
 However, if players were inducted solely by their averages the hall of fame would become less prestigious. Thats why players Mitch Richmond (no. 35 on the all time scoring list), Allen Iverson (no. 17 he might make it one day though), Jerry Stackhouse (no. 88), MIchael Finley (no.71), Antawn Jamison (no. 59), Glen Rice(no. 56), VInce Carter (no. 36),  Cliff Robinson (no.40), Juwan Howard (no.89), Tracy McGrady (no.59) will never make it to the hall.
To get inducted a players has to have a big impact on the league, several deep playoff runs (not necessarily a ring which JOhn Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone dont have and are inducted). Thats why players like Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Shaq, Kobe, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, TIm Duncan (obviously)smiley: eyes will be inducted. Im not sure if  players like Gary Payton (no 26) & Paul Pierce (no 30) will be inducted. Like I said you cant induct every good/almost great player in the hall.
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post #3 of 97
difficult  question because he was such a great player, I believe he would've gotten the kings a tittle had he not been injured early in the 06 mavs series , one of the more gut wrenching things to watch ....He was one of those players that could've had multiple championships (college and Pro) but fell just short on both levels
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post #4 of 97
NBA only, no.  But overall, college/NBA like how it really is, I will say yes. 

What he did at Michigan is bigger than anything he did in the NBA.  His NBA career is borderline as is, but in a lot of ways, I could make the argument that his career did not live up to what it COULD have been.  That kid could have been one of "those" and by that I mean one of the special ones, one of the top 20 type all timers. 
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post #5 of 97
Hell no
post #6 of 97
Yes.
post #7 of 97
.....of course,.....how is this even a question?
 
 
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post #8 of 97
One of the most versatile big-men ever...I say YES.

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post #9 of 97

NBA only, no.  But overall, college/NBA like how it really is, I will say yes.

I agree with this I think. I've gone back and forth on Webber's candidacy and I'm trying to think how the voters will think. I think many will hold his injuries, his "not living up to his potential greatness" and lastly his Michigan "scandal" against him so he won't get in right away. But he eventually will end up voted in I think but I don't know when.

He missed a TON of games.


post #10 of 97
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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

Allen Iverson (no. 17 he might make it one day though),

To get inducted a players has to have a big impact on the league, several deep playoff runs (not necessarily a ring which JOhn Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone dont have and are inducted). Thats why players like Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Shaq, Kobe, TIm Duncan (obviously)smiley: eyes will be inducted./


MVP (show me a player who won this award and isn't in the hall)
Numerous Scoring Titles
Lead a bum @$% Sixers squad to the finals
Countless All Star Appearances
Impact on the game is as big as any player not named Jordan

Based solely on what he's done in between those 4 lines... there's no might about his induction.
  
post #11 of 97
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

Allen Iverson (no. 17 he might make it one day though),

To get inducted a players has to have a big impact on the league, several deep playoff runs (not necessarily a ring which JOhn Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone dont have and are inducted). Thats why players like Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Shaq, Kobe, TIm Duncan (obviously)smiley: eyes will be inducted./


MVP (show me a player who won this award and isn't in the hall)
Numerous Scoring Titles
Lead a bum @$% Sixers squad to the finals
Countless All Star Appearances
Impact on the game is as big as any player not named Jordan

Based solely on what he's done in between those 4 lines... there's no might about his induction.
  


Wait...are people REALLY questioning AI's HOF merits???  laugh.gif  You gotta be *%$@%#@ kidding me. 
  
post #12 of 97
Yeah Pierce is in in my books. Dudes a reckless beast on the court.
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post #13 of 97
AI's HOF probability is my main concern. I almost resorted to name-calling for this discussion.
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Iverson will be a HOF
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post #14 of 97
Come on, there is NO debate about either AI or Gary Payton getting into the hall.
post #15 of 97
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

Allen Iverson (no. 17 he might make it one day though),

To get inducted a players has to have a big impact on the league, several deep playoff runs (not necessarily a ring which JOhn Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone dont have and are inducted). Thats why players like Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Shaq, Kobe, TIm Duncan (obviously)smiley: eyes will be inducted./


MVP (show me a player who won this award and isn't in the hall)
Numerous Scoring Titles
Lead a bum @$% Sixers squad to the finals
Countless All Star Appearances
Impact on the game is as big as any player not named Jordan

Based solely on what he's done in between those 4 lines... there's no might about his induction.
  


