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post #1 of 29
11/13/11 at 5:19am
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Supplements like NO-Xplode and Jack3D help get you pumped for workouts, but are they bad for your body long term?
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post #2 of 29
11/13/11 at 5:28am
i used to use jack3d, but i've stopped. that stem effect wore out its welcome. it was cool when i first started, but after a while..

as far as effects...there's been reports of acne in the short term, which i can attest to...and theres also been quite a few guys that have attributed jack3d to speeding up baldness in the long term...

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post #3 of 29
11/13/11 at 5:34am
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When I took Jack3D and I would come down off it, it would feel like I was coming down off coke or some %+*@.
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post #4 of 29
11/13/11 at 7:57am
im pretty sure its the creatine in those that causes the acne, ive been taking amino energy before workouts for over a year now- its basically the same as NO Xplode or Jack3d, just without the creatine (not only does creatine have some side effects, once you stop taking it, you lose the gains from it- doesnt make sense to me unless youre in a competition or something).

and feel like youre comin off coke^? damb, you must be takin too much- 1 scoop of jack3d is enough
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post #5 of 29
11/13/11 at 8:09am
bad for your heart from what i understand
anything that has the same side effects as viagra is a no go in my book

an old school professional bodybuilder (dude in his 60's) said espresso is the way to go.. idk bout all that
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post #6 of 29
11/13/11 at 8:10am
i doubt there has been any long-term studies done on any of these supps
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post #7 of 29
11/13/11 at 8:13am
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Originally Posted by kingjamesvehs

an old school professional bodybuilder (dude in his 60's) said espresso is the way to go.. idk bout all that




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i accomplished FEATS on this stuff laugh.gif
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post #8 of 29
11/13/11 at 8:17am
cmon dudes we have a whole huge thread dedicated to this...in which these questions have already been answered!

Use it when you need "a boost" not - all the time.

Rely on food sources for energy.
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post #9 of 29
11/13/11 at 9:35am
Gives you that "boost" for an extra 2 reps.
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post #10 of 29
11/13/11 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

im pretty sure its the creatine in those that causes the acne, ive been taking amino energy before workouts for over a year now- its basically the same as NO Xplode or Jack3d, just without the creatine (not only does creatine have some side effects, once you stop taking it, you lose the gains from it- doesnt make sense to me unless youre in a competition or something).

and feel like youre comin off coke^? damb, you must be takin too much- 1 scoop of jack3d is enough

I don't think it's the creatine.  Creatine is a compound that the human body creates, it's also found in red meat.

I'm convinced that acne comes from whey or any milk derived proteins as well as any supplements that cause an abnormal amount of HGH to flood the blood stream sort of like when your in puberty.

I've used Kre-Alkalyn and no side effects.  No bloating...nothing.
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post #11 of 29
11/13/11 at 10:12am
Like Silva said, we really have no long term studies to go by. I would assume yes though. Just like any other "drug."
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post #12 of 29
11/13/11 at 10:20am
I use Jack3d atm.

Yes it gives me that boost. I w/o after work. I'm a cubicle warrior and the monotony just wears me down.

and yes it does have that "stim" effect. I go through cycles with it - after finishing a tub I go 3-4 weeks without it then have it again.

When NO-Xplode came out it was awesome, but the taste was awful. I ODd on it and I had to stop...but boy that thing set me off like a firecracker.

If you think it's bad then don't take it, plain and simple. They can't be any worse than real-juicing though.
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post #13 of 29
11/13/11 at 10:29am
8weeks on 4 weeks off, time off is for ur receptors to cleanse, if u don't go off stims and creatine ur body builds a tolerant to it. That is all , pimples are usually cause by too much stuff going on in ur liver, do a liver cleanse also while off of stims or creatine
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post #14 of 29
11/13/11 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by GrimlocK

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Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

im pretty sure its the creatine in those that causes the acne, ive been taking amino energy before workouts for over a year now- its basically the same as NO Xplode or Jack3d, just without the creatine (not only does creatine have some side effects, once you stop taking it, you lose the gains from it- doesnt make sense to me unless youre in a competition or something).

and feel like youre comin off coke^? damb, you must be takin too much- 1 scoop of jack3d is enough

I don't think it's the creatine.  Creatine is a compound that the human body creates, it's also found in red meat.

I'm convinced that acne comes from whey or any milk derived proteins as well as any supplements that cause an abnormal amount of HGH to flood the blood stream sort of like when your in puberty.

I've used Kre-Alkalyn and no side effects.  No bloating...nothing.


