The State of the Shoe Game

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I've been collecting kicks since my first pair of Jordan's back in 1989, when my mom gave me $100 for school clothes and I used it to buy some white T's and a pair of Jordan III's (on clearance). I rocked them everyday like they were going out of style.  Every year since I have looked forward to each and every new release with excitement and anticipation. 
I experienced my first line-up in 1995, as a Champs employee, when I witnessed 50 people waiting for the Jordan XI release. The line started a couple of hours before the store opened and everyone received a pair. Times were simple and the culture was entrenched with respect and admiration for other sneaker collectors. 

The sneaker game began to change when eBay and the internet started to play a bigger role in the direction of the culture. By 2001 eBay was in full swing and selling fakes on eBay was big business. This really crippled the game for many sneakerheads, including myself, who were duped into buying fake Jordan from eBay sellers. EBay has since put into place some rules and guidelines to protect buyers from these counterfeiters, however, the site is still riddled with all kinds of fakes and counterfeits. Even with these crappy fakes out there the sneaker culture among collectors still had dignity. 
Now its safe to say that sneaker collecting is addicting. It embodies all the qualities of addiction and is problematic if not carefully monitored. As collectors, we can't wait for the next release and we're willing to do some crazy things to get them. What is sad, is there are some people out there who see this as an opportunity to exploit others for personal gain.

More recently (over the past 3 years) the culture has taken an ugly turn for the worst. What use to be a culture of comradery is now tainted with greedy, selfish people who are willing to exploit anyone for a few bucks. In particular, resellers have taken over and tainted the culture. Most of these resellers do not collect sneakers at all. Now, all of us have sold a shoe we copped, because we were unable to get our size or we decided we didn't like it. Thats an admirable sale, but the idea of buying multiple pairs to resell them to other sneakerheads for high marked-up prices is trashy and violates all of my personal morals. Anyone who rapes one of their fellow sneaker brethren with inflated pricing for personal gain is sorry! I equate them with a drug dealer who sells drugs to their own family and neighbors claiming their actions are a legitimate hustle. All I have to say is watch out for these people in any aspect of life because their morals are weak and they will easily stab their own mom in the back if they thought it would benefit them.

A couple of years ago I showed up 12 hrs before a release to cop a highly coveted shoe. I was lucky enough to get my pair, but some people didn't get theirs and their was havoc at the event. I had never experienced this kind of behavior at a sneaker release. Some people tried to strong arm a couple of yougins saying they had been there since the night before, but had taken off. None of us ever saw them and we were there the whole time expect for the occasional bathroom break. Today some people think they can leave a chair days before, go home, to come back to their spot in line. Even worse is the group of five people who think they can have one person hold spots for all five of them. Thats NO respect. Thats why people bring burners and shanks to these events and they end up in a wet T. Disrespectful people getting checked by folks who don't play or vice a versa.

There are still a few real collectors out there who appreciate the game and I have nothing but the most admiration and respect for you. Unfortunately, many are being forced out by Nike and Jordan's crappy marketing antics of Hype, Diminished Quality, Quick Strikes and limited releases, which has resulted in the creation of these morally corrupt resellers and hypebeasts. I blame these companies, however, we have also contributed to this by allowing it to happen. We need to realize that this is our culture and even though they produce the products we decide what we want, not them! These companies are not the creators of our culture, we are. 

I know most of this is my own personal rant from my recent experience with the past few releases, but I would like to take this to the next level. At this point in my life I'm still a sneaker collector as well as an anthropologist at a research one university. My next project focuses on American Modern Material Culture where I plan to examine our culture for all of the good and bad it has endured over the years. I hope to bring to the forefront the issues that plague and enrich the culture today and hopefully provide a new direction for the future of sneaker collection. 

I'd like to hear from the Niketalk community. What do you think about how the culture has changed and where you'd like to see it go.
 
