Would You Have Taken The Money Like Carlos Boozer?

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For the longest I thought that he was wrong for ditching Cleveland, but the more that I think about it ...
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I probably would have taken it.
 
Hell to the yes I would have taken the money, but I wouldn't have made that commitment to the Cavs first
 
If your choice is between living in Cleveland or Utah, I guess the determining factor would be the money. Neither of those places would be anywhere I'dwant to live.
 
Hell yeah, that blind guy would have jerked Boozer if he had torn an ACL. Get your money TODAY...always.
 
Would I have broken a promise I made to a blind man? Uhh . . NO. Boozer's not a very quality human being, but I wouldn't be either if I were p-whippedthe way he is with a wife that's far below NBA standards.
 
I feel like Boozer has blossomed into a better player because he left Cleveland...he's playing well with Deron Williams and with one more piece they wouldturn into a contender
 
to the dude that said he needs 1 more piece to be a contender, if he was still in cleveland now w lebron, Z, gibson, and a few others, do you think that rosterwould be a contender? bron on the outside w inside presence when he wants w booz cleanin the glass. that would be sick i think
 
People say one thing and change their mind to sign elsewhere all the time, Boozer never did anything wrong (people are just upset ie Cleveland fans b/c theylost a very good player).
 
What Boozer did though grimey was understandable. When he went to Utah he was hurt every season up until last season. If he stayed in Cleveland he would'vegone unsigned after his original deal was done because of the injuries and truth be told a team would be taking a huge risk if they signed him.
 
yes, cause if he got got a deal line up and suddenly got injured before inking the deal, they would have done the same.

didnt willie green tear up his knee before signing a contract?
 
Originally Posted by wildKYcat

Originally Posted by B1LLY HOYLE

HELL YES.

(just not the way he did...
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refresh my memory on what he did, please.

From Wikipedia:

After the 2003-04 NBA season, in which Boozer averaged 15.5 pointsand 11.4 rebounds per game, the Cavaliers had the option of allowing him to become a restricted free agent, or keeping him under contractfor one more year at a $695,000 salary. The Cavaliers claim to have reached an understanding with Boozer and his agent on a deal for approximately $39 millionover 6 years, which he would sign if they let him out of his current deal.

Once Cleveland eliminated the final year of Boozer's deal, making him a restricted free agent, his agent began to receive calls. He received an offerfrom the Utah Jazz.

The Jazz had participated in the free agent market in previous years and had failed in attempts to sign Corey Maggette, Jason Terry and Elton Brand. They were determined to be successfuland offered the most they could under the circumstances. Boozer signed their offer sheet, and Cleveland had the option to match, but were already over thesalary cap, and so could match only up to the Mid-level exception, thus they 'chose' not to re-sign him. Boozer joined the Utah Jazz in July 2004 for six years and a total of US$70 million. [1]

Boozer has denied that he made any commitment to the Cavaliers;
 
Originally Posted by wildKYcat

Originally Posted by B1LLY HOYLE

HELL YES.

(just not the way he did...
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refresh my memory on what he did, please.
[h2]Free agency controversy[/h2] [h3]Reported deal with Cleveland[/h3]After the 2003-04 NBA season, in which Boozer averaged 15.5 points and 11.4 rebounds per game, the Cavaliers had the option of allowing him to become a restricted free agent, or keeping him under contract for one more year at a $695,000 salary, which was clearly much lower than he would earn on the free agent market. If the Cavaliers chose that latter option, Boozer would have been able to enter the free agent market unrestricted after that one year expired. Boozer's high level of play meant that he very likely had in his future a substantial pay raise and the security of a long-term contract; the question, depending on what the Cavaliers chose to do, was just whether those benefits would come immediately, or after one more year.

Reportedly, the Cavaliers reached what they felt was a verbal "understanding" with Boozer. They would forgo their right to keep him for an extra year at relatively low pay, and instead allow him to become a restricted free agent. In exchange, he was expected to sign a long-term agreement with the Cavaliers, and not to sign an offer from any other team, despite the fact that he would certainly receive offers for more money than what Cleveland could afford in the new contract. The fact that Cleveland was over the salary cap meant that both sides understood the parameters of the new contract with Cleveland would be approximately $40 million over six years.

The deal appeared to be advantageous for both parties. Boozer would immediately get a substantial raise to over $6 million per year and the financial security of having a long-term guaranteed contract, versus playing the entire next season for only $695,000 and lacking any future security in the event of a career-threatening injury during that season. Meanwhile, Cleveland would assure itself of keeping his services for at least five more years under a deal which would be below market value and friendly to their salary cap considerations with respect to the remainder of their roster, rather than risk losing him on the free agent market after his original contract was completed the next season.

[h3]Offer from Utah[/h3]Once Boozer became a restricted free agent, he received an offer from the Utah Jazz. The Jazz had played the free agent market in previous years and had failed in attempts to sign Corey Maggette, Jason Terry, and Elton Brand. Thus they were determined to succeed with Boozer and they offered him the maximum contract allowable under the salary cap.

