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post #31 of 3702
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Originally Posted by ao17

JB just released these not too long ago. smiley: eyes

Why can't they just retro the Sport Blue VIs, already? 30t6p3b.gif smiley: mad

I think I read that those and the Maroon 6's were coming out next year (Source: The Shoe Game)
post #32 of 3702
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Originally Posted by mjmoney23

Aren't the OG VII Black/varsity red, purple? This sounds like a new colorway to me.

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post #33 of 3702
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Originally Posted by jusbekicks

please drop them like the OG's that came out in 92 my very first pair of J's!!!!!!!!


they were my second pair of J's smiley: smile , was tossing up between the charcoal and the Bordeaux at the time.....

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post #34 of 3702
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Originally Posted by ao17

JB just released these not too long ago. smiley: eyes

Why can't they just retro the Sport Blue VIs, already? 30t6p3b.gif smiley: mad

most of us, even on NT, think they would sit and I have to support that side since the current consumers don't relate/ know about those two cws.
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post #35 of 3702
those dmp joints were SO not the same shoe. the '02s are of incredible quality, those things were built like tanks. 9 years of steady wear, including a number of years of heavy wear, and the soles were still 97% intact, slight heeldrag. strongest, most durable shoe i ever owned.
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post #36 of 3702
Good with my cdp pair. Still on ice. Got a raptors fitted sitting next to them ready to be broken out one day lol.
post #37 of 3702
Im SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as the come out looking like they did in 02' ill be a happy man....

3 pairs for me once again.


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post #39 of 3702
might cop since i refused to buy the dmp pack. still kicking myself for not at least grabbing the b-grade dmp vii's when they hit outlets.
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post #40 of 3702
thanks OP for not calling them raptors..

I'm glad they are releasing again, and I hope they look like the ones that dropped in 2002.. my pair is beyond beat but I still love them to death
post #41 of 3702
Ehhh... I Can Live With Out. Never Really Cared Too Much For This CW. JB Is Not On Games Next Year Tho.
post #42 of 3702
'02 like and I'll be happy smiley: pimpsmiley: pimp
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post #43 of 3702
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Pleaseeeeee be like the 2002 version I hated the ones in the pack because they had the gray I loved the all black ones!



I think u must be kidding. Because the 2002 black/reds Had the ugly shiny outsole toe tip like the frenchblues That came out together. And the cutting was too Much materials causing a deformed look when U have flat foot. The 2006 VII retros looked better in shape and The outsole toe tip were made full like on the Ogs. Also all 2002 retros had the new semi round laces, While all 2006 and recent retros have the original Flat laces. Also, the purple used on the 2002 retros was set way too bright.

He is not kidding because he compared the 2002 pair to the DMP 7 pack which came out in 2009. IMO, the ones in the pack were trash. The DMP 7's in the black/red/charcoal colorway were horrible, JB trying to make them look like the OG's that faded over time, that pack flopped IMO. They were on sale for less than $200 around my way which is Long Island, NY and I still did not consider copping. Please re-read the bolded part of his statement and you will know what he is talking about. 
post #44 of 3702
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Originally Posted by memphissfinest

WHAT THE HELL? JUST RELEASED 2 9 YEARS AGO.

WHERE ARE COLLEGE BLUE 17S, LIGHTNING 17S, NAVY BLUE 16S, OG 1'S, BLK/BLUE 1'S, CHROME 8'S, BLK/SILVER 2'S, ETC.

EITHER MODERN NOTERIETY OR JORDAN BRAND IS TROLLING US.

Fixed, had to do it bro. smiley: wink

I know what you are saying. The ones that came in the so-called DMP pack were not the same as the 02's. Other than that, I agree with the rest of your statement, I would like to see the 16's and 17's to retro. As for the black/chrome 8's, I missed out on release date back in 2003 (were sold out in my area) and I still kicking myself to this date because I did not want to pay $180.00 shortly after the release date and I should had.smiley: mad

post #45 of 3702
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Originally Posted by memphissfinest

WHAT THE HELL? JUST RELEASED 2 YEARS AGO.

WHERE ARE COLLEGE BLUE 17S, LIGHTNING 17S, NAVY BLUE 16S, OG 1'S, BLK/BLUE 1'S, CHROME 8'S, BLK/SILVER 2'S, ETC.

EITHER MODERN NOTERIETY OR JORDAN BRAND IS TROLLING US.


Those weren't even the same as the ones from 2002 IMO.  Different shoe to me. 

I agree with all the rest, we need some 17's badly. 



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post #46 of 3702
gotta agree, however, the '02 round laces were utter !$%%. the metal tips made them constantly go undone. replaced with flats years ago.
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post #47 of 3702
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And it begins ... the increased rate of retros dropping. You guys WILL see Aqua, Playoff and White/Red VIIIs again soon too. Maybe not next year, but DEFINITELY for 2013. Also, count on Grapes and Laneys for 2013 too, if not late next year.



