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Is this the "Bubble" of Nikes right now??
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I stopped buying the newer Jordans and Nike's for the most part because I like to look somewhat "exclusive"... PLUS I'm 25, What the hell do I look like rocking the same pair of Gym shoes that a bunch on 13-17-year-olds are wearing??? Don't get me wrong, I love the Concords...and some of the other older model Jordans and Nike's...But I'd never stand in a long %$! line to purchase them just so I can walk around with the same shoes that Thousands of others are going to be wearing...Not to mention the quality sucks. I used to cop every Air Jordan that came out in high school for stunting purposes... But then I grew out of that. I still respect the collectors, But thats just not my thing...I copped pairs EARLY to stunt... not collect.
I used to Love foams too....But now they're making like 6 colorways a year in mass quantities!!! smh... I hate that.
I respect wale's Shoe game because he gets his kicks 3-8 months in advance, so he aint gotta look like the "mirror image" of the next man... Plus every once in a while he pulls out some gems from back in the day that everyone forgot about.....
I used to Love foams too....But now they're making like 6 colorways a year in mass quantities!!! smh... I hate that.
I respect wale's Shoe game because he gets his kicks 3-8 months in advance, so he aint gotta look like the "mirror image" of the next man... Plus every once in a while he pulls out some gems from back in the day that everyone forgot about.....
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Brah, if you can show me where I'm being an elitist, feel free. I'll wait. I couldn't care less what the next man does or whether a 10-year old is wearing the same kicks as me. I like what I like. And I have no issue with more people buying Nikes--all I'm saying is that it sucks having to get lucky to get a pair of shoes online. And it does suck. Ask anyone who has wanted something but wasn't able to get it because it sold out. I really think you're going off on a tangent that OP wasn't even getting at, but that's par for the course....
As far as this bubble concept goes, I can't speak for OP, but I'm referring to the HYPE associated with these releases, NOT sales. Hype rises and hype falls....or you could say the "bubble bursts". Not that hard to understand, IMO. This has nothing to do with when the bubble bursts all of a sudden Jordan sales will cease to exist. Again, I'm referring to the HYPE surrounding these releases and how it seems to build steam with each subsequent release. Don't like the choice of the word "bubble"? Feel free to substitute it with whatever gets your rocks off, homie. But surely that critically thinking, science-geared brain of yours can grasp the basic concept. I'd offer some charts, memes and Youtube vids but I simply don't have the time.
From your rhetoric, you don't appear to be well-versed in sneakers which is totally fine and okay. But if you were, you'd know that the hype bubble DOES burst. I've been around this stuff long enough to have seen it with Dunk SBs. I've seen it with Air Force 1s. And then it moved to Air Max. And right now? Foams and Jordans. The high resale prices, long lines of campers and the almost unheard of demand all inevitably dwindle due to...drum roll.......LESS HYPE. People move on to the next "it" thing, making things go back to "normal" for those of us who plan to ride with what we know. Again, I can't speak for OP and his bubble concept. But that's mine.
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trife you obviously get it, thanks again
i dont even have to respond to that guy
Kay i feel you 100%, i skipped all the jays, even concords, all the packs. I dont even wear Js for fashion, i was gonna get the IVs for the gym thats all. I made this thread based off the internet last night an what ive noticed as of late. Connecticut never had lines at every store, jordans were easy to get weeks after even foams, an even talking to others off NT its agreed. It has never been this. Like Megatron said its money saved though, no big deal. With the hike and price and ppl willing to pay above retail like that wow. I cant even hate/nor do i hate on resellers like i said in another thread i think more than half these ppl are resellers now. I use to do it in College with dunk sbs so its w/e GR nikes and Jordans are wild now, internet crashing. Guess its the new 90s babies on the block us 80s babies are gettin to the 30 age soon
cement IVs go with like any kinda of sweats, joggin pants, hell its a more flat profile i can do leg days in em
, its not that serious nothin elite about it, just a discussion
but again even with other threads, stories of how grimey stores are, PARENTS claiming they are copping for their sons in line, managers, price hikes, its wild these days.
i saw this dude pissed off today cuz he had a ticket an when it was his turn they were like sorry, i guess an employee took that 9.5
btw, im typin this quick, sorry for grammar/sentence structure.
