Houston Texans Pre-Season 2014 - NT Bowl 2.5...Battle For Roster Spots

none of the QB ish matters if your line isn't blocking. same with this highly paid RB we have back there. starts in the trenches, so we should draft in the trenches.

I would understand yall more if this was the 2012 draft. it's just not making any sense to me how adamant people are on drafting these POTENTIALLY marginal QBs so high. Wasting a #1 pick opportunity to roll the dice
Aaron Rodgers is pretty good with a horrendous offensive line. 

Teams don't usually get multiple shots to select a potential franchise quarterback, that's why it is worth "rolling the dice". With how rookie contracts are now, it is much less of a gamble than before. With our QB situation, we're going to bad regardless if we throw a QB out there that is already on the roster. 

It sucks that there isn't a clear cut number 1 picker. The Astros have been screwed with the same thing. The nationals have two number picks and ended up with two phenoms in Harper and Strasburg, while the Astros ended up Correa and Appel. It just an unfortunate luck of the draw. 
 
There are no doubt going to be some cap casualties. it is going to be pretty interesting to see who they let go.  
 
At this point I wanna see how the team approaches free agency before I say how I think they should draft.

can we even do anything? i expect schaub, daniels, manning, and smith to be cap casualties if the hit isn't too bad, but we can't afford to pay those guys
 
can we even do anything? i expect schaub, daniels, manning, and smith to be cap casualties if the hit isn't too bad, but we can't afford to pay those guys
On the surface it seems that way but there are ways to work around it. If we target a few guys in FA and they want to come here we will sign them. Our money situation was more crappy last year and we still managed to sign a Ed Reed :smh: same with Baltimore who got Dumervil despite gutting their team to sign Flacco.

It can be done.
 
I understand the Johnny talk, but nationally, how exactly did Bortles leapfrog Bridgewater in the conversation? What happened between the end of the NFL regular season til right now that has Bortles and Manziel as the top two QBs taken, and Bridgewater bringing up the rear at like #10?? They mentioned that on the radio, but I had noticed that myself as well. It's weird :lol:
 
Because BOB worked under his college coach George Oleary. Some feel if Oleary gives him good reviews BOB might be tempted.

Plus Bortles physical traits & size are prototypical even though Bridgewater is 6'2 220 and considered small (for reasons idk).
 
I understand the Johnny talk, but nationally, how exactly did Bortles leapfrog Bridgewater in the conversation? What happened between the end of the NFL regular season til right now that has Bortles and Manziel as the top two QBs taken, and Bridgewater bringing up the rear at like #10?? They mentioned that on the radio, but I had noticed that myself as well. It's weird :lol:

Bridewater didn't play top flight competion all year and didn't have a "signature" performance against a top team (Miami doesn't count). Had this been last year after they demolished Florida...Bortles wouldn't even be in the conversation with him and Manziel. Bortles didn't exactly play in the SEC either but he's the new hot name on the scene. Unfair but, that's the way it is.

P.S. - Wade...wants Johnny Football

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10418263/wade-phillips-endorsed-johnny-manziel-houston-texans

I'll never understand this "hometown" kid love. Home state in the case of Manziel. Yeah that'll sell some jerseys before the season but if dude can't play somebody's gettin' fired. I just don't get how folks who are 2 seconds away from getting canned at any moment let that even factor in their decision making.
 
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Well if you're going to use last year as the measuring stick then Manziel didn't have a "signature" performance either.
 
manziel's games against bama, ole miss, missouri last year, duke, la tech were all amazing games off the top of my head
 
anyone know when they will have texans gear for sale? :lol:

I racked up Texans gear at Champs heading into Christmas. Everything was 50-80% off. I got nothing but Watt, Andre and general Texans gear cause you never know who will be traded in every Houston sport.

Also, I've seen multiple Manziel games and have been impressed. 2 Teddy games and liked what I saw, and 1 Bortles game. This pot pie tastes good.
 
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60 inch Texans scarf :pimp: was in a lounge repping tough before our playoff game with the Patroits last year. :lol:

I already had a ton of shirts but when the league switched over to Nike I started going overboard. :lol: Never been a jersey guy so no jerseys.
 
Don't know how much of the 2013 LSU loss I hold against Johnny. Not only was the defense Philly cheesesteak, but LSU's DB's gave Evans the Seahawks treatment. Chavis threw out lengthy, speedy, rangy, young DB's.

Not to mention Jake Matthews got abused by LSU's edge rushers.
 
Well don't you think nfl teams will do that to him as well? A lot of people like to point to his game against Alabama but he was able to carve them up because they don't rush the passer as well as LSU & Mizzou could.
 
Well don't you think nfl teams will do that to him as well? A lot of people like to point to his game against Alabama but he was able to carve them up because they don't rush the passer as well as LSU & Mizzou could.
You anti-Manziel?

I'm in the middle, FTR.
 
Nah just bringing a different perspective to the thread, I enjoy the different views. I know the majority is pro Manziel I think me & sole searching are the only ones pro Bridgewater.
I say trade back. Create a bidding war for the top pick whether it be Clowney, Bridge, Money, or Bortles.
 