I agree bro these lines before the hyped releases are bananas.. Alot of %%%*%@% goes on, if ur not in line than you have no spot imho.. These retail stores should be held responsible for these campouts that occur for these sneakers
 
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and people are just so ignorant and disrespectful, no respect for anyone but their-selves now days... i lost out concords because of this tom foolery.. was like 5th in line and then a bunch of dudes
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that showed up 30 minutes before the mall broke into the mall...
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you gotta respect the line and hey what you put into them is what you get.....

im fortunate enough to have known most the managers and workers at my spots for a long while...... but thats what it takes time and networking to get shoes today...... but everyone
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and their mom is a sneaker head right now trying to make a extra buck (not a true sneaker head aka shoe freak)... ...

... i remember the cement 3's last year didnt come off the shelves and they are more coveted than the chicago X's which sold out quick... my mind was blown when they sold out...... blame social networking, media, rappers making songs about sneakers, and celebs that teenagers look up to.....

i still havent had any trouble with releases that i want after the concords.. if you really want a hyped shoe now days you gotta camp and hope that stores hand out tickets from now on. its sad but you can either adapt and conquer or chalk it up to a waste of time... its a new day new technology.
 
I gotta tell you this was an awful read. "the game" ... "no respect for the culture"... "morally corrupt resellers"

Dog...get over yourself. We're talking about shoes. Sneakers. I have plenty too and i buy shoes but man, this sounds corny as hell. This whole kumbaya sneaker culture stuff is lame as hell.

News flash

There isnt a sneaker community. This is not a real culture. Hip hop is a culture and people buying shoes just jocked that. There are just a lot of people who like shoes. Very, very materialistic people. That doesnt not make it some symbiotic relationship. These riots prove it. You're jaded because you remember some good ol days that never really exisited. And you're just a consumer man. It is *no* deeperthan that.

Sad because "the game" changed. lol
 
^^^^dude is a dummy...the sneaker game has changed...#1.nike only wants to release highly limited quantity, #2. people are camping out for weeks for shoes, #3 these new generation ******s dont know +%*% abut shoes..like when concords dropped i heard a kid about 15 ask me if i was hear for the oreo space jam jordans...& for this galaxy release i heard a kid inline say"i cant wait to get these galaxy foam jordans"..i almost slapped them both.. #4.. all these HOH releases need to stop..they had like 30 HOH STORES FOR AN ENTIRE COUNTRY!!!! and on top of that once again LIMITED QUANTITY...and people getiing shot, stabbed and beat cuz they cant get them because nike sends 10 pairs off a shoe...dam resellers are making more of a profit on a shoe than the company that makes it...NIKE NEEDS TO STOP THERE B.S. AND STOP CREATING THIS LIMITED QUANTITY CRAP AND HAVE ENOUGH WHERE MORE PEOPLE CAN GET THESE SHOES, CUZ ALL ITS DOING IS CREATING VIOLENCE AND GETTING PEOPLE HURT OR PUT IN JAIL... GENERAL RELEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally Posted by bootleg ed

I gotta tell you this was an awful read. "the game" ... "no respect for the culture"... "morally corrupt resellers"

Dog...get over yourself. We're talking about shoes. Sneakers. I have plenty too and i buy shoes but man, this sounds corny as hell. This whole kumbaya sneaker culture stuff is lame as hell.

News flash

There isnt a sneaker community. This is not a real culture. Hip hop is a culture and people buying shoes just jocked that. There are just a lot of people who like shoes. Very, very materialistic people. That doesnt not make it some symbiotic relationship. These riots prove it. You're jaded because you remember some good ol days that never really exisited. And you're just a consumer man. It is *no* deeperthan that.