i dont even have to respond to that guy
Kay i feel you 100%, i skipped all the jays, even concords, all the packs. I dont even wear Js for fashion, i was gonna get the IVs for the gym thats all. I made this thread based off the internet last night an what ive noticed as of late. Connecticut never had lines at every store, jordans were easy to get weeks after even foams, an even talking to others off NT its agreed. It has never been this. Like Megatron said its money saved though, no big deal. With the hike and price and ppl willing to pay above retail like that wow. I cant even hate/nor do i hate on resellers like i said in another thread i think more than half these ppl are resellers now. I use to do it in College with dunk sbs so its w/e GR nikes and Jordans are wild now, internet crashing. Guess its the new 90s babies on the block us 80s babies are gettin to the 30 age soon
cement IVs go with like any kinda of sweats, joggin pants, hell its a more flat profile i can do leg days in em
but again even with other threads, stories of how grimey stores are, PARENTS claiming they are copping for their sons in line, managers, price hikes, its wild these days.
i saw this dude pissed off today cuz he had a ticket an when it was his turn they were like sorry, i guess an employee took that 9.5
btw, im typin this quick, sorry for grammar/sentence structure.
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Wow, you two?
Cant tell if l2l posted a pic or not..
pic of the bubble?
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lol mangudai
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its simple. i use to buy based on nostalgia. but now these products are barely anything i knew growing up. crap quality. jumpmans instead of nike air. variant fake mesh and crooked designs just like fakes. color switches, etc. it makes it even easier seeing a bunch of 14 year olds lining up to buy um. Lets me know these shoes arent made for me anymore. they are made for the sheep hypebeast and resellers to eat off of buy tricking these zombies
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I mean, I still buy the newer Hooping shoes to hoop and work out in... And I buy some of the retro Nikes from the 90's to wear casually or to lounge around in, but they have to be a shoe that really means alot to me... Like Griffey's or Foams... But I'd never stand in a long +%+ line or camp out for any shoe. When I buy Gym shoes now, it's spontaneous ...I'll happen to be in the mall and see a pair of retro Nike's that I like and say "damn, I remember those from when I was little but mom's wouldn't buy'em for me..." and I'll buy them... Back in high school I use to buy every pair of retros and current J's that came out...No matter if I liked the Colorway or not...Just to stunt on fools
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Brah, if you can show me where I'm being an elitist, feel free. I'll wait. I couldn't care less what the next man does or whether a 10-year old is wearing the same kicks as me. I like what I like. And I have no issue with more people buying Nikes--all I'm saying is that it sucks having to get lucky to get a pair of shoes online. And it does suck. Ask anyone who has wanted something but wasn't able to get it because it sold out. I really think you're going off on a tangent that OP wasn't even getting at, but that's par for the course....
This post: http://niketalk.yuku.com/...bble-of-Nikes-right-now-
superblyTRIFE wrote:
This dude silly.
Must everything be a debate? Honestly, it isn't even up for debate that this Jordan retro thing IS out of control and approaching a new level of hype. So yes, people on NIKETALK, a.k.a. "sneakerheads" are affected by it. Hence we discuss it.
While "sneakerheads" are a very small part of the shoe-buying public, we're on Niketalk dude. For the type of shoes that we on NT go for, you could very easily say that we're on a bubble. Stop acting like you can't put 2+2 together and get what OP was getting at. Unbelievable.
So it seems to me that honestly, you're mad because you feel like you're "entitled" to better selections of shoes.
I won't argue with you over shoe quality and customer service...but you just want more shoes for YOU.
Its only a bubble when YOU can't get what you want.
I'm aware of the fads and band wagons and and what not...I got into sneakers around 05-06 (rather late for many of you since it seems you all were born to do this) when the Dunks were huge, but that being said...even though demand for them has fallen off, how has that equated to a "bubble"...you might as well call it a fad, and you want your trend back.
Thats my point. You're seeing this as only YOU need it because all those other dudes are as real/versed/knowledgable/appreciative/etc of the things they want to spend their money on. But you? You're different some how.
Thats the thing that irks me about these types of discussions.
I'm cool with people saying yeah, I miss when there was only like 20 people who knew what Nikes even were...aside from saying, Man look at all these losers who don't even know what these shoes are about? This bubble is gonna crash man...I can't wait for us to regain our trend back!
Thats just pretentious IMO.
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Son....
Hilarious
But what trips me out is hearing what used to be the internet "shoe terminology" on the streets now... these shoe nicknames used here on NT used to get me funny looks back in the day
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This post: http://niketalk.yuku.com/...bble-of-Nikes-right-now-
superblyTRIFE wrote:
This dude silly.
Must everything be a debate? Honestly, it isn't even up for debate that this Jordan retro thing IS out of control and approaching a new level of hype. So yes, people on NIKETALK, a.k.a. "sneakerheads" are affected by it. Hence we discuss it.