As predicted, the offer from the Jazz provided a salary that the Cavaliers could not afford to match. Additionally, a move to Utah would give Boozer the opportunity to be a more integral player on that team than he would be with the Cavaliers, whose top two players were already established as being LeBron James and Zydrunas Ilgauskas. With these factors in mind, Boozer chose to sign with the Jazz, and the Cavaliers were forced to let him go.

[h3]Agreement? Understanding? Commitment?[/h3]For his part, Boozer has acknowledged that his original intent with regard to free agency was to remain with the Cavaliers. But he has steadfastly denied that he made any explicit verbal promise to the team to do so:

<blockquote>''There was no commitment, it's unfortunate how it went through the media but I'm really excited to be in the situation I'm in. . . . It's against the rules, first of all, to have pre-arranged agreement. I'm not a guy that gives my word and then takes it away, I think I made that clear.''
:—Carlos Boozer</blockquote>

As Boozer's comment indicated, an explicit contract agreement would not be permissible under the NBA's collective bargaining rules, and would be punishible by the league if it were discovered. Despite this fact, it is still believed to be common practice among NBA teams and players to make such agreements secretly.

<p>The Cavaliers claimed that what occurred was legal because they had not reached an agreement on a contract, but rather had reached an "understanding" that each side would trust the other's intentions if Boozer were granted free agency. However, the team also claimed that each side knew what all of the parameters of such an understanding would be with regard to Boozer's next contract, when it would be signed, and what its terms would be. Therefore, this distinction between the claimed understanding and an illegal contract agreement would have been an extremely subtle one.</p>

The NBA has never issued a judgment with regard to whether such a distinction would in fact make the claimed understanding legal. However, past precedent would seem to cast doubt on the Cavaliers' claim in this regard. Alonzo Mourning of the Miami Heat was given a verbal agreement or understanding when he became a free agent in 1996, while the team pursued Juwan Howard, whom they signed. The Heat insisted that they had not agreed to terms with Mourning before signing Howard, but the league penalized the team by voiding Howard's contract. In 2000, the league also harshly punished the Minnesota Timberwolves over an illegal contract with Joe Smith. Using such cases as a guide, many observers doubt that an NBA investigation would have found the supposed understanding between Boozer and the Cavaliers to be legal.

Nonetheless, absent some sort of commitment from Boozer, there would seem to be no explanation for the Cavaliers' actions in allowing him restricted free agency in the first place. Furthermore, SFX Management, the agency which had been responsible for representing Boozer, immediately dropped him as a client and declined to accept the $2 million fee owed to the firm as a result of Boozer's contract with the Jazz. The firm did not publicly elaborate on its reasons for doing so, but to many, it seemed to be an indicator that SFX felt it needed to dissociate itself from Boozer's actions in order to protect its own reputation for trustworthiness. Such actions would not seem to be necessary if there never had been any commitment to the Cavaliers from Boozer. Consequently, Boozer's denials have done little to change the widespread perception that he did make some sort of commitment to the Cavaliers—even if it was illegal to have done so—and then failed to honor that commitment.

[h3]Reaction[/h3]The team's management blamed Boozer and indirectly, the Jazz organization, for what had happened. Insisting that their "understanding" with Boozer had been clearly discussed and understood by all parties involved—including mention of the fact that Boozer would be receiving more lucrative offers than the Cavaliers could match—the team claimed that Boozer had violated their trust. Team officials presented that as a primary cause of their being unable to shape the team into a legitimate contender during the off-season.
<blockquote>''In the final analysis, I decided to trust Carlos and show him the respect he asked for. He did not show that trust and respect in return.''
:—Gordon Gund, then principal owner of the Cavaliers, in a letter to Cleveland fans</blockquote>

As a result, Boozer suffered a spate of criticism and negative reaction in the sports media around the country. Cleveland's fans in particular reacted with shock and outrage over the loss of Boozer and he has become reviled among them for his perceived act of betrayal.

<P>However, Boozer does maintain supporters, as well. They note Boozer's adamant claim that he did not make a commitment to sign with the Cavaliers. They also note that even if there was a commitment, it was quite possibly illegal under NBA contract rules. Had the NBA investigated the situation and determined that there was an illegal agreement, the league might have voided any subsequent contract Boozer had signed with the Cavaliers, thus forcing Boozer to play the next season under his old contract—at low pay and with no long-term security.</P>

Finally, Boozer's supporters point out that there was a difference of nearly $30 million between the Cavaliers' offer to Boozer and the contract he signed with the Jazz, a substantial sum for Boozer to be expected to sacrifice. They argue that in professional sports, including in the NBA, teams often make verbal promises to athletes (e.g. the team will not trade the athlete) that are subsequently broken when the team deems it in its best interest to do so. Supporters of Boozer claim that he has received much more criticism for allegedly breaking a promise to a team than teams are subjected to when they break a promise to a player.
 
Cleveland shouldn't have been trying to the lowball him in the first place. Blind man or not the NBA is still a business first a foremost.
 
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