Sad because "the game" changed. lol
No Kumbaya ++*! here, just sick of disrespectful fools. It seems that others are tired of it too or people wouldn't be getting blasted at these releases. I'm just trying to find out what makes this ++*! work. 
I think its funny that someone can tell a group of people that they don't exist. Arrogant. However, there are a lot of people out there like that. For me, a community is group of people coming together for a common reason. They develop norms and endure change. My main reason is to cop the kicks I want to wear, but along the way my contact with people has a bigger meaning. Some are casual encounters while others turn into connects and friendships.
I guess I think like an archaeologist. If a major earthquake buried your trailer and 100 years later archaeologists were digging up the remains, what would they find? I'm not going to speculate bout the other crap, but they would probably find a ++*! load of shoes.  Then they'd find a similar ++*! load of shoes in the same time period, in different locations all over the map. We'd start to think, that dam this ++*! looks alike, maybe theirs a connection between these stock piles of shoes.
As a collector of many things, including antiquities, its my job to talk about it. Just because the main cultural events of the sneaker community take place on these blogs (between us right now) or during sneaker events and releases, dosen't mean its any less a community or part thereof. Even though I hate to admit it I probably share some other communities with you, for instance Hip Hop. From Sugar Hill to Wale there is definitely a connection between Hip Hop and sneaker collecting. Whether its a culture or sub-culture is yet to be proven but it is nonetheless a real.

In thinking of these connection we share I would ask how similar and different are our other life experiences? Do any of the identities formed by these experiences intersect with one another and what does that mean, how, and why... 

But thats what I get paid for.
 
The problem started when it became "the shoe game"

it also started when it became "collecting"

people buying shoes just to stare at them.

there is never a need to buy more than one pair of a colorway...

When the world goes back to treating shoe as they are........just shoes...

Then and only then will Jordan brand and the rest of the hypebeast and resellers stop stressing you.

Ive been buying Jordans and nikes since the mid 80's. im a grown man now and understand the value of a dollar.

so missing a shoe release is not that big of a deal anymore.

I use to own over 400 pairs of shoes. I am down to just over 100.

We only have but two feet and 365 days a year. Its not that serious
 
Originally Posted by NobleKane

The problem started when it became "the shoe game"

it also started when it became "collecting"

people buying shoes just to stare at them.

there is never a need to buy more than one pair of a colorway...

When the world goes back to treating shoe as they are........just shoes...

Then and only then will Jordan brand and the rest of the hypebeast and resellers stop stressing you.

Ive been buying Jordans and nikes since the mid 80's. im a grown man now and understand the value of a dollar.

so missing a shoe release is not that big of a deal anymore.

I use to own over 400 pairs of shoes. I am down to just over 100.

We only have but two feet and 365 days a year. Its not that serious
True. This is something I've come to realize these past few years... quality>quantity
 
@doak Limited release is far from new. In fact tier zero releases are more rare than 5 years ago, and stuff like true blue 3s got plenty of numbers, and sat on shelves. And that is a GOAT shoe. Lebrons are everywhere. Those "they need to retro this!!" shoes like the BO JACKSONS, barry sanders, and griffeys are SITTING in outlets. Air max 95s may as well never retro again. And theyve dropped more foams than EVER before. They used to be a reigonal relese only. And @doak why dont you tell nike they need to produce "more shoes". I imagine their response would be "we have tons of outlets overflowing with shoes, get over not being able to get this more-costly-for-us flash in the pan trendy shoe." concords werent even limited. There is no way they could have MET demand.

@i mrder peeps, Youre an archeologist. I'm a commercial banker. So, no, i dont get caught up in the emotional ties buyers of a commodity get. I only care about the shoe store owner and myself. And you should be more concerned about mom and pop stores (RIP GOODS) getting squashed by HOH. This "game" or "community" is no different than fans of Fendi or coach purses, or fans of harry potter movies and books. In fact its more like beanie babies in terms of cyclical hype. Again, get over yourself. There is nothing special about "us".
 
Originally Posted by NobleKane

The problem started when it became "the shoe game"

it also started when it became "collecting"

people buying shoes just to stare at them.

there is never a need to buy more than one pair of a colorway...

When the world goes back to treating shoe as they are........just shoes...