While "sneakerheads" are a very small part of the shoe-buying public, we're on Niketalk dude. For the type of shoes that we on NT go for, you could very easily say that we're on a bubble. Stop acting like you can't put 2+2 together and get what OP was getting at. Unbelievable.
So it seems to me that honestly, you're mad because you feel like you're "entitled" to better selections of shoes.
I won't argue with you over shoe quality and customer service...but you just want more shoes for YOU.
Its only a bubble when YOU can't get what you want.
I'm aware of the fads and band wagons and and what not...I got into sneakers around 05-06 (rather late for many of you since it seems you all were born to do this) when the Dunks were huge, but that being said...even though demand for them has fallen off, how has that equated to a "bubble"...you might as well call it a fad, and you want your trend back.
Thats my point. You're seeing this as only YOU need it because all those other dudes are as real/versed/knowledgable/appreciative/etc of the things they want to spend their money on. But you? You're different some how.
Thats the thing that irks me about these types of discussions.
I'm cool with people saying yeah, I miss when there was only like 20 people who knew what Nikes even were...aside from saying, Man look at all these losers who don't even know what these shoes are about? This bubble is gonna crash man...I can't wait for us to regain our trend back!
Thats just pretentious IMO.
But if you were, you'd know that the hype bubble DOES burst. I've been around this stuff long enough to have seen it with Dunk SBs. I've seen it with Air Force 1s. And then it moved to Air Max. And right now? Foams and Jordans. The high resale prices, long lines of campers and the almost unheard of demand all inevitably dwindle due to...drum roll.......LESS HYPE. People move on to the next "it" thing, making things go back to "normal" for those of us who plan to ride with what we know. Again, I can't speak for OP and his bubble concept. But that's mine.
Hype? ...yeah I like that term...because it doesn't mean that the ENTIRE MARKET WILL CRASH.
What you're implying with Bubble is that an entire system will fall. Nike is still selling AF1s, Dunks, and Air Max's...they haven't been wiped from the market. Its supply and demand
Its the same with cycles of rap music or beats from popular producers. One day people stop calling...
A bubble just crashes under its own weight as a result of speculation...NOT because of cycles of consumer demand.
I really don't see how its the same thing.
IMO NinjaHood had the most reasonable comment here:
Dudes in here taking this way too seriously...Its simply supply and demand.
I don't see anyone in here adjusting for inflation of prices either. As far as I can tell I would venture to say that Nikes were literally more expensive a few years ago then than they are now. Very few shoes are hitting that psychological barrier of numbers that we have for ourselves that we could expect with market inflation. But that may be a different story and something I don't have the facts at my disposal to back up.
I was going to respond line for line like you do, but after reading your responses, I'll just say this. You've clearly missed the entire point and you're reaaaaaaaaaching with some of the stuff you're implying from my responses.
Good night, Optimus. Sweet Drizzy dreams tonite.
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kay's reason for buying jordans is da reason he burnt out fast....coppin kicks to just "stunt" is type shallow..yea we all guilty of it, but alot of us do cop cuz we
sports fans too..i for example cop for nostalgic reasons, and i like lookin fly. but if i liked being fly without really caring about sneakers it would be easy to
talk in a condescending manner towards people who choose jordans as a platform to express themselves, which is not really fair.
da young demographic though (90's babies) have no kinds of originality whatsoever, i agree with that..however retro anything just FLIES outta stores
compared to anything new from this generation, so its just good business for companies to keep catering to this.
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Who can you really blame for that though? I mean on one hand ya'll would be upset if they didn't "pay homage" but on another hand ya'll want to say that they're "biters without any style"
Besides Lebron and Kobe who are the stars that have the promotional engine behind them to move units like that these days in Nike specifically? ...and in sports that are so bent on marketing in terms of the more popular US sports. Baseball, Basketball, Football...
Who was the last Football player to get major shine with a shoe deal? Vick?
I mean besides random collabs or short product runs, there aren't many items with the legacy that JB brings to the table.
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that comments makes no sense whatsoever b.... imma 80's baby, NO ONE put a gun to my head to cop da converse weapons pay homage to
no moses malone, or anything else. back then you was on your own when it came to picking sneakers to express yourself if you wanted to do that at all.
...and da way sneakers were marketed in da 90's were VASTLY different then it is now, im sure people collected, but it wasn't no where NEAR da way it is now.
it was all about da latest and greatest back then...if you had on old jordans back then, you were clowned on...and NYC was so unique to everywhere else in da
US, because if u went to da west, cats were Vans from head to toe...now with da internet da kiddies got a "cheat sheet" on whats supposedly "hot" instead
of them defining it themselves, they letting others dictate it for em.
