OFFICIAL COMIC BOOK THREAD

[7th Chamber]

Does anyone here collect or own any Absolute Editions from DC? They seem pretty awesome, but pricey.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

The Vision this month. My goodness.

 

[Master Zik]

Picked up Superwoman and Deathstroke Rebirth (cuz of Preist) as far as new things along with All-star Batman and Detective Comics for my DC pickups.

Superwoman was good but kind of a bait and switch I do like Lana though.

Deathstroke was okay.

ASB was good. I'll see where Snyder is going with this Duke and Two-Face stories.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

They need to get Priest back on BP.

 

[Grine]

Comic Life is serious...

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

Lobdell's Superman was buns.

Some dude on the Comic Vine forum posted his own video review of one of Lobdell's runs and Lobdell himself got in his feels and posted about how the OP needed to use a bar of soap

 

[seandon23]

the rebirth issue for red hood was pretty good surprisingly imo lol hopefully he can deliver

 

[nomnom]

Anyone read Batman: The Long Halloween? What are your opinions?

Just finished

The Killing Joke

Death in the Family

Year One

Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth

Batman comics are the best 

 

[jays25]

I mean, dondelgado isn't wrong Lobdell's had 2 runs on Red Hood before this one and both have had sales steadily declining, with fans raging about how bad they were. Series under him has been having issues from the jump, constantly making bad creative decisions. The comparison between Lobdell and Snyder is a good one, because the 2 are like night and day in terms of how well received and critically acclaimed their respective runs were.

I agree though, the first issue of Red Hood Rebirth was good and has me being optimistic about the series for the first time in a good while. Just don't k ow that Bizarro and Artemis will work out.

 

[seandon23]

I mean, dondelgado isn't wrong

Lobdell's had 2 runs on Red Hood before this one and both have had sales steadily declining, with fans raging about how bad they were. Series under him has been having issues from the jump, constantly making bad creative decisions. The comparison between Lobdell and Snyder is a good one, because the 2 are like night and day in terms of how well received and critically acclaimed their respective runs were.

I agree though, the first issue of Red Hood Rebirth was good and has me being optimistic about the series for the first time in a good while. Just don't k ow that Bizarro and Artemis will work out.

agreed after reading the rebirth issue red hood would be perfectly fine on his own unless he makes bizarro and artemis interesting enough for them to be worth reading about

 

[Grine]

Yo, MoonKnight is dope. 

Need them to drop a trade.

 

[ronaldcinho]

Yeah I'd honestly prefer red hood by himself minus the outlaws lol, kinda feels forced IMO.

 

[Master Zik]

Lobdell fell off in the mid 2000s. The key way to tell this other than the **** writing is that these creators are never sought after by the competition and eventually when they outstay their welcome they fade in to Bolovia

There's a grip of writers (and an editor or 2) at DC who were all prominent in the 90s for Marvel that are languishing at DC now. The only explanantion is they got ppl higher up keeping them around *cough*Lee*cough*Harras*cough*

Also, yeah the comic business/feedback/fan backlash is serious. And I know this is just a sensitive creator reacting to somebody who dislikes his work but I was expecting creator vs. creator beef Cuz a lot of those dudes came up together on comic forums and if they ain't all tight it can get pretty quick.

They need to get Priest back on BP.

Coates is doing his thing currently and is flourishing.

BP #5 today

 

[seandon23]

you been liking the new BP Zik? I'm liking it so far although after the first issue it feel like it slowed down a bit but the last issue brought my hopes back up and hopefully Coates is able to flourish on that book

 

[Master Zik]

I'm digging it. Its clear Coates wants to get a lot done.

I actually like that he's made it so Wakanda is not this perfect flawless society and T'Challa isn't this leader with the quick fix. He's mirroring actual African nations heavily in one way.

There's a spin-off book called World of Wakanda so I don't expect the pacing to remain at this rate going for much longer.