Then and only then will Jordan brand and the rest of the hypebeast and resellers stop stressing you.

Ive been buying Jordans and nikes since the mid 80's. im a grown man now and understand the value of a dollar.

so missing a shoe release is not that big of a deal anymore.

I use to own over 400 pairs of shoes. I am down to just over 100.

We only have but two feet and 365 days a year. Its not that serious
#QFT
IMO, it's okay if some cats want to collect every cw or just ice and stare at their pairs for eternity... I guess what happened is that the whole thing just went boom and everyone now wants to do the same thing. Like, in my area, to be called a "sneakerhead" you gotta have multiple cw's of a pair and you gotta have more than 20 pairs or you gotta have a pair to ice for each... things like that. If you fall in line for a release and don't have these pre requisites then you a faker. Silliest reason ever.

So I dunno if it's a game, community, hobby or what not... but like all fads, all of this would die down for some time eventually. And when it all does, it's gon' be back to square one and only those who really are into the whole gig would remain. Just my 2 cents
 
I think its a fad as well, and I hope something comes along soon for these trendy people to hop on.

Im an old head too so I remember the days of no fuss releases, copping a shoe you wanted days or weeks later with no problem.

I remember copping a pair of Columbia xi's from Jimmy jazz on sale, that'll never happen again.

Us older guys can't take it personal, some of us do and that's where the anger comes from.

Its nobodies fault why the game changed, like most things its a combination of reasons.

We can adapt or leave it to the youngsters.
 
Originally Posted by MJsaver

I think its a fad as well, and I hope something comes along soon for these trendy people to hop on.

Im an old head too so I remember the days of no fuss releases, copping a shoe you wanted days or weeks later with no problem.

I remember copping a pair of Columbia xi's from Jimmy jazz on sale, that'll never happen again.

Us older guys can't take it personal, some of us do and that's where the anger comes from.

Its nobodies fault why the game changed, like most things its a combination of reasons.

We can adapt or leave it to the youngsters.
Truth right there. Advancement in social media and the whole internet in general is prolly one of the biggest reasons for the sudden boom, imo.
 
I agree with the fad statement, but I'm not sure if it will change things once people decide to jump off the bandwagon. There are some releases where I see 100 people at a store that has less than 50 pair available. So say half the people stop coppin well there’s still enough demand for the shoes for Nike to not have to stop limited releases. It's obvious times have changed but I think it's something that everyone is just going to have to adapt to and accept. As far as the disrespectful ignorant people in every line, I agree it is BS. My solution, I found a connect so I didn't have to wait in line and I believe that's the only solution for sneakerheads in today’s time. There's always going to be ignorant people and from my years being alive I feel it's safe to say things will only get worse. Stop going against the grain. Go with it and find a new solution.
 
Probably more of a statement on the Internet generation than anything else. Unfortunately with the many advances personal technology has brought us, human interaction is an after thought and basic decency and respect are casualties of that
 
Originally Posted by dmxfury

Probably more of a statement on the Internet generation than anything else. Unfortunately with the many advances personal technology has brought us, human interaction is an after thought and basic decency and respect are casualties of that
Couldn't have said it better.
 
how many times can the same topic come up

your tired of the "shoe game"

stop buying shoes

its been like this for the past 7 years
 
Originally Posted by NobleKane

The problem started when it became "the shoe game"

it also started when it became "collecting"

people buying shoes just to stare at them.

there is never a need to buy more than one pair of a colorway...

When the world goes back to treating shoe as they are........just shoes...

Then and only then will Jordan brand and the rest of the hypebeast and resellers stop stressing you.

Ive been buying Jordans and nikes since the mid 80's. im a grown man now and understand the value of a dollar.

so missing a shoe release is not that big of a deal anymore.

I use to own over 400 pairs of shoes. I am down to just over 100.

