Official 2012 Boxing Thread: JMM/Manny IV - FOTY.

Canelo/Mosley and May/Cotto is a pretty solid PPV if you ask me.
Pac/Timmy Im not sold on yet and probably will just watch it in a bar or a friends house.
 
Originally Posted by Scott Frost

How can neither Showtime nor HBO be interested in Bute v. Froch? What am I missing here? Snoozefests like Hopkins v. Dawson II get greenlit though
I believe Bute signed a 3-4 fight deal with Showtime and he has one fight remaining.  Of course the reason the signed him was in hopes that he'd fight the winner of the Super Six before jumping ship to HBO.  Maybe they're just trying to bypass his next fight in hopes the one after that will be Ward.  They specifically said they want Bute to fight an American but I'm not sure outside of Ward who that would be other than Dirrell and I'm not sure that does better ratings than a Froch fight. 
 
Originally Posted by Marvin Hagler

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Canelo vs Mosley on the undercard for the mayweather fight

Peter Quillin vs Winky Wright also in play.


   3 good fights
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  Quillin got this though
 
Weekend wrapup.

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Saturday at Los Mochis, Mexico

Juan Carlos Sanchez Jr. W12 Rodrigo Guerrero
Junior bantamweight
Wins a junior bantamweight title
Scores: 119-109, 116-112, 115-113
Records: Sanchez Jr. (13-1-1, 7 KOs); Guerrero (16-4-1, 10 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: In October, Guerrero, 24, of Mexico, scored an upset sixth-round technical decision to claim a vacant title against Raul Martinez in their rematch. Guerrero did not hold onto the belt for long as he lost it in his first defense on a competitive but clear decision to 21-year-old Sanchez, who won the title in front of his hometown fans. The 119-109 scorecard was an abomination. This was a much closer fight that that, but at least the right guy got the decision. Sanchez, a southpaw, was on his game. He landed a ton of left hands during the entertaining bout. But by the final round, Guerrero's swelling face was showing the signs of a tough fight. For Sanchez, he was taking a major step up in competition after facing extremely limited opposition since turning pro in December 2008. He won his sixth consecutive fight since going 0-1-1 in back-to-back bouts in late 2009 and early 2010.



Friday at Mar del Plata, Argentina

Johnriel Casimero TKO10 Luis Lazarte
Junior flyweight
Wins a vacant interim junior flyweight title
Records: Casimero (16-2, 10 KOs); Lazarte (49-11-2, 18 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: There are so many bogus interim titles floating around these days because the sanctioning organizations just hand them out like flyers on a New York street corner. But the IBF is the one organization that uses them only in rare and legitimate circumstances. In this case, Ulises "Archie" Solis, the IBF's 108-pound titleholder, is sidelined with injuries for several months, so it sanctioned an interim title as per its rules. Unfortunately, however, it allowed Lazarte, the 40-year-old from Argentina who instigated two brutally dirty title fights with Solis (a gift draw and a legitimate decision loss), to participate against Casimero, 21, of the Philippines. Even before this disaster, Lazarte should not have been allowed near another title fight after the way he conducted himself against Solis.

The fight with Casimero was a disgrace to boxing as supposed fans -- hoodlums, really -- in Argentina rioted at ringside after the fight was stopped in the most appalling scene the sport has seen since the riot at New York's Madison Square Garden that followed the ending of the first Riddick Bowe-Andrew Golota fight in 1996.

Lazarte is the dirtiest fighter in boxing, which he displayed in both fights he had with Solis and again in this fight with Casimero, who has now won two fights in a row after dropping back-to-back fights (an interim junior flyweight title bout to Ramon Garcia by split decision in July 2010 followed by a fifth-round knockout loss in South Africa to flyweight titlist Moruti Mthalane in March 2011).

Lazarte uses his head intentionally, rabbit punches, hits low, mixes in some elbows and even bites, which he twice blatantly did against Casimero. Lazarte should simply be banned from boxing for his constant disregard for the rules. He started fighting dirty right away, holding Casimero behind the neck and using his head. Casimero, however, just kept swinging and damaged him around his left eye in the first round. Referee Eddie Claudio, who had a very busy fight, warned Lazarte for using his head early in the second round. In the third round, Lazarte hit Casimero on the break and knocked him down, which did not count because it was a foul. Claudio once again gave a hard warning for the dirty fighting. Claudio continued to try to maintain control, warning Casimero for holding in the fourth round and Lazarte for hitting behind the head. Late in the fourth round, they were fighting on the inside (and Lazarte was punching low) when they got tangled up, forcing them to fall to the mat, where Casimero appeared to kick to get away from Lazarte, who was hanging on to his legs. Claudio docked a point from Casimero for the foul, even though it was Lazarte who instigated the situation.

In the sixth round, Claudio finally docked a point from Lazarte for blatant punches behind the head. When Claudio took the point, Lazarte took out his mouthpiece and can clearly be heard (in comments translated from Spanish on the TyC broadcast) saying to Claudio, "Do you want to make it out of here alive?" Also in the sixth round, Lazarte clearly bit Casimero on the shoulder during a clinch, although Claudio did not see it.

In the eighth round, Casimero was answering Lazarte's shots behind the head when Claudio docked him another point for the foul. And at the end of the round, Lazarte again bit Casimero on the shoulder!

