Is this the "Bubble" of Nikes right now??

Originally Posted by ninjahood

it was all about da latest and greatest back then...if you had on old jordans back then, you were clowned on
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THIS!

but how that shift came into being is through sneakers & so called "sneakerheads" wanting & getting more shine, then spreading to the masses...and as someone who designs sneakers for a living, it is most depressing how outdated retro sneakers are CONSISTENTLY upheld as being better that the new stuff...

Originally Posted by KMante

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

illphillip wrote:
What I marvel at is the THIRST for Jordans from a generation that has absolutely no connection to the man or ever saw him play.

Right now he's just a guy who can't dress who owns the worst franchise in the NBA.

For me buying retro J's was nostalgic. I had some of them the first time around or the 1st time they'd retro.

Amazing what JB has done to keep themselves so relevant with their retro models today.

Indeed the product of smart marketing. That and a generation that seems so celebrity obsessed that if Kanye wears it, they NEED it.

When in doubt, blame the internet. HA!
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Well said.

It's the late 90's babies fam....born with no originality..
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i used to think similarly but jordans are more than "just" basketball sneakers at this point, the connection goes beyond basketball. that they have never seen MJ lace them up is of little consequence, because they have grown a relationship with the sneakers themselves during their adolescence; the shoe are symbolic & have been a status symbol for nearly all of their lives. to a lesser extent the same is true of other non-jordan retro models...the sneakers have history and exist in a context beyond the man & the sport...

despite all hyperbole to the contrary, things haven't really changed all that much, true the interconnected networks of the web have made it easier find out what other people (celebrities & shoelebrities alike) in other places are wearing/think is cool; you could not really do this 10-15 years ago unless you traveled a lot or went to concerts. not really sure how different that is from how things operate in individual neighborhoods, where you would emulate those around who you thought were cool (or what athletes wore), the "neighborhood" is just bigger. in that respect i am inclined to agree with sillyputty that the tone of this thread is really one part saltiness (all these hypebeast are making it harder for me to get what i want!) and another part nostalgic "it was better in my day" revisionism...
 
Originally Posted by megatron

I always sort of wanted the whole sneaker thing to get more exposure and recognition among people, like my friends, that didn't really know about the culture, so they would understand it a little better. But things have gotten out of control. A lot of people, not just kids, these days don't know a thing about the shoes and buy just to buy. I have no problem with those buying because they like them. But you got 50% of people buying them because everyone else is getting them (i.e. Concord release) and another 25% buying just to resell.
PRIME wrote:
I hope sneakers burn out. I'm tired of this hype and commercialized force feeding of the "sneakerhead/collector" mentality that the internet and media is encouraging.
It makes it harder to get sneakers and it takes a simple enjoyable hobby and turns it into a kids popularity contest.
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Agree. I blame Twitter, Tumblr, Wale, This whole "swag" snapback, bulls, %$#% movement, etc.
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Got kids posting pictures and saying "oh i paid 50$ for my vintage grizzlies snapback, gonna wear them with my white spacejams."
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But oh well, I save money every release I don't make, so i guess some good comes out of it.

When I found out recently that it was the cemenet 4's dropping this weekend, I won't lie, I got a bit giddy about em. I was asking people around if they knew about it...to my dismay, everyone did and everyone was gonna cop to re-sell. Still hopeful up until the night before, when I hopped on FB and saw how many people had to get the wrist bands and $@+% for the malls I said !!%% it. If I can't even sleep in on a weekend over a pair of shoes, then I guess I'm gonna stay $150 bux or so richer. Always wanted these as a kid, but I'm feeling more and more detached because of the direction it's all gone.
 
The Foams are the trojan horse.

Nikes been chomping at the bit to raise the average price of their signature kicks to $200.

With Foams flying off the shelves @ $220, they found their secret weapon.

Exceptional pricing will soon become the norm. They'll continue to gradually raise the retro prices just above inflation rated MSRP, ensuring a growing profit margin..and soon $200 for some retros will seem like a steal with all of these crazy aftermarket prices.

Oh, and don't let the JB hype die down....all they have to do is slap NIKE AIR on the back of some future retros and slide a pair to Kanye or Chris Brown....people will gladly sleep on the cold cement for days and fork over their rent money for multiple pairs.

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Madness.
 
Sneakers will be around forever. But there will be phases of what is hot. For example the sb and af1 craze. The only thing that will change for sure are the people buying them and their mentality.
 
Originally Posted by goldenchild9


The Foams are the trojan horse.

Nikes been chomping at the bit to raise the average price of their signature kicks to $200.

With Foams flying off the shelves @ $220, they found their secret weapon.

Exceptional pricing will soon become the norm. They'll continue to gradually raise the retro prices just above inflation rated MSRP, ensuring a growing profit margin..and soon $200 for some retros will seem like a steal with all of these crazy aftermarket prices.

Oh, and don't let the JB hype die down....all they have to do is slap NIKE AIR on the back of some future retros and slide a pair to Kanye or Chris Brown....people will gladly sleep on the cold cement for days and fork over their rent money for multiple pairs.

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Madness.
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Sad but true.. 
 
Originally Posted by PRIME

I hope sneakers burn out. I'm tired of this hype and commercialized force feeding of the "sneakerhead/collector" mentality that the internet and media is encouraging.


It makes it harder to get sneakers and it takes a simple enjoyable hobby and turns it into a kids popularity contest.
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*looks at all the hyped up shoes in your avy*
Oh, ok
 
I see these "high-end" premium sneakers eventually taking over the game. But Nike is killing it right now.