 

[jays25]

I mean, dondelgado isn't wrong Lobdell's had 2 runs on Red Hood before this one and both have had sales steadily declining, with fans raging about how bad they were. Series under him has been having issues from the jump, constantly making bad creative decisions. The comparison between Lobdell and Snyder is a good one, because the 2 are like night and day in terms of how well received and critically acclaimed their respective runs were.


I agree though, the first issue of Red Hood Rebirth was good and has me being optimistic about the series for the first time in a good while. Just don't k ow that Bizarro and Artemis will work out.

agreed after reading the rebirth issue red hood would be perfectly fine on his own unless he makes bizarro and artemis interesting enough for them to be worth reading about

Been saying for the longest that there's no reason Red Hood has to be paired with other characters like Starfire and Bizarro. Dude could just have his own series and be fine. Like Batman and Nightwing. All of these characters don't even fit together

I'm digging it. Its clear Coates wants to get a lot done.

I actually like that he's made it so Wakanda is not this perfect flawless society and T'Challa isn't thos leader with the quick fix. He's mirroring actual African nations heavily in one way.

There's a spin-off book called World of Wakanda so I don't expect the pacing to remain at this rate going for much longer.

That's the same thing I'm liking about current Black Panther too. A lot of times in the past they're this isolated group that kind of act better than the rest of the world and never get called on it. This run is showing they have a ton of issues and is asking really good questions too. One of my favorite series from Marvel at the moment.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

I hated when the last BP run casually dropped that Wakanda had the cure for cancer that run was so damn ham-fisted with how perfect Wakanda was

 

[Master Zik]

I think DC is reluctant to make Red Hood their version of the Punisher especially more so than Marvel's Punisher cuz Jason has to be gunning for all of the named villains whether he stays in Gotham or not.

He was a victim of an A-list villain, came back an adopted that they should be put down mentality. He can't be killing your common rapist, drug dealer, gangster. He gotta be aiming for the Cobblepots and Black Masks. That's why I think he doesn't have a solo (along with DC probably wanting to keep the outlaws trademark or else marvel might use it again).

I read some of the New52 RH&TO and didn't like it so I don't know how much he's changed his outlook or if he's been redeemed and ain't killing no more.

I hated when the last BP run casually dropped that Wakanda had the cure for cancer that run was so damn ham-fisted with how perfect Wakanda was

The Huddlin run. It had a purpose Doom later had the cure and turned in to a weapon.

He turned the cure for cancer in to a weapon.

It was brought up in Doomwar I believe where he was trying to raid Wakanda for its vibranium.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

They need to get Priest back on BP.

Coates is doing his thing currently and is flourishing.

BP #5 today

I was down to support a new black writer on a black hero, but the series is so dull. It's mostly exposition, which is okay for a couple issues, but it's beginning to wear on me. I don't feel like Coates knows BP that well either. T'Challa is one of the most intelligent, aware, and battle ready dudes in the MU and he's getting tripped up by nobodies. Plus he seems like a dimwit when it comes to the king responsibilities.

The first arc didn't really have any pay-off. It kind of just fizzled. T'Challa himself is like a side character in an anthology, because the separate moving parts of the story that are clearly supposed to connect, barely do. And it feels like he's barely in his own comic. I like the art though.

I know Coates has no experience with comics. Maybe his next arc will get better. I'm really just buying it to support a black writer and black character, but I'll probably drop this series soon if it's more of the same.

 

[Master Zik]

To me Coates is picking up from that narrative of Hickman's T'Challa in New Avengers. Seems like a direct follow up from Time Runs Out.

BP is up to the task but he will take Ls before we build up to victory.

I'm willing to give Coates slack on how he manages focus and space for character. I find the new stories and subplots interesting so it doesn't bother me as much.