It's funny tho, because not too long ago people were begging for more retros but now that JB has decided to somewhat open the flood gates it seems that it's not welcomed.

this is it right here. jb has decided we wannt the shoes so we are going to get them.
i personally dont welcome this at all. its too much. are they going to drop every semi-popular retro every 3,4 years now? they need to slow down
post #48 of 3702
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And it begins ... the increased rate of retros dropping. You guys WILL see Aqua, Playoff and White/Red VIIIs again soon too. Maybe not next year, but DEFINITELY for 2013. Also, count on Grapes and Laneys for 2013 too, if not late next year.



It's funny tho, because not too long ago people were begging for more retros but now that JB has decided to somewhat open the flood gates it seems that it's not welcomed.

this is it right here. jb has decided we wannt the shoes so we are going to get them.
i personally dont welcome this at all. its too much. are they going to drop every semi-popular retro every 3,4 years now? they need to slow down


who cares; you aren't exclusive and fashionable because there are less on the market...make them available readily 
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post #49 of 3702
Who cares that they came out recently I still wear my 02s from time to time and love them, the last pair to drop had gery any way I for one welcome whatever classics Jordan brand wants to throw our way
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post #50 of 3702
The DMP and CDP releases seem to throw a lot of people off on how widely or often a retro has truly appeared, especially in the case of shoes like the DMP XI or VII. No one is bitching about getting a true concord release are they? Seems like the same thing to me.

But are you serious JB?! 2012 has must have purchases for me EVERY month, if not every other week. I've got the money, but I never imagined they would release such a string of shoes... pretty much starting on Black Friday and continuing for an entire year. And for the record, 2011 has been pretty damn good too: WC3's, Playoff XIII's, Bordeauxs, Wolf Gray Vs, YOTR VII, TB3's, Cardinal VIIs, Banned 1's, BC3's, Last Shot XIVs, Concord XI's. I mean that's about a dozen solid releases right there, and it looks like there's going to be twice as many in 2012!!!

All of the 4's (White Cement, Black Cement, Military Blues, Fire Reds)
Most of the 12's (Taxis, Playoffs, Obsidians, Cool Greys)
X's (Chicagos and those new Royal Blue joints... probably more coming, hopefully STEEL)
Olympic VI's!
XI patent lows
XI Columbias
XIV White/Reds
VII Charcoals

I mean right there is 15 must haves for me, and we haven't even learned about any limited edition or quickstrikes that are surely going to be in the mix (BINs? DBs, some kind of pack?)
post #51 of 3702
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Pleaseeeeee be like the 2002 version I hated the ones in the pack because they had the gray I loved the all black ones!



I think u must be kidding. Because the 2002 black/reds Had the ugly shiny outsole toe tip like the frenchblues That came out together. And the cutting was too Much materials causing a deformed look when U have flat foot. The 2006 VII retros looked better in shape and The outsole toe tip were made full like on the Ogs. Also all 2002 retros had the new semi round laces, While all 2006 and recent retros have the original Flat laces. Also, the purple used on the 2002 retros was set way too bright.

He is not kidding because he compared the 2002 pair to the DMP 7 pack which came out in 2009. IMO, the ones in the pack were trash. The DMP 7's in the black/red/charcoal colorway were horrible, JB trying to make them look like the OG's that faded over time, that pack flopped IMO. They were on sale for less than $200 around my way which is Long Island, NY and I still did not consider copping. Please re-read the bolded part of his statement and you will know what he is talking about. 




Haha so true that pack was a flop. I live on LI too and I couldve gotten them for $200 at the smith haven mall in my size but I passed because I hated that shoe. Looking back I should've copped for th orlandos and flipped the raptors but oh we'll no biggie!
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post #52 of 3702
How will these sell? I couldn't move my pair and it constantly listed as way underprice. I decided to just keep them just because they look that good.
post #53 of 3702
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How will these sell? I couldn't move my pair and it constantly listed as way underprice. I decided to just keep them just because they look that good.

raptors sell slow and steady.

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post #54 of 3702
I would LOVE to see comparison shots of the OGs with the 2002s and the DMPs. Or at least the last 2 side by side...

Anyone?
post #55 of 3702
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Originally Posted by scoop99

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Originally Posted by jumpman cbt2

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Originally Posted by NyDunkhead

Pleaseeeeee be like the 2002 version I hated the ones in the pack because they had the gray I loved the all black ones!



I think u must be kidding. Because the 2002 black/reds Had the ugly shiny outsole toe tip like the frenchblues That came out together. And the cutting was too Much materials causing a deformed look when U have flat foot. The 2006 VII retros looked better in shape and The outsole toe tip were made full like on the Ogs. Also all 2002 retros had the new semi round laces, While all 2006 and recent retros have the original Flat laces. Also, the purple used on the 2002 retros was set way too bright.

He is not kidding because he compared the 2002 pair to the DMP 7 pack which came out in 2009. IMO, the ones in the pack were trash. The DMP 7's in the black/red/charcoal colorway were horrible, JB trying to make them look like the OG's that faded over time, that pack flopped IMO. They were on sale for less than $200 around my way which is Long Island, NY and I still did not consider copping. Please re-read the bolded part of his statement and you will know what he is talking about. 