Right on, I know that we produce it naturally, but Ive had friends that have experienced acne from taking creatine as a supplement. Also, the increased gains that youll experience on creatine will go away (back to your norm) without it

  
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post #15 of 29
11/13/11 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by damnTHOSEjs

I use Jack3d atm.

Yes it gives me that boost. I w/o after work. I'm a cubicle warrior and the monotony just wears me down.

and yes it does have that "stim" effect. I go through cycles with it - after finishing a tub I go 3-4 weeks without it then have it again.

When NO-Xplode came out it was awesome, but the taste was awful. I ODd on it and I had to stop...but boy that thing set me off like a firecracker.

If you think it's bad then don't take it, plain and simple. They can't be any worse than real-juicing though.



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post #16 of 29
11/13/11 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

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Originally Posted by GrimlocK

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Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

im pretty sure its the creatine in those that causes the acne, ive been taking amino energy before workouts for over a year now- its basically the same as NO Xplode or Jack3d, just without the creatine (not only does creatine have some side effects, once you stop taking it, you lose the gains from it- doesnt make sense to me unless youre in a competition or something).

and feel like youre comin off coke^? damb, you must be takin too much- 1 scoop of jack3d is enough

I don't think it's the creatine.  Creatine is a compound that the human body creates, it's also found in red meat.

I'm convinced that acne comes from whey or any milk derived proteins as well as any supplements that cause an abnormal amount of HGH to flood the blood stream sort of like when your in puberty.

I've used Kre-Alkalyn and no side effects.  No bloating...nothing.


Right on, I know that we produce it naturally, but Ive had friends that have experienced acne from taking creatine as a supplement. Also, the increased gains that youll experience on creatine will go away (back to your norm) without it

  


Not necessarily. Going off creatine will make you lose water weight. The lean muscle mass you gain while youre on it will still be there. The acne your friends get can probably be from whey protein perhaps(assuming they do take it postworkout)?
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post #17 of 29
11/13/11 at 3:05pm
Jack3d works for about 4 uses than fades away. Either had to increase the scoops or give it 3-4 day breaks. 1 M.R is like just like Jack3d but stronger. No-Explode gives me terrible stomach pains. Going through a tube of SP250 just to try something new and liking the results thus far.
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post #18 of 29
11/13/11 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by ar916

if you eat good, sleep good, live good you don't need that stuff 

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What gets me is people don't do their research. They see a big dude at the gym and find out whatever he is taking. No type of research at all. I wish people would stop treating whey as if it is legal steroids. The way folks speak of it you would think that is what it is.
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post #19 of 29
11/13/11 at 4:35pm
Damn what happen to the good old fashion clean way to work out
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post #20 of 29
11/13/11 at 4:42pm
I dont use anything with 1,3 dimethylamylamine in the ingredients
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post #21 of 29
11/13/11 at 4:46pm
All that stuff is junk and the fitness industry is garbage. Stick to the basics.
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post #22 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by Buc Em

When I took Jack3D and I would come down off it, it would feel like I was coming down off coke or some %#$#.



Mannnn that crash is serious for me as well. I thought it was just me. However, I was working out/lifting hard for like 3 hrs straight and wouldn't even know it lol that #@%% REALLY IS CRACK!!! I've stopped using it though as I worry about the long term effects as well. I might have a small cup of coffee before I lift now. A lot cheaper.
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post #23 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:25am
smiley: laugh at people thinking this synthetic processed crap works.
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post #24 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Like Silva said, we really have no long term studies to go by. I would assume yes though. Just like any other "drug."


Drug, though?


There are no long term studies as this is fairly recent development in the fitness community.
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post #25 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:54am
started using Super Pump recently. helps with endurance a little, but left me jittery as hell the first time i took it. wondering if its even worth it.
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post #26 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:56am
Like most things in life, moderation is key.

As far as what works and what doesn't. I'd say if you MUST take something stick to basic whey and cassein powders. If I had to pick one I'd go with cassein; as with whey it is processed too fast by the body to be fully utilized. But that debate is for another day.
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post #27 of 29
11/14/11 at 7:58am
Strong lack of knowledge ITT.
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post #28 of 29
11/14/11 at 8:03am
I am wondering if I should try this. I have only been working out solid for a year and I have been getting stronger and getting more defined but I have only gained about 2 pounds. I am 5'8 and weigh about 162lbs and feel like I could be at least 13 pounds heavier.
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post #29 of 29
11/14/11 at 8:06am
the supp i approve of is whey protein. everything else is just garbage and dangerous.
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