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Yes with people camping for GR'S SAD.
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Fair enough. Point taken.
So if I get this right, you would prefer that younger kids purchase whats currently available and being marketed to them... rather than to want retros or remakes?
I wish Nike would just stop having release dates and just send out the shoes randomly. I've also had enough of these "sneak peak" pictures all the blogs post. It's all part of they're marketing strategy, but I wish they would tone somehow it down because they have people sleeping at the store for no reason. Things just aren't the same these days and it makes it difficult on the people that were loyal to the brand before the ridiculousness began.
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i think this is an interesting topic and i've been watching the subsequent rise and fall and rise and fall of the shoe markets for probably about 10 years now...
this is absolutely a bubble and reminds me of the SB craze of the early/mid 2000's. these foam releases are out of control. people will get sick of them, though, it's just a matter of time.
people been fiendin for J's for the past 15 years almost - take a look at any major release of an OG colorway (or the cool grey xi's) and almost every single one created lines and havoc. ain't nothin new there.
one thing i do find interesting is that the younger heads have no interest in older releases, only stuff that's new. which, i guess, makes sense b/c nike isn't like they were 10 years ago and releasing one cool thing every 3-4 months they are completely flooding the market with new stuff once a month.
this is absolutely a bubble and reminds me of the SB craze of the early/mid 2000's. these foam releases are out of control. people will get sick of them, though, it's just a matter of time.
people been fiendin for J's for the past 15 years almost - take a look at any major release of an OG colorway (or the cool grey xi's) and almost every single one created lines and havoc. ain't nothin new there.
one thing i do find interesting is that the younger heads have no interest in older releases, only stuff that's new. which, i guess, makes sense b/c nike isn't like they were 10 years ago and releasing one cool thing every 3-4 months they are completely flooding the market with new stuff once a month.
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Well it's just Nike's persistent exploitation of the "sneakerhead" community, targeted especially here in the US.
"Here's this shoe....here's that shoe...here's this shoe...here's that shoe....and oh on top of it, don't be alarmed but we will be raising the price of our limited Jordans and Nike's as well. Thanks!"
Every other week, a new hyped up release comes out that people go crazy over. Next weeks foams will be a problem, and then the impending Yeezy 2's, and anything else limited with a flashy colorway or the term "Jordan retro" will be where the hype machine and it's beasts follow.
Nike exploits this "sneakerhead" culture every week...and every week in some thread, and some areas of the country, you have people complaining about missing out on a release. Yet the quality has dipped, the prices are high, and I'm sure most people's hard earned dollar outside of this reselling craze have pretty much remained the same.
Stupidity + Ignorance + Capitalism= the sneaker culture today
"Here's this shoe....here's that shoe...here's this shoe...here's that shoe....and oh on top of it, don't be alarmed but we will be raising the price of our limited Jordans and Nike's as well. Thanks!"
Every other week, a new hyped up release comes out that people go crazy over. Next weeks foams will be a problem, and then the impending Yeezy 2's, and anything else limited with a flashy colorway or the term "Jordan retro" will be where the hype machine and it's beasts follow.
Nike exploits this "sneakerhead" culture every week...and every week in some thread, and some areas of the country, you have people complaining about missing out on a release. Yet the quality has dipped, the prices are high, and I'm sure most people's hard earned dollar outside of this reselling craze have pretty much remained the same.
Stupidity + Ignorance + Capitalism= the sneaker culture today
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very informational video on nike boycott
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the bubble won't ever pop when hyperbeasts still roam the earth.
I just got wind of some galaxy foamposities coming out that people will need to camp out like 3-4 days for. Ridiculous.
I just got wind of some galaxy foamposities coming out that people will need to camp out like 3-4 days for. Ridiculous.
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They've been camping for those Galaxy Foams since Tuesday or Wednesday this past week at 34th Street HOH in Manhattan.
That is straight crazy though... but these Foams will carry the highest resale value of any other sneaker before... yes even more than the Air Yeezy 1's.
I saw in the Galaxy thread that everyone thought they were camping and waiting for the White Cement 4's, but it turned out that it was actually the Galaxy Foams.
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Speaking of which I just went into the official thread and check out this vid...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ext=G29ffafaFUAAAAAAAAAA
Wow... hey to each their own though!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...ext=G29ffafaFUAAAAAAAAAA
Wow... hey to each their own though!