We only have but two feet and 365 days a year. Its not that serious
Originally Posted by dmxfury

Probably more of a statement on the Internet generation than anything else. Unfortunately with the many advances personal technology has brought us, human interaction is an after thought and basic decency and respect are casualties of that
Originally Posted by 160jordansdeep

how many times can the same topic come up 

your tired of the "shoe game" 

stop buying shoes 

its been like this for the past 7 years
ALL. OF. THIS. 
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Originally Posted by I MRDR PEEPS 4 FUN



I experienced my first line-up in 1995, as a Champs employee, when I witnessed 50 people waiting for the Jordan XI release. The line started a couple of hours before the store opened and everyone received a pair. Times were simple and the culture was entrenched with respect and admiration for other sneaker collectors. 
must be nice.
 
It is amazing how materialistic 'we' (USA) have remained even with the recession. I thought that would change our values a bit but doesn't seem to have any effect. Just surprises me. Not saying that's a good or bad thing, but an observation
 
i remember the first time i saw a line up for shoes was at niketown nyc for the black/cement 3's back in 2001

i said to myself i'm not lining up for no damn sneakers

offered someone there $100.00 extra to buy his pair since he had 2 and said no

when to times square and got a pair with no line at athlete's foot

this was the first time i ever saw something line this
back then if you knew where to go you could find a store on release date with no one there (athlete's foot)
 
Originally Posted by 160jordansdeep

how many times can the same topic come up

your tired of the "shoe game"

stop buying shoes

its been like this for the past 7 years
Exactly!  
 
"I know most of this is my own personal rant from my recent experience with the past few releases, but I would like to take this to the next level. At this point in my life I'm still a sneaker collector as well as an anthropologist at a research one university. My next project focuses on American Modern Material Culture where I plan to examine our culture for all of the good and bad it has endured over the years. I hope to bring to the forefront the issues that plague our culture today and hopefully provide a new direction for the future of sneaker collection. "

Did no one read the last paragraph? The man's not here just to +%+%! and moan about not getting the latest release.

I've only genuinely been interested in purchasing sneakers for the last year or two so I don't feel nearly informed enough to comment on what things used to be like, but I can tell that even in the last few months this has become the new beanie baby craze. The national exposure that the hobby gets is the same type of stories that you would see about tickle me elmo or beanie babies or whatever other fad you want to bring up. It focuses on the vast majority, who are outsiders, bringing attention to a growing contingent of people that seem to be acting highly irrationally for what ultimately amounts to a luxury good. I've seen the phrase "easy cop" way too many times in the last month referring to dudes who just waited outside for 3 hours to spend money on a luxury that most of us agree has declining quality as well as a rising price. For 95% of people, that would be ridiculous. For us, it's normal. In a few months, it'll probably be back to the way it was before the concord release. Less news stories, our main complaint being quality and not exclusivity, and no more people trying to trade a car for a pair of sneakers.... well at least until the yeezy 2's.
 
I also wanna add its a bit more fun now that its gotten so crazy. I secretly kind of like the exposure. Not sure why. Its a 24/7 scavenger hunt.
 
Originally Posted by bootleg ed

@i mrder peeps, Youre an archeologist. I'm a commercial banker. So, no, i dont get caught up in the emotional ties buyers of a commodity get. I only care about the shoe store owner and myself. And you should be more concerned about mom and pop stores (RIP GOODS) getting squashed by HOH. This "game" or "community" is no different than fans of Fendi or coach purses, or fans of harry potter movies and books. In fact its more like beanie babies in terms of cyclical hype. Again, get over yourself. There is nothing special about "us".
Ed dropping knowledge.

Truth is, once people start taking pride in self-identifying their group. The internet didn't ruin the "sneaker game" any more than it ruined graffiti. Both were ruined by people with low self-esteem seeking fame for exposing a subculture to the masses - the internet just made it easier for that to happen and accelerated the process. But, it all starts when you label yourself.

http://metaphorical.wordp...aker-collecting-is-dead/
 
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