(Spoilers) ASOIAF Books Discussion (All Books Read Edition) (Spoilers)

she has already gotten to Jon and still told stannis what she did..

I dont think shes using him just that's what she truly believes. as i said a couple of post ago.

3 things she believes in
Azor Ahai,
PwwP
Rhollor.

I think she may think of him as pwwp

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MAY THINK ?

@Tdogg, please.

"Stannis Baratheon is Azor Ahai reborn!"
- Meli, Davos III, ASOS

"Westeros must unite beneath her one true king, the prince that was promised, Lord of Dragonstone and chosen of R'hllor"
- Meli, in Davos IV, ASOS

When Maester Aemon asks Meli where's the prince that was promised ?
Meli response is "He [Stannis] stands before you,"...Azor Ahai come again".
- Samwell V, ASOS

But here's the plot twist...

"I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow."
- Melisandre I, ADwD



A bit of foreshadowing from the series maybe.
 
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@pittman. Took you awhile to gather all that up just to try and prove me wrong. Congrats on the extensive research. But......
I dont see why you point this out to me....because I said she believes in stannis...thats what you just proved for me.
Are you thinking now Jon is the one because thats what she saw in her fires was Jon???? I never said her stuff couldn't change. When you think about its already been said a lot of stannis power has been extinguished thus the need of more power resources.
She could very well be saying this because she needs to sacrifice jon.. we dont know. Jon obviously has power. Shes also never met any starks aside from him. Who obviously have magical power.
Theres a lot of scenarios
But what we know now without predictions and maybes is that stannis is HER azor reborn.


On top of its left to interpretation. Its not proven she meant Jon Snow
Heck it could mean ramsay snow.(doubtful). for all we know. Or just the snows stannis is currently stuck in.

These could also be two different scenes. The first instance is Jon Snow, the second is just normal white sbow. If she were talking to jon. She wouldnt say I see snow referring to him. She would say i see you...

In jons pov. "And what of mance? Is he lost aswell, what do yoyr fire shows?" (Mel) " the same I fear. Only snow"

There's a theory out that that the others are screwing with her magic and thats why she is only seeing Snow.
 
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So one of my friends took a class on the books and show this semester. The professor stated that Loras wasn't confirmed to be gay in the books and gave them proof on why he isn't. Me an my friend have been arguing about this since then.

What do you guys think?

Seriously? :lol: It's like the worst kept secret in Westeros. It is never explicitly stated but there are a million references to it. I don't see how this is even a question.
 
Out of deaths. Incest, flayings. Child molestation and deaths.
Why would grrm be afraid to me tion flat out they had sex and are gay?
He isn't afraid. Like I said, not everything needs to be spelled out, plus the clues he gives makes it pretty obvious. 
 
He isn't afraid. Like I said, not everything needs to be spelled out, plus the clues he gives makes it pretty obvious. 

this is more of me playing advocate for them.I feel like it can go both ways (no pun intended)
Loras has more evidence against him than Renly. they just said Renly was more interested in dressing fly and doing stuff like that.

but they said the same thing about Rhaegar before he read that book that changed his tone.
 
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Episode leaked.

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Got the Jon thing spoiled. :smh:
 
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Change the order of your post so the first thing seen isnt episode leaked. Which will start a storm in the show thread.

With that said. I got a busy day sunday so goahead and PM that ep
 
If those leaked finale pics are real, how will next season go?

GRRM hasn't even released the next book. Is he basically telling the showrunners how the whole story is going to end?
 
Yea if i cant watch now then i dont want to be spoiled this week. 2 more days. Lets just hold conversation about til Sunday.


We can go back to how stannis is the one true king
 
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So uh.....

looks like we're getting spoiled about what happens (certain character related)



with Benjen


The last time on GoT video below confirms it....





going to be NUTS tomorrow
 
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im about to go ghost til 10

should be interesting.

the show thread about to blow about 5 pages in 10 mins
 
We can go back to how stannis is the one true king

Rather believe that Ice Dragon malarky than ever think Stannis, the puppet, is the one true king.

Technically Jon is the true king.

Mad King > Rhaegar > Jon

But I digress.

See everyone @ 10 tonight.
 
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My girl Mel is back at the wall :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

no "Ghost" :smh:

Overall really well done. Stannis getting got by Brienne? What part of the game is that?

Theon's storyline being a joke this year :smh:

The tears from the non book readers man :lol:
 
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Why didn't they show his eyes turn white like the pic that leaked?
 
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