Yeah, i know. I just wanted to hint that the 2002 were not on point at all too. The purple was much brighter than the purple on the OGs (rather like dark concord).
And i really disliked the shiny polished outsole tip at the toe because none of the OGs or 2006 retros had that.
The 2002 strangely had the new semi-round laces while all 2006 retros had the classic flat laces.
So i want the 2012 retro done better than the 2002. If the kind of craftmanship is same like the 2011 Cardinals and Bordeaux, i'm already very satisfied.

post #56 of 3702
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Originally Posted by trappedintime

The DMP and CDP releases seem to throw a lot of people off on how widely or often a retro has truly appeared, especially in the case of shoes like the DMP XI or VII. No one is bitching about getting a true concord release are they? Seems like the same thing to me.

But are you serious JB?! 2012 has must have purchases for me EVERY month, if not every other week. I've got the money, but I never imagined they would release such a string of shoes... pretty much starting on Black Friday and continuing for an entire year. And for the record, 2011 has been pretty damn good too: WC3's, Playoff XIII's, Bordeauxs, Wolf Gray Vs, YOTR VII, TB3's, Cardinal VIIs, Banned 1's, BC3's, Last Shot XIVs, Concord XI's. I mean that's about a dozen solid releases right there, and it looks like there's going to be twice as many in 2012!!!

All of the 4's (White Cement, Black Cement (CONFIRMED?), Military Blues, Fire Reds(CONFIRMED?))
Most of the 12's (Taxis, Playoffs, Obsidians, Cool Greys)
X's (Chicagos and those new Royal Blue joints... probably more coming, hopefully STEEL)
Olympic VI's! (PASS UNLESS LEATHER AND TRUE TO LAST RETRO)
XI patent lows (GARBAGE)
XI Columbias
XIV White/Reds
VII Charcoals

I mean right there is 15 must haves for me, and we haven't even learned about any limited edition or quickstrikes that are surely going to be in the mix (BINs? DBs, some kind of pack?) (COPPED ONLY FOR RE-SELL)

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post #57 of 3702
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I think u must be kidding. Because the 2002 black/reds Had the ugly shiny outsole toe tip like the frenchblues That came out together. And the cutting was too Much materials causing a deformed look when U have flat foot. The 2006 VII retros looked better in shape and The outsole toe tip were made full like on the Ogs. Also all 2002 retros had the new semi round laces, While all 2006 and recent retros have the original Flat laces. Also, the purple used on the 2002 retros was set way too bright.

He is not kidding because he compared the 2002 pair to the DMP 7 pack which came out in 2009. IMO, the ones in the pack were trash. The DMP 7's in the black/red/charcoal colorway were horrible, JB trying to make them look like the OG's that faded over time, that pack flopped IMO. They were on sale for less than $200 around my way which is Long Island, NY and I still did not consider copping. Please re-read the bolded part of his statement and you will know what he is talking about. 


Yeah, i know. I just wanted to hint that the 2002 were not on point at all too. The purple was much brighter than the purple on the OGs (rather like dark concord).
And i really disliked the shiny polished outsole tip at the toe because none of the OGs or 2006 retros had that.
The 2002 strangely had the new semi-round laces while all 2006 retros had the classic flat laces.
So i want the 2012 retro done better than the 2002. If the kind of craftmanship is same like the 2011 Cardinals and Bordeaux, i'm already very satisfied.


My bad, I did not mean to come at you in that manner. For all this time I did not even noticed how different the laces of the OG's, 2002, 2006 and 2011 pairs are until you mentioned. I need to compare my 2002 Black/Red/Charcoals, 2006 Cardinals and 2011 Bordeaux this for myself.smiley: nerd 
post #58 of 3702
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WHAT THE HELL? JUST RELEASED 2 YEARS AGO.

WHERE ARE COLLEGE BLUE 17S, LIGHTNING 17S, NAVY BLUE 16S, OG 1'S, BLK/BLUE 1'S, CHROME 8'S, BLK/SILVER 2'S, ETC.

EITHER MODERN NOTERIETY OR JORDAN BRAND IS TROLLING US.


Those weren't even the same as the ones from 2002 IMO.  Different shoe to me. 

I agree with all the rest, we need some 17's badly. 






WE NEED 17'S

From a manufacturing point of view, it is highly possible that the XVI onwards cost too much to retro. Whereas Vs, VIIs and XIIs might be on the lower end that's why they come out every year and a half.

The XVIIs in the CDP were terrible and they had a 'Peel Off' sticker when the part being protected was just regular plastic (non-chrome) unlike the OGs. Might be better off to skip on some retros and save up for OG XVIIs. 

  
post #59 of 3702
Have my '02's going strong bfe15f69a6b6fa20a2956815c5e1a03ffcddf92.gif

Wonder how these will turn out though... nerd.gif
post #60 of 3702
Too much heat dropping in 2012 might have to pass on these unfortunately
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