On the sidenote, some of you guys that claim you're "purist" know for a fact that you bought them in the 2000s for the attention, now that everyone is doing it you're crying foul. Give me a break.
 
We need a way to to take down nikestore twitter!
It was easier back then because everyone couldn't find the shoes on the site when they first dropped
 
Originally Posted by TheWindScar31

Sneakers will be around forever. But there will be phases of what is hot. For example the sb and af1 craze. The only thing that will change for sure are the people buying them and their mentality.
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Air forces are, and always will be nikes number 1 selling shoe. I am starting to go back to them, due to quality, and nostalgia. As far as Sb's go, they still have a quality release here and there, lets not compare those branches to jb, who sucks on all fronts.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by TheWindScar31

Sneakers will be around forever. But there will be phases of what is hot. For example the sb and af1 craze. The only thing that will change for sure are the people buying them and their mentality.
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Air forces are, and always will be nikes number 1 selling shoe. I am starting to go back to them, due to quality, and nostalgia. As far as Sb's go, they still have a quality release here and there, lets not compare those branches to jb, who sucks on all fronts.
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Homey has a point tho. Hype goes thru phases. Since I been here I cam remember
when SB's were all the rage, rock em now and no one really cares for them. AF1's had
a strong 2 yr run of straight hype, mad colors, materials, and ID's, now not too much
care for them. J's always been a staple but among certain people the hype fluctuates.
Now Nike is whoring Foams and people are fleeing. In a couple yrs people will be looking
back at their pair of star glittered sneakers and wonder y the hell they went thru what they
did to get them.

Theres very few people that stay true to the craft and cop what they want/like
and not care about hype or the type of shoe.

I blame the Concords for all this recent nonsense.
 
The prices for sbs, af1's and other shoes never really dropped tho

new sb's still sellout and fetch alot on ebay and older releases still hold crazy value

id af1's and other releases still sellout and still retain crazy value as well

it's just more variety now in which shoe people want but they're all NIKES at the end of the day
 
I'm surprised sneaker gangs don't exist... similar to how the Lo Lifes and Decepticons used to/still do with Polo.
 
Originally Posted by goldenchild9


The Foams are the trojan horse.

Nikes been chomping at the bit to raise the average price of their signature kicks to $200.

With Foams flying off the shelves @ $220, they found their secret weapon.

Exceptional pricing will soon become the norm. They'll continue to gradually raise the retro prices just above inflation rated MSRP, ensuring a growing profit margin..and soon $200 for some retros will seem like a steal with all of these crazy aftermarket prices.

Oh, and don't let the JB hype die down....all they have to do is slap NIKE AIR on the back of some future retros and slide a pair to Kanye or Chris Brown....people will gladly sleep on the cold cement for days and fork over their rent money for multiple pairs.

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Madness.
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fambs... this is a very accurate post...
 
why are people so quick to say the younger generation has no 'originality'?
you think that your generation is the first to have originality? you think your parents thought that our generation had originality?

you're just no longer a part of the younger generation and you don't understand their style. which is the point exactly. our parents wore tight clothes, we decided we didn't want to wear tight close and went baggy. you think they thought we had originality? the younger kids now see the older heads with baggy clothes, they're going the more skinny route. originality is relative.

one thing i notice...older sneakerheads were always wililng to buy old used sneakers because they were harder to find and they had a nostalgic connection to them. the younger generation are the ones spending the money now, and they have no nostalgic connection so they're buying what they think is hot. the market has changed..

is this a bubble? i think it's a foam bubble, for sure. jordan bubble for sure. the foam bubble is going to pop but nike bubble is not. they'll find something else to market in a couple of years.
 
best 2 posts of the thread on page 6!! From goldenchild and jtplatinum both sides of the spectrum and dead accurate. Stupid tpad won't let me quote grrrr
 
I'm done. F yeezys too. I'm disgusted with nike now. I still need my air max an such for the gym but I'm good, money saved, money better spent else where. Foams got ppl priorities all jacked up
 
Originally Posted by megatron

I always sort of wanted the whole sneaker thing to get more exposure and recognition among people, like my friends, that didn't really know about the culture, so they would understand it a little better. But things have gotten out of control. A lot of people, not just kids, these days don't know a thing about the shoes and buy just to buy. I have no problem with those buying because they like them. But you got 50% of people buying them because everyone else is getting them (i.e. Concord release) and another 25% buying just to resell.
Originally Posted by PRIME

I hope sneakers burn out. I'm tired of this hype and commercialized force feeding of the "sneakerhead/collector" mentality that the internet and media is encouraging.
It makes it harder to get sneakers and it takes a simple enjoyable hobby and turns it into a kids popularity contest.
Click to expand...

Agree. I blame Twitter, Tumblr, Wale, This whole "swag" snapback, bulls, %$#% movement, etc.
30t6p3b.gif
Got kids posting pictures and saying "oh i paid 50$ for my vintage grizzlies snapback, gonna wear them with my white spacejams."
indifferent.gif

But oh well, I save money every release I don't make, so i guess some good comes out of it.
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too tell you the truth the irony of it all is most of the social media sites etc ppl blame all get their info from here.... i mean nt has been in prominate mags... slamed put nt into slam magazine ... hell a few years ago espn even did a special on the culture and nt... i think there was even mentions on inside stuff like 6 or so yrs ago

trust for every 1 person thats a member its 100's maybe even 1000's of ppl who lurk on here just to get info and scoop. then they hit up other social sites and post pics info etc to other ppl i guess to seem like they got the scoop inside tip on everything.
 
The sneaker "bubble " has been predicted for years now as you can see by this post and they continue to get more popular and the industry continues to grow...
 
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