Hopefully Smith and McNair read this article:

Seahawks 101: A survey class the Texans must pass

Seattle coach Pete Carroll's willingness to gamble left him holding the Vince Lombardi Trophy last week.

By Jerome Solomon
February 8, 2014 | Updated: February 8, 2014 10:47pm

The argument that teams should try to follow the Seattle Seahawks' lead in how to build a team - after all, their method resulted in a resounding Super Bowl victory last week - is specious at best.

A copycat lifestyle usually leads to a futile existence.

When people describe the NFL as a copycat league, they are talking about the borrowing of successful patterns, styles and schemes.

The better organizations, the top coaches, don't spend much time trying to do what other teams are doing, because what they do works. Good coaches are open to innovative ideas and not afraid to tweak, but typically they are the ones being copied.

Still, a team like the Texans, who are in the midst of a cultural transformation with new coach Bill O'Brien, could learn a thing or two from the Seahawks.

NFL observers believe Seattle's roster makeup could influence the NFL draft in coming years.

Defensive backs, especially cornerbacks, with size will draw more attention in the draft now that Seattle has had such success with a crew that boasted four corners who stand 6 feet and taller and a hard-hitting strong safety at 6-3.

And along those lines, Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel's stock went up a bit because the Seahawks' Russell Wilson proved mobile, athletic quarterbacks, even short ones, can win big.

If you look at how Seattle operates and how the Texans have been mismanaged of late, three things stand out. (Well, four, counting luck, of which the Seahawks have had plenty and the Texans little. But no man controls fate.)

For one, the Seahawks, thanks mostly to coach Pete Carroll, aren't afraid of playing inexperienced players. The best players play, period.

Secondly, Carroll isn't married to scheme. He looks to take advantage of what a player does best and finds ways to use it.

Thirdly, the Seahawks don't waste a lot of time hoping a player figures it out. In poker parlance, Seattle takes chances to see the flop but will quickly fold if they miss. The Texans keep calling until the river.

Seattle entered the season as the fourth-youngest team in the NFL and according to ProFootballReference.com finished it as the youngest team to win a Super Bowl.

It is a philosophy Carroll didn't accept until he was the coach at USC and had so much success with talented freshmen and sophomores contributing.

"When you are a coach, you don't like playing the young guys," Carroll told the Dallas Morning News before the Super Bowl. "When you're the GM, you want to see all of the young guys. When you are a GM and a coach - in essence what you are in college - I made the choice to go with young guys.

"We developed a whole approach and philosophy about how that worked out for us, and it paid off in a tremendous way."

Kubiak used veterans

Former Texans coach Gary Kubiak faced regular criticism for his reluctance to play rookies and second-year players. He regularly lamented how difficult it is for young players to adjust to the NFL. He simply didn't trust them.

O'Brien has spent the majority of his career coaching at the college level. He joins the Texans after two years at Penn State, where he started freshman Christian Hackenberg at quarterback last season.

Expect the Texans to lean more toward the Seattle way than the old Texans way.

Adaptability has become a key word at Reliant Park.

As is the case with the Seahawks, O'Brien believes in more of a build-a-hole-to-fit-the-peg plan with the Bill Belichick approach of finding what a player does best and demanding he do that. The ability to focus on what a player can do as opposed to what he can't is a unique skill.

Finally, while the Seahawks deserve kudos for player development and for finding good players in the late rounds of the draft - in 2011 the Texans drafted three pedestrian defensive backs before Seattle picked Richard Sherman, who is considered by most to be the league's best cornerback, in the fifth round - their willingness to cut losses is impressive.

Quicker trigger

It isn't that Carroll and general manager John Schneider, who joined forces in the Pacific Northwest in 2010, haven't made draft mistakes. They just don't sit around hoping the mistakes self-correct.

Under general manager Rick Smith and Kubiak, the Texans believed in a "keep hope alive" methodology.

Prior to this season, the Seahawks cut rookie receiver Chris Harper, a fourth-rounder, making him the second-highest draft pick to not make a roster. In each of the previous two years, they cut a fifth-round pick at the end of training camp.

They drafted receiver Kris Durham 107th overall in 2011 and defensive lineman Jaye Howard 114th overall in 2012, and neither fourth-round choice made the team in his second season.

The Texans took a lot of criticism when they released third-round pick defensive end Sam Montgomery at midseason, but he lasted about as long as E.J. Wilson, the Seahawks' fourth-round pick in 2010. Gotta go, gotta go.

Before Montgomery was sent packing for disciplinary reasons, safety Brandon Harrison (fifth round, 144th overall in 2007) was the only player Smith and Kubiak picked in the first five rounds who didn't last at least three seasons.

Feel the draft

And Harrison wasn't let go until the final cut of his third year.

If you think the Texans have drafted that well, you probably mistakenly wore Texans gear to the Seahawks' Super Bowl parade.

Or your name is Rick Smith or Gary Kubiak
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