 

[jays25]

I hated when the last BP run casually dropped that Wakanda had the cure for cancer that run was so damn ham-fisted with how perfect Wakanda was

That really was one of he worst things I've ever read in a comic book Made the character sound like a jackass.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

I was down to support a new black writer on a black hero, but the series is so dull. It's mostly exposition, which is okay for a couple issues, but it's beginning to wear on me. I don't feel like Coates knows BP that well either. T'Challa is one of the most intelligent, aware, and battle ready dudes in the MU and he's getting tripped up by nobodies. Plus he seems like a dimwit when it comes to the king responsibilities.

The first arc didn't really have any pay-off. It kind of just fizzled. T'Challa himself is like a side character in an anthology, because the separate moving parts of the story that are clearly supposed to connect, barely do. And it feels like he's barely in his own comic. I like the art though.

I know Coates has no experience with comics. Maybe his next arc will get better. I'm really just buying it to support a black writer and black character, but I'll probably drop this series soon if it's more of the same.

Nah **** that. For years we been spoon fed this "Wakanda and T'Challa are the most perfect things ever" nonsense, I'm glad to see BP finally take some damn Ls.

It's like writers got so wrapped up on crafting some perfect idealized African nation but don't realize that due to the relative instability of the region the place is bound to come across its fair share of local troubles no matter how scientifically and culturally advanced they are.

Also Wakanda is a kingdom and T'Challa is a king right? Then let's finally get that sprawling fantasy African epic I been pining for for years as opposed to some basic superhero serialization. I don't care if BP isn't in these first 5 issues all that much. This will have a clear beginning and end, and by the end of it we will be glad to have known all these characters and stories. I fell in love with this run from issue 1

I would love to write a BP run myself

 

[seandon23]

Nah **** that. For years we been spoon fed this "Wakanda and T'Challa are the most perfect things ever" nonsense, I'm glad to see BP finally take some damn Ls.

It's like writers got so wrapped up on crafting some perfect idealized African nation but don't realize that due to the relative instability of the region the place is bound to come across its fair share of local troubles no matter how scientifically and culturally advanced they are.

Also Wakanda is a kingdom and T'Challa is a king right? Then let's finally get that sprawling fantasy African epic I been pining for for years as opposed to some basic superhero serialization. I don't care if BP isn't in these first 5 issues all that much. This will have a clear beginning and end, and by the end of it we will be glad to have known all these characters and stories. I fell in love with this run from issue 1

I would love to write a BP run myself

let m be the artist on your run papi

 

[Fresh Like Will]

If it were a Wakanda comic or Ayo and Aneka comic, sure. I don't mind those aspects. T'Challa is T'Challa though. You can't be that adept of a warrior and have heightened senses to his capacity and constantly get made a fool of. It's like ignoring Peter's Spidey Sense. Spider-man could be halfway through his 10th wise crack and if they try to blindside him, he'll still react, even if he's not focused on it. BP shouldn't be tripped up in no weak ambush. Cap: Civil War portrayed T'Challa better than this current run did.

I'm not really enjoying reading it in general either. It's mostly heavy exposition and cryptic metaphors. At some point you gotta have a story do something to reward the reader's patience.

 

[KingdomFlatbush]

If it were a Wakanda comic or Ayo and Aneka comic, sure. I don't mind those aspects. T'Challa is T'Challa though. You can't be that adept of a warrior and have heightened senses to his capacity and constantly get made a fool of. It's like ignoring Peter's Spidey Sense. Spider-man could be halfway through his 10th wise crack and if they try to blindside him, he'll still react, even if he's not focused on it. BP shouldn't be tripped up in no weak ambush. Cap: Civil War portrayed T'Challa better than this current run did.

I'm not really enjoying reading it in general either. It's mostly heavy exposition and cryptic metaphors. At some point you gotta have a story do something to reward the reader's patience.

Maybe wait for the trades b. If the story ain't coming together in the next couple months then I can't fault you for not liking.

let m be the artist on your run papi

Let me see your art papi

Maybe we can collab on some other ****