In the ninth round, Lazarte looked like he put on a nice acting job to get Claudio to give him time to recover from a supposed shot below the belt. Later in the round, Casimero dropped a fading Lazarte with a series of right hands. He was unsteady when he got to his feet and Casimero dropped him for a second time to all fours with another volley of blows as Lazarte had desperately tried to hang on to him. Lazarte looked dead on his feet when he got up and was lucky the bell sounded to end the round. But early in the 10th round, Lazarte was still desperately trying to hold as Casimero pounded him along the ropes. Debris from the crowd began to fly into the ring as Claudio stepped in to stop the fight as Lazarte was falling over. A few seconds later chaos erupted as more debris came flying into the ring as did numerous ringside chairs. It looked like an episode of WWE "Smackdown" and was one of the most disturbing scenes you will ever see. One spectator began to swing at Casimero. It was a full on riot and a complete mess as bottles and chairs were hitting people in the ring. One of Casimero's corner men, Sean Gibbons, suffered a broken rib. Claudio needed stitches in his lip. Others were dropping like flies as they were hit with chairs. There was a complete lack of ringside security. In fact, it looked like one of the security guards threw a punch at Casimero during the mayhem, which included spectators fighting each other at ringside. Lazarte is a dirty fighter and his so-called fans are even worse. This was simply shameful.



Friday at Uncasville, Conn.

Demetrius Andrade KO2 Angel Hernandez
Junior middleweight
Records: Andrade (16-0, 11 KOs); Hernandez (30-11, 17 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Andrade, 23, a southpaw from Providence, R.I., is one of the top prospects in boxing. He is a former world amateur champion and was a 2008 U.S. Olympian. As a professional, he has essentially grown up on ESPN2's "Friday Night Fights." This was another of his fights on the series. He was supposed to face Derek "Pooh" Ennis, but Ennis pulled out on Tuesday, citing a high fever. He was replaced later that day with Terrance Cauthen, an experienced 1996 U.S. Olympic bronze medalist near the end of his career. Then Cauthen quickly bailed
 
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 he slapped the dog $%%$ outta of him!
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what weight is that gamboa-rios fight?  i would pay ppv money to see a rios-marquez fight @ 140.     
 
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at Vitali getting slapped.

I think the Gamboa/Rios is at 135 Rios struggles to make weight.

I like Gamboa in that fight I'm in the minority as a lot of people are picking Rios.
 
Originally Posted by boogie bwoy

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what weight is that gamboa-rios fight?  i would pay ppv money to see a rios-marquez fight @ 140.     
Gamboa-Rios is at 135.
Word is Rios is lighter than Juanma (supposedly).

So him and his nutritionist are definitely clicking. (If true)
 
Originally Posted by MFr3shM

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at Vitali getting slapped.

I think the Gamboa/Rios is at 135 Rios struggles to make weight.

I like Gamboa in that fight I'm in the minority as a lot of people are picking Rios.
I also have Gamboa (10th round TKO)
And most people are picking Rios because Gamboa is moving up 2 weight classes, and most are unsure if he can retain his speed and power.
 
Originally Posted by Marvin Hagler

Originally Posted by boogie bwoy

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what weight is that gamboa-rios fight?  i would pay ppv money to see a rios-marquez fight @ 140.     
Gamboa-Rios is at 135.
Word is Rios is lighter than Juanma (supposedly).

So him and his nutritionist are definitely clicking. (If true)
he's not lighter than him
he has less weight to lose than him
 
Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by Marvin Hagler

Originally Posted by boogie bwoy

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what weight is that gamboa-rios fight?  i would pay ppv money to see a rios-marquez fight @ 140.     
Gamboa-Rios is at 135.
Word is Rios is lighter than Juanma (supposedly).

So him and his nutritionist are definitely clicking. (If true)
he's not lighter than him
he has less weight to lose than him
Just going by what I hear.
The word is Rios is lighter than Juanma RIGHT NOW.
 
Friday Night Fights is going to be real good tonight. Both Mike Dallas and Miguel Gonzalez are real good prospects. I remember seeing them fight in quite a few National Tournaments trying to make the 2008 Olympic team and they either won them or finished near the top. I think Miguel is going to win though. I remember a while back me and him fought in a small pro card in South Carolina and he looked impressive and he is a cool guy. 
 
Originally Posted by boogie bwoy

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what weight is that gamboa-rios fight?  i would pay ppv money to see a rios-marquez fight @ 140.     

He's going to beat the piss out of Chisora
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I've heard the same about Rios, he's in tip top shape with this new nutritionist he's using.  Have you guys seen those little 15 minute clips that showed him not eating at all for about 4 days?  Crazy.  Hard fight to pick.  Have no idea what Gamboa will look like jumping two weight classes.
 
Originally Posted by Dok

Friday Night Fights is going to be real good tonight. Both Mike Dallas and Miguel Gonzalez are real good prospects. I remember seeing them fight in quite a few National Tournaments trying to make the 2008 Olympic team and they either won them or finished near the top. I think Miguel is going to win though. I remember a while back me and him fought in a small pro card in South Carolina and he looked impressive and he is a cool guy. 

Nice, do you still box?
Picks;
Vitali
Arreola
Williams
Cano
Arce
 
Honestly, I think that slap was staged...Vitali doesn't generate that much viewership in his fights & I think this was done in an effort to get people to watch what should otherwise be a dull fight...It's a sad state of affairs in boxing when he's had the title for so long. He'll be able to collect on his 401k & other retirement benifits shortly...
 
Originally Posted by psk2310

Honestly, I think that slap was staged...Vitali doesn't generate that much viewership in his fights & I think this was done in an effort to get people to watch what should otherwise be a dull fight...It's a sad state of affairs in boxing when he's had the title for so long. He'll be able to collect on his 401k & other retirement benifits shortly...
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Vitali would have held a belt during any HW era.  He gets a ton of viewers/money/fans outside of the US.  Him and his brother pack soccer stadiums with fans.  Hell, even his last couple HW fights on HBO have drawn good numbers.

But boxing has been dying for a decade now so maybe you're right.
 
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