Wait...are people REALLY questioning AI's HOF merits???  laugh.gif  You gotta be *%$@%#@ kidding me. 
  



Its constantly questioned on NT... Never heard it questioned anywhere else but here.
post #16 of 97
If Chris Mullin went in, then Webber is DEFINITELY goin in

Mullin is a great player, but Webber made more of an impact, esp in the playoffs with the Kings. Webber was "the guy" on every team he played for except for Detroit.
post #17 of 97
There's no way in hell Pierce and GP don't make it to the hall. Same with AI. CWebb will eventually make it too I think. Like someone else said, based off his college/NBA career combined. Also gotta look in the era he played in, and players he competed against.

Also on a side note, dude already has a spot in the HoF. He has a section detected to his collection of African American artifacts. I thought that was pretty cool when I saw that last year.
post #18 of 97
Mullin was a good player in the NBA but didn't he mostly get in because of what HR did at St. John's?

I say eventually Webber gets in.
post #19 of 97
Hell yes.
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post #20 of 97
I think they made a mistake by inducting Mullin.
 
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post #21 of 97
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Originally Posted by CP1708

NBA only, no.  But overall, college/NBA like how it really is, I will say yes.  
post #22 of 97
had he stayed healthy, there probably wouldn't be a question.

as much love as KG gets on here, the only thing he did better than cwebb was defend.

my main man averaged 20 and 10 in philadelphia w/o any knees.
post #23 of 97
For how much Webber's prime offensive game beats up on Garnett's I still think Garnett and Webber are incomparable IMHO.

Between 1995 to 2005 Webber missed 232 games.

Garnett missed 11.


There has to be an element of "if you aren't out there then you are doing us no good."

Garnett for all his flaws brought it every night.
post #24 of 97
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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

I think they made a mistake by inducting Mullin.

don't think so.


Iverson gets in.

Payton gets in.

Webber gets in.

post #25 of 97
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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

I think they made a mistake by inducting Mullin.

How? College achievements, Olympic Gold Medals, NBA achievements, career stats, and I definitely think he had an impact on how people played basketball.

And no, I don't think Webber deserves to get in, but I think he will. (Not first ballot)
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Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers

had he stayed healthy, there probably wouldn't be a question.

as much love as KG gets on here, the only thing he did better than cwebb was defend.

my main man averaged 20 and 10 in philadelphia w/o any knees.

Garnett was a better rebounder. KG didn't have as much flash and the court vision Webb had, but was as, if not more, effective a passer than Chris.
post #26 of 97
No.

And if ____ got in then _____ should get in, is really starting to bug me.
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post #27 of 97
Webber will get in... He had a good NBA career, but what he did at Michigan will get recognition as well.

Oh... & Iverson is a lock. laugh.gif
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No.

And if ____ got in then _____ should get in, is really starting to bug me.

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post #29 of 97
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Originally Posted by Brondiesel

Im not sure, but most likely no. He has good career averages of 20.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 4.2 apg. Putting him no. 75 on the all time scoring list (for reference)
 However, if players were inducted solely by their averages the hall of fame would become less prestigious. Thats why players Mitch Richmond (no. 35 on the all time scoring list), Allen Iverson (no. 17 he might make it one day though), Jerry Stackhouse (no. 88), MIchael Finley (no.71), Antawn Jamison (no. 59), Glen Rice(no. 56), VInce Carter (no. 36),  Cliff Robinson (no.40), Juwan Howard (no.89), Tracy McGrady (no.59) will never make it to the hall.
To get inducted a players has to have a big impact on the league, several deep playoff runs (not necessarily a ring which JOhn Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone dont have and are inducted). Thats why players like Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Shaq, Kobe, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, TIm Duncan (obviously)smiley: eyes will be inducted. Im not sure if  players like Gary Payton (no 26) & Paul Pierce (no 30) will be inducted. Like I said you cant induct every good/almost great player in the hall.




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post #30 of 97
if there's a hall of fame for black socks, then he's in 

but really, I want him to be in but I am not so sure because Webber wasn't exactly an 'impact player'. Never really had a national team career, pro career was decent overall and I bet he brushed lot of people off (*cough* writers *cough*) when he was in college and some of those people still can be salty over that smiley: grin
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